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Old 05-07-2022, 01:07 AM   #161
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First episode was pretty good, definitely had some nice old Trek vibes to it instead of new Trek. Looking forward to the rest of the season.

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Spock is so dedicated to Starfleet he skips getting it on with his new fiancee. No wonder she dumps him during TOS

Have to admit, I was excited about "Lt. Kirk" but didn't think they would have the guts to bring us Kirk. And then they just bring us a Kirk, lol.

Pike rolls the second civil war, the Eugenics war, and WW3 all into one conflict, so maybe that's just a giant handwave to try and reconcile the time period.

Presumably they are much more advanced in TNG since Crusher pretty much does some handwaving to disguise people in TNG, as opposed to changing their genomes with painful shots.
Kirk's not coming on until season 2, played by Paul Wesley. I was getting confused because they kept talking about Kirk so I was like wait, that's not supposed to happen yet lol
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I refuse to watch any of the Star Trek streaming shows until they start playing Beastie Boys in them.
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[Show spoiler]Kirk, is it a relative or just someone who happened to have the same surname?
[Show spoiler]George Samuel Kirk Jr. is not a new character. He made a single appearance in TOS as a dead body (expertly played by William Shatner with a mustache). There is a slight change with him now though because while he was mentioned a few times in various Trek media, it had been alleged that Kirk was the only one who called him Sam.
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I don't want him in the series at all, but oh well.
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Old 05-08-2022, 11:43 AM   #166
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Can’t wait for Sam to scream La’aaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.
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Old 05-10-2022, 11:54 PM   #167
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I thought the first episode was fun. It felt adventurous and harkened back to the format of TOS. Also, Anson Mount is really charismatic and will absolutely carry the show.

Looking forward to seeing where this goes.
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Old 05-11-2022, 06:14 AM   #168
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Priceless.

I loved the first episode. There was very little, if anything really, that didn’t work for me.

Really enjoyed the story, really like the cast. Early days, but this could be great.
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Old 05-12-2022, 01:17 PM   #169
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Can’t wait for Sam to scream La’aaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.
I had the same thought.

I'm not up on old Trek lore. Is she Khan's daughter, sister, mother, what?
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Old 05-12-2022, 02:01 PM   #170
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I had the same thought.

I'm not up on old Trek lore. Is she Khan's daughter, sister, mother, what?
If there is a connection, she would only be a distant descendant. At this point, he has been asleep in the Botany Bay since 1996.
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Superb second episode too. I love the fun this is having, and discovering the musical language was particularly enjoyable. Uhura came into her own here, and the new engineer (who I mistook for Andorian at first) seems cool. Pike's hair is something to behold at the moment.

I really liked the look of the Shepherd alien race, and I felt that he looked kind of familiar. Eventually it clicked that the design reminded me of Space Precinct!



The moment at the start where the camera flew through the comet's tail was obviously a little nod to DS9's intro. But I SWEAR I heard the music play the first few notes of the DS9 opening fanfare too, just really subtly before stepping away from it. Was I just imagining things?

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I had the same thought.

I'm not up on old Trek lore. Is she Khan's daughter, sister, mother, what?
Sister's daughter's mother's second cousin's college roomate's best friend's brother's sister's daughter.

In reality, we have no idea what her relation is to Khan at this point, but we do know - because it's been implied in screen scripts and stated in pre-show interviews - that she IS genetically and socially related to Khan and does have some sort of Augment heritage, which is going to be revealed in later episodes. Most likely, she is a distant relation to Khan, through his "recreational activities" and the Augment DNA is so diluted through generations of inter-breeding with regular human stock that it would not have been red-flagged in a genetic scan. As this obviously pre-dates Space Seed by several years, there is no genetic reference for Khan's DNA in Starfleet archives and we do know that other colonization sleeper ships were launched from Earth, into the galactic void, so there's plenty of wiggle-room for her to exist free of the well-established Khantinuity of Star Trek.
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Old 05-13-2022, 12:00 PM   #173
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The actress playing Uhura seems out of place, just does not have the look or the gravitas of the Bridge crew in Starfleet. This cadet beat 7 thousand of other applicants? This 'character' is just Uhura in name only and has none of the personality of the original and is easily the weakest of the crew. I hope future episodes don't have her front and center like this week.

Everyone else seems to be clicking in. but for the love of God, someone PLEASE FIX SPOCKS HAIR CUT, it's so bad it's distracting!
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PLEASE FIX SPOCKS HAIR CUT, it's so bad it's distracting!
It's more the sideburns for me....they look like a river map.
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The actress playing Uhura seems out of place, just does not have the look or the gravitas of the Bridge crew in Starfleet. This cadet beat 7 thousand of other applicants? This 'character' is just Uhura in name only and has none of the personality of the original and is easily the weakest of the crew. I hope future episodes don't have her front and center like this week.
WTF u talkin' about Willis? Uhura is such a thinly drawn character in TOS that MLK had to convince Nichols to keep the role. Because she was ready to quit being just window dressing on the bridge. This was a character that Nomad could wipe her brain and be none the worse off for it. It wasn't until The Search For Spock that she had anything important to do, and even then she got shuttled off to Vulcan while the guys were saving Spock. So we're talking 25 year old Uhura, not 50 year old Uhura.
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Old 05-13-2022, 10:35 PM   #176
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There's also a large difference between being confident in one's abilities and confident in a real time deadline situation when needed to apply that ability. (Real world example: everyone who makes it onto Jeopardy! are very smart, but not everyone does well in the real-time pressure of the game). Uhura as depicted so far in SNW is wholly confident in her great language skills, but using them in a timed life-or-death scenario gave her pause. Now that she succeeded quite admirably that should help her confidence in similar immediate situations going forward.

Series is 2-for-2 so far. Let's keep this ball rolling.
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WTF u talkin' about Willis? Uhura is such a thinly drawn character in TOS that MLK had to convince Nichols to keep the role. Because she was ready to quit being just window dressing on the bridge. This was a character that Nomad could wipe her brain and be none the worse off for it. It wasn't until The Search For Spock that she had anything important to do, and even then she got shuttled off to Vulcan while the guys were saving Spock. So we're talking 25 year old Uhura, not 50 year old Uhura.
Yep....I didn't have an issue with this new Uhura....she has already had more constructive screen time than in the original series. Unless you add up all the "Hailing frequencies open, Captain" shots together...which is just about all she did before.

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Holy shit, now THIS is Star Trek!!

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Yep....I didn't have an issue with this new Uhura....she has already had more constructive screen time than in the original series. Unless you add up all the "Hailing frequencies open, Captain" shots together...which is just about all she did before.
Or the "Captain, I'm frightened!"

Reminds me how some fans melted down that Zoe Saldana's Uhura had a relationship with Spock in the Kelvin films, saying her flirtation in the early episodes of TOS wasn't enough to base/start a relationship on. I absolutely adored Zoe in the role and had no problem with it. I'm looking forward to see how Celia's role expands her backstory in SNW.

EDIT: Not to mention this was a character that didn't have a canon first name until ST 2009!

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Another great episode. While I do like that the other Trek shows focusing on singular arc, I do like them getting back to their roots with just being an adventure show exploring the universe and meeting new species while learning more about themselves.
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