I've had it with Millcreek

[50strat54]

Originally Posted by Abdrewes

Am I still in a thread about disc-damaging packaging?

Kind of it's also a thread about why people hate Mill Creek or like myself trying to defend it a little bit

[Abdrewes]

Originally Posted by 50strat54

Kind of it's also a thread about why people hate Mill Creek or like myself trying to defend it a little bit

Most definitely. I was just trying to say boutique labels have their packaging snafus too.

[Zillamon51]

I have never received a scratched disc in a factory-sealed package, unless it was a floater (disc off the hub and rattling around inside the case). Anytime I buy a disc in store, I check by shaking the case. If I get a floater in the mail, it goes right back unopened.

All this UHD talk is irrelevant, as Mill Creek really isn't in that market.

[Zillamon51]

Another pet peeve with Mill Creek: Releasing new movies on DVD only. It's mostly no-name, low budget stuff anyway, but almost every ad I see on FB for a new movie from MC is a DVD.

[jstxanothrxstory]

Originally Posted by Zillamon51

Another pet peeve with Mill Creek: Releasing new movies on DVD only. It's mostly no-name, low budget stuff anyway, but almost every ad I see on FB for a new movie from MC is a DVD.

Or, similarly, when a show that was filmed and broadcast in HD is only given a DVD release, like they did with Franklin & Bash.

[50strat54]

Originally Posted by jstxanothrxstory

Or, similarly, when a show that was filmed and broadcast in HD is only given a DVD release, like they did with Franklin & Bash.

Like a lot of TV shows that start releasing DVD after some initial Blu-ray releases.

I’m wondering if everything was set to go with manufacturing a DVD set it was cancelled but a notice was sent out to the boutique companies that a DVD of Franklin and Bash could be licensed and Mill Creek said yes.

[jstxanothrxstory]

Originally Posted by 50strat54

I’m wondering if everything was set to go with manufacturing a DVD set it was cancelled but a notice was sent out to the boutique companies that a DVD of Franklin and Bash could be licensed and Mill Creek said yes.

I think Mill Creek probably just obtained the rights in a bulk purchase given the drastic differences between MC's first and second season discs compared to their existing stand-alone discs.

[50strat54]

Originally Posted by Zillamon51

All this UHD talk is irrelevant, as Mill Creek really isn't in that market.

You’re right I thought I’d just throw in this 4K OT in to see if anybody wanted to weigh in.

[joonskeezle]

Originally Posted by Zillamon51

I have never received a scratched disc in a factory-sealed package, unless it was a floater (disc off the hub and rattling around inside the case).

Then you need to buy more lottery tickets because this kind of luck is outrageous.

[Zillamon51]

Originally Posted by joonskeezle

Then you need to buy more lottery tickets because this kind of luck is outrageous.

And I think some folks should stop playing floor hockey with their discs.

[joonskeezle]

Originally Posted by Zillamon51

And I think some folks should stop playing floor hockey with their discs.

Reply makes no sense.

We're not talking about what happens to the discs after we've opened them.

You said you've never bought a new factory-sealed movie and wound up with an already-scratched disc, which is either a bald-faced lie or you have frankly impossible luck.

I was being generous by suggesting the latter. I actually believe the former. It's just weird that someone would come on the internet and lie about something so inconsequential just to have something to argue about.

[wonkavision]

Well, Mill Creek put out The 10th Kingdom, so they really can't be that bad.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by Zillamon51

And I think some folks should stop playing floor hockey with their discs.

I treat my discs with absolute care. They come straight out of the sealed case and under a light to check for damage, and there are often long scratches or areas of scuffing. Stop being condescending to people who actually notice that discs these days often arrive scratched.

[jkoffman]

Originally Posted by Zillamon51

All this UHD talk is irrelevant, as Mill Creek really isn't in that market.

The OP was complaining about Mill Creek's Parks & Rec release, but they aren't the company that released it, so I'm not sure what's irrelevant here at this point.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by Zillamon51

I have never received a scratched disc in a factory-sealed package, unless it was a floater (disc off the hub and rattling around inside the case). Anytime I buy a disc in store, I check by shaking the case. If I get a floater in the mail, it goes right back unopened.

All this UHD talk is irrelevant, as Mill Creek really isn't in that market.

I find this pretty much impossible to believe. I can't count the number of scratched discs I receive from all vendors and studios. Box sets, individual releases, stacked, non-stacked, sleeves, blu-ray, UHD, CDs, DVDs. Doesn't matter. Stacking increases the chances of damage without question, but I get tons of them even on individual hubs. If you aren't seeing scratches, you aren't looking. Or you're lying.

[jkoffman]

Originally Posted by mar3o

I find this pretty much impossible to believe. I can't count the number of scratched discs I receive from all vendors and studios. Box sets, individual releases, stacked, non-stacked, sleeves, blu-ray, UHD, CDs, DVDs. Doesn't matter. Stacking increases the chances of damage without question, but I get tons of them even on individual hubs. If you aren't seeing scratches, you aren't looking. Or you're lying.

I received 2 completely scratched brand new BDs just last week that were damaged due to stacking.

[RillIris]

Originally Posted by jkoffman

I received 2 completely scratched brand new BDs just last week that were damaged due to stacking.

Something interesting I don’t know if allot of people realize, disc generally show up from the replicators stacked before they are even packaged. This is why the bad circular scratches on disc are actually nearly as common on disc from regular cases as from ones where they are stacked. Especially the bottom disc from a large stack on a spindle are more likely to get scratched prior to packaging due to the weight of the other disc on top of it. My most recent scratched disc had numerous circular scratches where it was obvious the disc was severely rubbing against something, but was in a standard Blu-ray case, and it definitely wasn’t rubbing against the plastic inside the case itself. Unfortunately disc just do come direct from the factories already damaged, just like how it’s been discovered allot of SteelBook releases have spine slashes sealed under the shrink wrap, as it’s not the store that actually did it.

[joonskeezle]

Originally Posted by RillIris

Something interesting I don’t know if allot of people realize, disc generally show up from the replicators stacked before they are even packaged. This is why the bad circular scratches on disc are actually nearly as common on disc from regular cases as from ones where they are stacked. Especially the bottom disc from a large stack on a spindle are more likely to get scratched prior to packaging due to the weight of the other disc on top of it. My most recent scratched disc had numerous circular scratches where it was obvious the disc was severely rubbing against something, but was in a standard Blu-ray case, and it definitely wasn’t rubbing against the plastic inside the case itself. Unfortunately disc just do come direct from the factories already damaged, just like how it’s been discovered allot of SteelBook releases have spine slashes sealed under the shrink wrap, as it’s not the store that actually did it.

They absolutely are not.

I have almost never seen a concentric scratch on a disc that wasn't stacked in the case. And I'm conceding "almost" because I genuinely don't recall EVER seeing it happen.

Furthermore, in the stacked collections where there are concentric scratches, I've never seen the bottom disc have such scratches. In the P&R set and the Community set, it was only the discs resting on top of other discs that had those scratches.

Not saying it's impossible for non-stacked discs to have those scratches. I'm saying that stacking discs dramatically and demonstrably increases the likelihood of those scratches.

[RillIris]

Originally Posted by mar3o

I find this pretty much impossible to believe. I can't count the number of scratched discs I receive from all vendors and studios. Box sets, individual releases, stacked, non-stacked, sleeves, blu-ray, UHD, CDs, DVDs. Doesn't matter. Stacking increases the chances of damage without question, but I get tons of them even on individual hubs. If you aren't seeing scratches, you aren't looking. Or you're lying.

Yeah knock on wood I’ve basically only had bad issues with DVD’s being scratched up when stacked, which isn’t surprising given it’s softer plastic on plastic. I do get the occasional scratched up Blu-ray, but I wouldn’t say I’ve had notably more issues with stacked disc than ones coming off a clean hub. Actually probably see more issues with the 2 partially overlapping disc SteelBook releases than anything else, usually from the top disc getting pressed into the hub of the lower disc in shipping. I had to exchange a couple of Mill Creek’s Ultraman SteelBook’s due to damage to the case itself, not a single scratched disc though. The Universal The Mummy Ultimate Collection SteelBook which also stacked disc though, my first copy of it all but the DVD was pretty badly scratched up, a prong on one hub also was broken off and literally was imbedded into the top of one disc. That was definitely an extreme rarity for me though as usually I find issue with one maybe two disc, not literally everything in a set.