StudioCanal Cult Classics (Extreme Prejudice, High Crime, More)

[LAPrice]

Originally Posted by fatboyslim142

The running time of the film submitted to the BBFC is 93 mins so I think it is the Shorter US export version & NOT the original Italian version.

I have the FilmArt disc and the quality shifts slightly for the last reel of the film. They must’ve used the StudioCanal print, and Frankenstein’d the finale in from another slightly inferior print.
The StudioCanal French Blu ray is missing the entire climax of the film, so unless the UK distributors restore it from a different print (like FilmArt have done) then it’s a completely pointless exercise.

[Levon]

Haven't seen Kill Them All and Comeback Alone, so definitely in for that. If the film isn't that great, It'll be worth it alone for the Alex Cox audio commentary.

[Takuma]

Originally Posted by LAPrice

I have the FilmArt disc and the quality shifts slightly for the last reel of the film. They must’ve used the StudioCanal print, and Frankenstein’d the finale in from another slightly inferior print.
The StudioCanal French Blu ray is missing the entire climax of the film, so unless the UK distributors restore it from a different print (like FilmArt have done) then it’s a completely pointless exercise.

I've understood the main version (99 min?) comes with ENG / GER / IT audio options, but I was wondering in what language is the alternative 103 min version, which is included as an extra?

[Joppers]

Originally Posted by Takuma

I've understood the main version (99 min?) comes with ENG / GER / IT audio options, but I was wondering in what language is the alternative 103 min version, which is included as an extra?

Both versions on the FilmArt disc have English/German/Italian audio and German subtitles (no English subtitles unfortunately).

My Sony player says they're both 103min in length. I think the only difference is a small section at the very end which is available separately on the extras menu.

[Anthony Thorne]

Kill Them All and Come Back Alone is good fun and a well regarded spaghetti, most people like it. Here's Scherp's review from the SWDB -

https://www.spaghetti-western.net/in...Scherpschutter)

And a fun trailer with lots of stuff blowing up.

Kill Them All and Come Back Alone (1968) Trailer - YouTube

I have a copy hanging around of it that looks gorgeous, so the Blu with good extras will be a lovely release. Disappointing about High Crime being cut but I'm feeling positive about Studio Canal bring out more cool titles in this line.

[finishominis]

I hope they release Homebodies as part of this line

[LeDroitDeTuer]

Originally Posted by LAPrice

I have the FilmArt disc and the quality shifts slightly for the last reel of the film. They must’ve used the StudioCanal print, and Frankenstein’d the finale in from another slightly inferior print.
The StudioCanal French Blu ray is missing the entire climax of the film, so unless the UK distributors restore it from a different print (like FilmArt have done) then it’s a completely pointless exercise.

Having just watched the FilmArt disc, I don't understand how the movie is even supposed to work without the last 10 minutes.

[Show spoiler]It would just leave everything unresolved.

[Aclea]

Originally Posted by LeDroitDeTuer

Having just watched the FilmArt disc, I don't understand how the movie is even supposed to work without the last 10 minutes.

[Show spoiler]It would just leave everything unresolved.

Looker is a classic example of that: they cut out the entire sequence (included as an extra on the blu) that explains the reason for the apparently motiveless murders that drive the plot.

[Dvd Aficionado]

Originally Posted by LeDroitDeTuer

Having just watched the FilmArt disc, I don't understand how the movie is even supposed to work without the last 10 minutes.

[Show spoiler] It would just leave everything unresolved.

That's what I'm curious about. The shorter cut most likely has an abrupt and downbeat ending

[Show spoiler] - Nero's character was shot and killed after his daughter was murdered by the mob.

Many of these Italian films were released as a double bill in the UK and US theaters: Almost Human, Death Rage, Rome Armed to the Teeth, to name a few. Hence - the edit.

[Takuma]

Originally Posted by Joppers

Both versions on the FilmArt disc have English/German/Italian audio and German subtitles (no English subtitles unfortunately).

My Sony player says they're both 103min in length. I think the only difference is a small section at the very end which is available separately on the extras menu.

Thanks for the info. Much appreciated.

Originally Posted by Dvd Aficionado

That's what I'm curious about. The shorter cut most likely has an abrupt and downbeat ending

[Show spoiler] - Nero's character was shot and killed after his daughter was murdered by the mob.

Many of these Italian films were released as a double bill in the UK and US theaters: Almost Human, Death Rage, Rome Armed to the Teeth, to name a few. Hence - the edit.

So what endings do the two versions on the German release have?

I saw this film in 35mm (with Castellari sitting almost next to me) about 12 years ago. I don't know which version it was, and I don't remember much about the film but I absolutely loved the abrupt ending where

[Show spoiler]Franco gets shot, has a flashback of his life, and that's it. I later found a version in youtube and watched only the ending, and was greatly disappointed it had a happy ending where Franco snapped out of his flashback and wasn't dead.

So I'd really like to have a version with that abrupt ending. Is that on the German release? And how about the Studio Canal release? How does that version end?

[Dvd Aficionado]

So what endings do the two versions on the German release have?

I saw this film in 35mm (with Castellari sitting almost next to me) about 12 years ago. I don't know which version it was, and I don't remember much about the film but I absolutely loved the abrupt ending where

[Show spoiler]Franco gets shot, has a flashback of his life, and that's it. I later found a version in youtube and watched only the ending, and was greatly disappointed it had a happy ending where Franco snapped out of his flashback and wasn't dead.

So I'd really like to have a version with that abrupt ending. Is that on the German release?

The German release has the 103' Italian cut as the main feature. I'm not sure which ending the alternate German cut has, but it's also 103' long based on ofdb.de.

And how about the Studio Canal release? How does that version end?

[Show spoiler]With approximately 10 minutes edited out, my guess is that the Studio Canal release has the downbeat ending, which reminds me of La polizia ringrazia (1972).

Having watched the 103' Italian cut, I feel I'm going to like the 93' cut with a totally different ending.

[supertwix_64]

Originally Posted by Takuma

And how about the Studio Canal release? How does that version end?

According to IMDB:

[Show spoiler]A recent French Blu Ray release of the film is missing the final 5 minutes of movie (including the murder of Cafiero and the entire shootout on the docks. It cuts right after Paul Costello's character says "to the port!" to the shot of Nero standing by the ocean and the ending credits.

[tangerinewolf]

I wonder if StudioCanal will use this line to release some of the Hammer films they missed during their string of releases in the 2010's, such as The Nanny and The Anniversary both starring Bette Davis? Assuming they still have these.

[CouncilSpectre]

Originally Posted by tangerinewolf

I wonder if StudioCanal will use this line to release some of the Hammer films they missed during their string of releases in the 2010's, such as The Nanny and The Anniversary both starring Bette Davis? Assuming they still have these.

They still have THE NANNY so I'd imagine they have them both.

[LeDroitDeTuer]

Originally Posted by Takuma

So what endings do the two versions on the German release have?

I had to check, since I've only seen the version that it defaults to. Good news, it has both of the versions that you described.

[Show spoiler]Default version: shootout on the port, Franco is thinking of his daughter, gunshot rings out and it seems like he's shot, he has flashbacks as he realizes who really was behind it all, but he snaps out of it and he's still alive.

Alternate end: same thing including the shootout, gunshot / flashback sequence, but he's dead and you get an abrupt "THE END" title card.

My guess is that the StudioCanal version is missing the whole shootout part, which is still a big portion of the movie and needed even if you have the downbeat ending.

[LAPrice]

Originally Posted by LeDroitDeTuer

Having just watched the FilmArt disc, I don't understand how the movie is even supposed to work without the last 10 minutes.

[Show spoiler]It would just leave everything unresolved.

I read a few reactions to this disc - (which is missing the final shootout), and despite the print being in good shape, the film just stops dead with no climax. This was released by Studio Canal in France, and they haven't recalled it or anything. This makes me think that the UK one will be the same.
Really can't see them going to the trouble of adding the missing footage in from another print etc.

[LeDroitDeTuer]

Yeah, the FilmArt version is the one to get until someone reissues it with English subtitles for the Italian audio (and maybe even upgraded print quality for the shootout portion / last reel if they find better elements). As far as English dubs go, this one is actually pretty solid to the point where I'm convinced that most of the main cast did speak English while filming.

[Takuma]

Originally Posted by LeDroitDeTuer

I had to check, since I've only seen the version that it defaults to. Good news, it has both of the versions that you described.

[Show spoiler]Default version: shootout on the port, Franco is thinking of his daughter, gunshot rings out and it seems like he's shot, he has flashbacks as he realizes who really was behind it all, but he snaps out of it and he's still alive.

Alternate end: same thing including the shootout, gunshot / flashback sequence, but he's dead and you get an abrupt "THE END" title card.

My guess is that the StudioCanal version is missing the whole shootout part, which is still a big portion of the movie and needed even if you have the downbeat ending.

Thank you! That's exactly what I needed to hear!

[Stegman]

Originally Posted by KootiePie

Nope. Just the cut on the French disc so 99.9% chances it'll be the same for the UK. Here's the BDInfo of the French:

DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     HIGH CRIME
Disc Size:      33,173,072,735 bytes
Protection:     AACS
Extras:         50Hz Content
BDInfo:         0.7.5.9 (compatible layout created by DVDFab 12.0.1.8)

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00008.MPLS  
Length:                 1:33:15.083 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   26,663,608,320 bytes
Total Bitrate:          38.12 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                          Bitrate             Description    
-----                          -------             -----------    
MPEG-4 AVC Video               34999 kbps          1080p / 24 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                          Language             Bitrate             Description    
-----                          --------             -------             -----------    
DTS-HD Master Audio            English              1294 kbps           2.0 / 48 kHz / 1294 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit)

SUBTITLES:

Codec                          Language             Bitrate             Description    
-----                          --------             -------             -----------    
Presentation Graphics          French               25.657 kbps

At least the bitrate is max'd out. But it's definitely a no-buy for me. Sad for a new label to start out like this. There's no excuse of missing/poor materials given that the Germans got the full cut. Time to hunt down the German disc then. I hate this

I see blu-ray.com write 99 minutes on blu-ray, maybe the uncut and longer than the 93 minutes here. Hope it!!!

[rapta]

Originally Posted by Stegman

I see blu-ray.com write 99 minutes on blu-ray, maybe the uncut and longer than the 93 minutes here. Hope it!!!

Nope, I made the listing and that was just the runtime from the database for the film. The Amazon listing says it’s 93 minutes, so I tried to change the BR.com listing but it hasn’t been updated yet.