Star Trek The Motion Picture Director's Edition 4K UHD/DLX (1979)

[KMFDMvsEnya]

It is not the exact same frame.

Just excited that even with this non-direct image it has superior detail to the TC 4k version.

[KMFDMvsEnya]

https://imgur.com/a/T53EcIU

[WorkShed]

The new composite has so much more detail than the existing release. It's stunning.

[Jeyl]

Originally Posted by WorkShed

The new composite has so much more detail than the existing release. It's stunning.

The bottom registration is no longer washed out by the light and the sun isn't a simple white circle. This is going to be nice.

[batman2000]

Originally Posted by KMFDMvsEnya

https://imgur.com/a/T53EcIU

I hope this isn’t representative of the hdr color timing.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Jeyl

The bottom registration is no longer washed out by the light and the sun isn't a simple white circle. This is going to be nice.

The sun is way more blown out yet the highlights on the ship are better resolved. Interesting mix.

Originally Posted by batman2000

I hope this isn’t representative of the hdr color timing.

So it begins…

[Filmmaker]

Originally Posted by Jeyl

the sun isn't a simple white circle. This is going to be nice.

See, overall, I like the look of things, but I don’t care for this change. The sun looks totally blown out now. And from that distance, the sun should appear as a “simple white circle”. I’m sure there will be exponentially more positives than negatives with this restoration, but tweaks like that make me wince a bit.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Filmmaker

See, overall, I like the look of things, but I don’t care for this change. The sun looks totally blown out now. And from that distance, the sun should appear as a “simple white circle”. I’m sure there will be exponentially more positives than negatives with this restoration, but tweaks like that make me wince a bit.

Hopefully it's just blown out like that because it's in SDR.

[Deciazulado]

Maybe the sun HDR green to yellow to cyan highlights got blown and only magenta remain.




If the Enterprise is neutralished, the sun goes reddish magenta vv. So then maybe some ACC made the published 3K pic ^^ greenish?

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note: neutralished jpg is very compressed (80kb) so banding

[KMFDMvsEnya]

Considering we have no idea how and when the two images were captured it seems prudent not to get overly concerned just yet. As mentioned prior the grading of the DE is different from the color timing of the TC and since we do not how whether these SDR images are from a properly graded SDR transfer it may not be representative the final product.

I certainly hope they finesse some of the new digital additions such as the shuttle craft docked with the station where there should be mask covering added to a small back portion of the the crafts docking ring.

Another early shot of the Enterprise approaching the inner chamber of V'ger to dock definitely has different look than I would expect but hope that is just preliminary work.

Also hope that one picture of the HDR grading shots of V'ger going critical does not just clip out the restored highlights in the TC 4K version.

[batman2000]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

So it begins…

Why because I point out that if it looks like this it looks way too yellow.

[Jeyl]

Originally Posted by Filmmaker

And from that distance, the sun should appear as a “simple white circle”.

Except when it's not.

[Filmmaker]

Originally Posted by Jeyl

Except when it's not.

Diffusion from the light passing through the asteroid belt.

[Jeyl]

One hope that I have with this new edition is fixing the aft torpedo launch from the Klingon Battle Crusier. I've been told the reason this torpedo shot looks bad was because the plates that made up the toredo effect were misaligned.

[WJWS Channel 13:Amity]

Originally Posted by batman2000

Why because I point out that if it looks like this it looks way too yellow.

i feel like your just waiting to find any tiny little thing to nitpick about.

[Jeyl]

Originally Posted by Bolty

Yep, that shot was always weak it was a long time before I actually realized did they fired two Torpedoes from the aft tube. I've seen fan made CGI where was much clearer and I hope they're able to fix it for this release

I remember discovering that second torpedo when I was doing 'frame by frame' examinations of the film when it was on Laserdisc. And I've seen a ton of fan recreations of that opening shot and always a kick when I see how they recreated that second torpedo as well.

Oh, and incase anyone hasn't seen this, there was an unearched visual effect demo reel made by Apogee that was put on YouTube on the on News Year's Eve in 2018 (BEST NEW YEARS EVER!).

Discovering this video was like discovering the Holy Grail. Raw open matte effects shots where some effects don't have all the elements. But the biggest WOW factor? All three Klingon Cruisers firing torpedoes into the cloud! And we even see first Klingon cruiser get hit with the Plasma Bolt when it's destruction was done offscreen.

I also really like that shot of V'Ger's home planet sunrise without the Spock or ring elements. Would LOVE to see that shot in HD.

Special Effects Demo Reel for Star Trek The Motion Picture - YouTube

And here is JTVFX's video of the Klingon Battle where he tries to incorporate these lost shots. I like how his take conveys the idea that two of the Klingon Cruisers retreat while the third one chooses to keep firing torpedoes at the Cloud, hence why it's still facing in the cloud's direction when the Plasma bolt hits it.

Star Trek The Motion Picture Klingon Battle (REWORKED) - YouTube

[starmike]

Originally Posted by batman2000

I hope this isn’t representative of the hdr color timing.

The first thing I noticed when I looked at the new pic was that it had a yellow tinge to it, but we'll have to see it in action.

My concern is that the detail makes it look more like a model and it might break the immersion. We'll see.

[Jeyl]

Originally Posted by Bolty

I think this go round the director's Edition team had a lot more time to search for lost elements and if it comes down to things they wanted to include in 2001 but couldn't find I have no doubt that they will include those in. It always bothered me slightly that they only showed two of the three Klingon ships being destroyed.

I could tell early on that even the Director's Edition was on a pretty tight budget during the Kolinahr. They wanted to reshuffle the subtitles to make it less obvious the actors were speaking english. They managed to get the raw footage to put in new subtitles, but they could not clean the footage up which is why it looks so scratchy and dirty compared to other scenes in the film. (On that note, wouldn't it be funny if they used the theatrical takes to redo the scene for the Director's Edition since those shots haven't been used since the laser disc?)

If nothing else, I hope that with all the new material the team has discovered that they'll include it in either a newly repuroposed 'deleted scenes' section or a montage of the film's effects in open matte just like the Apogee video from earlier. That would be such a nice sit through.

[doubleofive]

Originally Posted by Jeyl

(On that note, wouldn't it be funny if they used the theatrical takes to redo the scene for the Director's Edition since those shots haven't been used since the laser disc?)

They've actually been seen a few times since the Laserdisc!



Both the original early 00's master and the streaming version of the 09 master use the theatrical takes of Spock on Vulcan, the 09 streaming version being a scan of the film with the burned-in subtitles. But the "HDTV" has it's own subtitles, so the clean plates have to be out there somewhere! Let's hope they found it!

If nothing else, I hope that with all the new material the team has discovered that they'll include it in either a newly repuroposed 'deleted scenes' section or a montage of the film's effects in open matte just like the Apogee video from earlier. That would be such a nice sit through.

Yes, this is my dream.

[batman2000]

Originally Posted by starmike

The first thing I noticed when I looked at the new pic was that it had a yellow tinge to it, but we'll have to see it in action.

My concern is that the detail makes it look more like a model and it might break the immersion. We'll see.

The only thing that bugs me is the yellow , green or yellow green tinge.