Unpopular Movie Opinions: Part III

[stvn1974]

Howard The Duck > The Dark Knight

Howard The Duck > The Dark Knight Rises

Howard The Duck > The Last Jedi

Howard The Duck > The Rise Of Skywalker

[Patricier21]

Originally Posted by Rzzzz

If you are talking about the recent comic book movies being spewed out in the theaters, then I agree with you...

No, not even those pretty much all of which I actually like/love :-) I’m talking more movies of which are partially because I just don’t like the property in general, but seriously I never really understood why the following are as popular as they are and or I think maybe for their time they were good but nowadays They are really dated and are only substantial because of technical innovations and or because they were the first of their kind to do certain things when they doesn’t necessarily mean that they are the best/hold up really well:

The Empire strikes back [seriously, I don’t understand why people love this one so much especially considering the critics actually originally did not like it when it first came out; what changed? I don’t even like Star Wars or any of Lucasfilm Outside of its technical innovations with ILM and the fact that it gave birth my favorite/the best movie studio of all time Pixar, But with literally all of the other Star Wars movies there’s actually something that I kind of like about each of them but this one I pretty much hate everything about it. It’s boring, Even kind of feels a bit Filler ISH, it has some very questionable to say the least things about it: I mean, Poor little R2-D2 falls into a swamp bag where he could’ve drowned or could’ve gotten damage/destroyed by some kind of alien creature on the planet that he and Luke are not familiar with and yet Luke shows no sympathy or care for him acting completely soulless and Not caring towards him trying to get out when he was very emotional and happy to see him surviving the battle of Yavin in the previous movie. The whole vision Concept in the series is very weird and not very well explained especially in the literal sense shopping off Darth Vader’s head in a cave just looks really weird and also has Literally no reason of being in the movie when it’s already been clearly established that he hast to go up against And defeat Darth Vader, so it’s just weird pointless filler. Also Lando Is a very badly explained character for how he just betrays them let alone one of his oldest friends and they are just OK with it afterwards etc. George Lucas himself And other people have also said that Empire strikes back at least prior to the Disney made movies is the worst one out of all of them]

Aliens and terminator 2 judgement day [Both of them are just very forgettable and also boring, and again what’s so great about them? As someone else is also pointed out online, you can literally write the whole plot of both movies pretty much on the back of a postage stamp. They both feel so mediocre at Very best And just don’t really have anything that’s that compelling Or again, memorable]

Spider-Man 2[I love Spider-Man, he’s my favourite superhero but by golly this is one of the most overrated movies ever made. It’s a clear example the people are focussing more on the story and not on the actual movie when they are indeed two different things. The way the movie portrays the story and its overall moral is very basic and typical and doesn’t really have you feel compelled at the end only feeling average and again typical At the very best. I mean a lot of the things that Peter goes through in the movie even though it is of course part of the story and trying to be realistic it’s just painful and depressing to watch or just things That you just don’t really want to see; I mean he keeps reaching out for things and keeps on losing/missing them, everyone’s always so mean spirited towards him barely giving him any Bit of sympathy, even with all the valid points and reasons towards doing so, again it’s just not very compelling let alone enjoyable to watch. The storytelling in the game not to mention the overall chemistry and acting is way better]

Frozen II [ now, I literally love everything else Frozen, but again by golly how is it even possible for them to have screwed this up so badly? It’s the same directors as the first one not to mention writers who also worked on frozen fever and you caught the songs for pretty much the rest of the franchise, so how long is it possible that we got the horribly confusing mess that we got ? I literally have a headache just trying to comprehend how it makes any sense at all especially with how Iduna Is in the glacier and how it Works etc. especially when they literally didn’t even know how that section of the story/movie let alone the whole thing overall was gonna work out. Not to mention why is Anna overly freaking out so much over Elsa and her being safe when she throws the freaking entire kingdom for crying out loud?! I think she’s more than capable of taking care of/Protecting herself and them from any/most plausible threats EH?]

Winnie the spoof/2011 Winnie the Pooh [now this is honestly not only probably the/At the very least one of the most absolute worst Disney let alone any movie sequels ever made, but also quite honestly the most pointless movie ever made.It literally adds on nothing to the franchise or its characters and has no real compelling reason for us to be Going back and visiting them, only merely being mean with a nostalgia for its most compelling reason which literally all of its praise has given squarely for that and yet other more recent movies that have been coming out and dominating or even not always gets criticized for that exact reason. But above all they completely ruined pretty much all the characters so much so that it actually hurts to acknowledge; Roo: “Send the pig“ WTH!!!!!!!! Come on, he would never say that!!!! And he’s my favourite character of the whole series, what on earth were they thinking?!!!!!!! Kanga: “how about a really big hug?!“ WTH!!!!!! How on earth did this make it to the final cut of the movie? How on earth can this be in the movie combined with how they portrayed owl and rabbit [let alone the painfully Aforementioned Roo!!!!!!] And people not realize that this is a spoof/parity of the series? Not to mention that as great as a songwriter is Kristen Anderson Lopez is she along with the recasting of owl and rabbit is just plain wrong for the role. And piglet, come on you’re not that stupid!!!!!!! [Re- The rope scene]. They literally only made this movie to commit suicide overdoing 2D animation for whatever reason. Disney direct to video movies while they are not without their faults at the very least for the most part did not completely ruin or destroy anything from the original movies and or anything related to the company/brand in the greater scheme of things, was there only been a very small handful of them that are actually not that good, the rest been at least decent to some like the second lion king and the third and even second in my opinion Cinderella‘s been better than the originals. This and the second frozen were definitely way way more damaging in those regards then close to all of these

[Patricier21]

Also, as I posted on a similar topic thread On this site,

Originally Posted by UniSol GR77

Logan. It ruined the positive ending of "Days of Future Past". If they are placed in the same continuity...

Hallelujah! :-) Finally someone else who actually realizes that Logan actually sucks especially for those two reasons that you’ve said :-) not to mention what they did to Charles; I mean they made him swear like a truck driver and even call a fellow mutant “an effing albino“ when that mutant could’ve easily betrayed them and turn them over to the government instead of helping them out of the steadfast goodness of his heart. Does that sound like Charles Xavier to you?

It’s even worse than what they did to Deadpool in wolverine origins and Yet you don’t see/hear one single person complain about it at all. Needless to say they took it way too far and the only reason why they had him act like this is because they had/could do an R rating And we’re like “screw it it’s rated R!” When they truly did not have to go this far and still could’ve had [An even more substantially better] emotional integrity without the need for him to be acting so out of character, Even with the condition that they had him being in the movie.

And with that, as my friend has also pointed out and going back to your initial point, As he literally put it “this is what happens to the X-Men?” Let alone the fact that it literally Slashes days of future past in the face like you said, we don’t even get to actually see it on the screen when they supposedly were going to include it in a flashback during Charles‘s seizure in the hotel, which they still truly could’ve done and still had the movie feel like a standalone wolverine movie, which nonetheless also truly needed it for this is truly The end [chronologically] for the franchise and as Simon Kinberg, who is still a producer on the movie, And who is the one who actually confirmed that this movie is indeed set in the revised timeline after days future past with X-Men Apocalypse’s post credit scene literally setting up this movie, has stated, wolverine is the protagonist of the franchise, so that truly means that he is connected to the whole franchise as a whole not to mention that if indeed it is in the same timeline like it has been confirmed be, Then why on earth as “the end of wolverine‘s story” would it be in an alternate reality?

How on earth can the movie Receive, let alone truly deserve, the praise that it gets with all of this?

[Jay H.]

Too many words.

[RossyG]

Originally Posted by stvn1974

Howard The Duck > The Dark Knight

Howard The Duck > The Dark Knight Rises

Howard The Duck > The Last Jedi

Howard The Duck > The Rise Of Skywalker

Only the top one is unpopular.

[BluBonnet]

Originally Posted by stvn1974

Howard The Duck > The Dark Knight

Howard The Duck > The Dark Knight Rises

Howard The Duck > The Last Jedi

Howard The Duck > The Rise Of Skywalker

No lies detected

[DR Herbert West]

Speed 2 > Under Siege

[BluBonnet]

Any non-Steven Segal movie > Any Steven Segal movie

[Warm Gun]

Originally Posted by BluBonnet

Any non-Steven Segal movie > Any Steven Segal movie

I've never watched one. Always seemed pretty lame when I saw him on TV. Liked Will Sasso's impressions when I was a kid.

more mad tv steven sagal - YouTube

Mad TV - Steven Seagal - YouTube

[Mikezilla3k]

Originally Posted by DR Herbert West

Speed 2 > Under Siege

Wiliam Dafoe and the boat crash at the end really did save Speed 2 from mediocrity.

[Jay H.]

Originally Posted by Mikezilla3k

Wiliam Dafoe and the boat crash at the end really did save Speed 2 from mediocrity.

Do you mean the boat crash where every single building/house it runs into is completely empty? That's epic.

[BluBonnet]

Originally Posted by Jay H.

Do you mean the boat crash where every single building/house it runs into is completely empty? That's epic.

You wanted people to get hurt!?!

[Gizz]

Originally Posted by DR Herbert West

Speed 2 > Under Siege

I will agree with that but it's because I can't stand Under Siege at all. While Speed 2 is ok.

[CreasyBear]

Under Siege 2 > Under Siege

[spider-neil]

Originally Posted by Dunemoon

The Matrix Resurrections > The Batman

Not questioning your personal opinion but do you mind going into detail why?

[spider-neil]

All three Thor movies aren't what I want a Thor movie. The closest in tone to what I want was Thor: The Dark World but that movie sucked. Ragnorock is unquestionably the best Thor movie but it not the tone I want. I want a Thor movie that captures the essence of the Walt Simonson's run which is IMHO the definitive take of Thor. I think the Netflix Ragnorock series is the closest tone to what I want.

[Twinrehz]

Originally Posted by fighthefutureofhd

Ok. Here is my list:

1.Star Wars Collection - The Empire Strikes Back
2. The Perks of Being a Wallflower
3. Tron
4. The Black Cauldron
5. X-Men Collection - X2: X-Men United
6. The X-Files: Fight the Future
7. Spider-Man Collection: Spider-Man 2
8. The Lord of the Rings
9. The Matrix Collection
10 Speed 2: Cruise Control/Fantasia 2000
11.Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
12. Batman
13. Elizabethtown
14. Back to the Future
15. Mission Impossible
16. Superman: The Movie
17. Rear Window
18. Philadelphia
19. Pump Up The Volume
20. Fantasia/Titan A.E.

[Show spoiler]Mind you, some of those films hold a special place in my heart and that's why they place high on my list. I still think all these films are excellent. So, it's not a knock when I said what I did above. I would still love these films no matter, but those special circumstances helps their placings. In all those cases, they involve my fiancé who passed away. Doesn't take away how good these films are to me. I just think others might place higher if it weren't for those circumstances.

Also collections are grouped together cause otherwise a whole series of films would take up the top 20. And I have a tie becuae of those circumstances I mentioned. I just couldn't leave one of those out of the top ten. As for the other tie, I really had a hard time with that. However that one movie (Titan A.E.) profoundly affected me in such a way that with resonates with me today. It's one of my top 10 movie moments of all time and that day has affected me like no other almost. There are other movies I left off with that special connection simply because i can't have those that high. I tried to be very objective with my list, but those circumstances and memories attached to those movies have had the biggest and profoundest affect on me. They are 1/2 of what shaped who I am today. Without those I wouldn't be half the person I am.

I realize it's a very populated list in that it's mostly Hollywood multiplex movies. However, a lot of them didn't connect with multiplex moviegoers. Also, another point to making the list and what all these movies share in common is they have a melody. In other words, there is something that compells you and gets you "in the door", so to speak. If any of that makes any sense. I know this is a long post and I thank you for reading it.

I would say that's not a very weird or unusual list, as far as I can tell. I can agree to a lot of them being solid, entertaining movies; LotR is one of my favourite franchises as well (so much so that I don't mind The Hobbit, in fact I like it); Matrix absolutely, great fun and at least somewhat thought-provoking; Black Cauldron I haven't seen, but I've heard that there's a scene from that movie that got cut because it was deemed "too scary" by Disney execs, so the movie was utterly crippled because that scene was fairly vital for the movie's cohesion.

Since your list isn't just a selection of oddball-movies, there isn't much to argue about. I would dispute putting Mission: Impossible or Back to the future there, but that's because of my own personal taste :P Plenty of movies I haven't seen too, though, like Perks of being a wallflower.

EDIT: Thanks for letting me peek inside your head for a bit, I think it's interesting to see other people's experiences

[RossyG]

The Tom Cruise version of the Mummy rips off the “talking dead mate” idea wholesale from An American Werewolf, which was unforgivable, but otherwise it’s a pretty good supernatural action film.

And I wish they’d done the remake of Creature From the Black Lagoon in 3D with Scarlet Johansson as another Dark Universe film (as rumoured).

And no, The Shape of Water isn’t a substitute for that; it’s a just a creepy little fish-**** fantasy.

[moreorless]

Originally Posted by Warm Gun

Darkman is an original movie not based on any comic. It's still considered a superhero movie. Do RoboCop's abilities and heroism not make him a superhero?

Not sure those along would make that strong a case for a superhero film unless you simply view it as any story there the hero has abilties obviously beyond the normal.

That said I think the way the story is told does feel quite comic bookish, it does have an obviously elevated reality it to along those lines and I spose the idea of the hero being "masked" with a secret ideality plays that up too.

You could argue I spose that is was also drawing on the kind of grimdark superhero comics that were appearing in the 80's as well, one of the first examples to that style onscreen.

[BluBonnet]

Originally Posted by moreorless

Not sure those along would make that strong a case for a superhero film unless you simply view it as any story there the hero has abilties obviously beyond the normal.

That said I think the way the story is told does feel quite comic bookish, it does have an obviously elevated reality it to along those lines and I spose the idea of the hero being "masked" with a secret ideality plays that up too.

You could argue I spose that is was also drawing on the kind of grimdark superhero comics that were appearing in the 80's as well, one of the first examples to that style onscreen.

Robocop is first and foremost cynical social commentary, laced with some good black humor. It is clear Verhoeven was more interested in commenting about what America felt like in the 80s to the rest of the world.