Rded's Rig

[rded]

Originally Posted by naturephoto1

Wait till I finally get these 5 speakers and my home and home theater. Dave is going to make a half tower (16 drivers) for my center channel.

Rich

Dang dude! That's gonna be a sight for sore eyes and I can only imagine how its gonna sound!

[rded]

I'm getting ready to pul the trigger on acoustic treatments from www.atsacoustic.com. I thinking 2 pieces of 24x24" at the side walls near the LF speaker and 2 pc 24x24" behind the daybed. My ceilings are really high at 12 ft.So would you recommend diffusers or just acoustic pannels? BTW atsacoustic doesnt sell diffusers so where do you guys recommend I get them at a reasonable price? Thanks!

[crazyBLUE]

Originally Posted by rded

I'm getting ready to pul the trigger on acoustic treatments from www.atsacoustic.com. I thinking 2 pieces of 24x24" at the side walls near the LF speaker and 2 pc 24x24" behind the daybed. My ceilings are really high at 12 ft.So would you recommend diffusers or just acoustic pannels? BTW atsacoustic doesnt sell diffusers so where do you guys recommend I get them at a reasonable price? Thanks!

OK Rhett First here are some pics from BD you should look at !
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...&postcount=626

Then as far as diffusers I don't know where you can get them off hand . But I plan on doing what BD did and thats here !!
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...&postcount=184

[rded]

Thanks Brent! I saw those diagrams before but forgot where to find them. My guess was close and almost dead on like BD's diagram.
Since I moved the Bluray/media cabinets, my room has had very little issues. I did the clap test and I could hardly detect an echo.The main sissue to me is that I have hardwood laminate over concrete and there's nothing I can do about that and I hate putting carpeting over it.I can buy a big ass rug and case solved. The 2nd issue is the reflection from the side wall by the left front speaker and reflections from the wall behind the seating position. Both issues can be solved with the acoustic panels. The other issue is the bass going upstairs but has been tamed down a bit by the spikes on the C2s plus I'll add bass traps made by AST that are 12x12x1 with an open back design in the corners by the sub and behind the LF speaker. Since the C2s ahve the DDC(driver directional control), floor and ceiling refelctions are minimal now as evident by my wife not screaming at me anymore to turn that sh*t down I don't wanna add too much acoustic panels as it will deaden the room acoustics. So is it going to be Acoustic panels or diffusers for the ceiling?

[crazyBLUE]

Originally Posted by rded

Thanks Brent! I saw those diagrams before but forgot where to find them. My guess was close and almost dead on like BD's diagram.
Since I moved the Bluray/media cabinets, my room has had very little issues. I did the clap test and I could hardly detect an echo.The main sissue to me is that I have hardwood laminate over concrete and there's nothing I can do about that and I hate putting carpeting over it.I can buy a big ass rug and case solved. The 2nd issue is the reflection from the side wall by the left front speaker and reflections from the wall behind the seating position. Both issues can be solved with the acoustic panels. The other issue is the bass going upstairs but has been tamed down a bit by the spikes on the C2s plus I'll add bass traps made by AST that are 12x12x1 with an open back design in the corners by the sub and behind the LF speaker. Since the C2s ahve the DDC(driver directional control), floor and ceiling refelctions are minimal now as evident by my wife not screaming at me anymore to turn that sh*t down I don't wanna add too much acoustic panels as it will deaden the room acoustics. So is it going to be Acoustic panels or diffusers for the ceiling?

I will do both on mine .The foam is there already & I think I will add 3 diffusers as well to my ceiling ! I will put 1 on each side of the foam on the wall behind the center listening position too .

[rded]

Originally Posted by crazyBLUE

I will do both on mine .The foam is there already & I think I will add 3 diffusers as well to my ceiling ! I will put 1 on each side of the foam on the wall behind the center listening position too .

Brent, which site are you going to purchase the diffusers from?

[crazyBLUE]

Originally Posted by rded

Brent, which site are you going to purchase the diffusers from?

Big Daddy bought his at home depot , I am going to just look around for something close to what his look like . I am thinking maybe about the same size but more wood slats with smaller opennings .

[Big Daddy]

Originally Posted by crazyBLUE

Big Daddy bought his at home depot , I am going to just look around for something close to what his look like . I am thinking maybe about the same size but more wood slats with smaller opennings .

I bought them at Lowes for $20 each. They come in two colors.

[crazyBLUE]

Originally Posted by Big Daddy

I bought them at Lowes for $20 each. They come in two colors.

Sorry BD ~ Wrong place My Bad !

[rded]

Thanks Brent and BD! I gotta check it out!

[rded]

Originally Posted by Big Daddy

I bought them at Lowes for $20 each. They come in two colors.

Originally Posted by crazyBLUE

Sorry BD ~ Wrong place My Bad !

BD and Crazy, is this what you guys are talikng about? Sorry for stealing material from BD's post...

Originally Posted by Big Daddy

DIFFUSERS

The last project was to build sound Diffusers and install them. Here is a picture of each diffuser.

[rded]

Added 2 pictures... A view of the whole basement. Anybody care to chime in on where I can purchase quality bass traps for reasonable price?

[richteer]

Originally Posted by rded

Added 2 pictures... A view of the whole basement. Anybody care to chime in on where I can purchase quality bass traps for reasonable price?

I really like the look of Real Traps' wares. Not cheap, but if the measurements on their site are anything to go by (and they do compare their stuff to other brands), up there with the best.

Me, I'm thinking of getting some Mondo Corner Traps and some others for my room. My room is long overdue for some acoustic treatments!

[rded]

Originally Posted by richteer

I really like the look of Real Traps' wares. Not cheap, but if the measurements on their site are anything to go by (and they do compare their stuff to other brands), up there with the best.

Me, I'm thinking of getting some Mondo Corner Traps and some others for my room. My room is long overdue for some acoustic treatments!

Thank you sir! BTW here are the most recent shots of the whole basement. Would anyone care to post/chime in on where to put acoustic treatments? the First picture showcases the listening are so what are your thoughts?

[Intamin]

Originally Posted by rded

Intamin, I am a rocker at heart so I listen to a lot of heavy metal,grunge/alternative and punk and 90s alternative. My fav bands are Nirvana, GNR,Pixies,Pearl Jam,Radiohead,Smashing Pumpkins,Queen, Aerosmith,Warrant,NY Dolls, Metallica, Foo Fighters, Velvet Revolver, STP, Greenday, the Cars and Gin Blossoms.I also listen to some new wave-Depeeche Mode and Smiths. The problem with rock recordings is that there are only a handful of well recorded material.But lately, I've been listening to other Genres as well. In fact, Tori Amos and Cat Power(alternative country) is fast becoming one of my favorites plus they are great recordings. Sorry am not a Jazz man. I listen to Bob Marley only as far as reggae and Frank Sinatra baby! Absolutely NO OPERA

That's good to hear then because that's what I generally listen to as well and was wondering if there was a limit to how good that type of music can sound. Apparently not since you are still hearing improvements so that's encouraging.

[rded]

Originally Posted by Intamin

That's good to hear then because that's what I generally listen to as well and was wondering if there was a limit to how good that type of music can sound. Apparently not since you are still hearing improvements so that's encouraging.

Check this thread out by JasonR. I've written about a few cds of mine that I think sound great.

[richteer]

Originally Posted by rded

Thank you sir! BTW here are the most recent shots of the whole basement. Would anyone care to post/chime in on where to put acoustic treatments? the First picture showcases the listening are so what are your thoughts?

You'll definately want some bass traps, ideally in all four corners. Start with the front wall (i.e., the one behind L & R speakers). If you have space, a pair of the Corner Mondo Traps that I'm considering would be great for your front wall. Failing that, a pair of Mini Traps would be OK. You'd probably want something directly behind the speaker, too, although they're not dipoles so it's not so important.

The wall to your left (as seated when listening) looks angled to me, and the right wall looks relatively distant. If that is the case, side reflections probably won't be too much of a problem. But your head is very close to the rear wall, so you should really add some absorbtion there too, which should improve imaging greatly, and reduce flutter echo.

Check out the articles and videos on the Real Traps site. I learned a LOT from them!

Edit: Oh! And a bass trap for your sub from ASC would probably be a good idea at some point too.

[rded]

Originally Posted by richteer

The wall to your left (as seated when listening) looks angled to me, and the right wall looks relatively distant. If that is the case, side reflections probably won't be too much of a problem. But your head is very close to the rear wall, so you should really add some absorbtion there too, which should improve imaging greatly, and reduce flutter echo.

Check out the articles and videos on the Real Traps site. I learned a LOT from them!

Edit: Oh! And a bass trap for your sub from ASC would probably be a good idea at some point too.

Will definitely check realtraps out! As far as the left wall, its the drywall where the curain is hung that's diagonal. So I'll probably just start with the acoustic panels for the side and rear walls and take it from there.

[Fanaticalism]

Originally Posted by rded

Thank you sir! BTW here are the most recent shots of the whole basement. Would anyone care to post/chime in on where to put acoustic treatments? the First picture showcases the listening are so what are your thoughts?

First, I love the look of the room, and really like the second shot.

As to room treatment, I can't imagine treatments yielding substantial improvements in YOUR enviornment, as it seems to be pretty well furnished, with very few bare walls. The only thing I could see you doing, is maybe adding some diffusers on your ceiling.

Could you take some new photos of the front and back walls? Unless nothing has changed from the original photos.

Also, have you taken any measurements? That would be the most effective way of figuring out how your speakers and sub are interacting with your enoviornment, and take a lot of the guess work out. Not to mention, remove a lot of the "perceived" improvement.

[rded]

Originally Posted by Fanaticalism

First, I love the look of the room, and really like the second shot.

As to room treatment, I can't imagine treatments yielding substantial improvements in YOUR enviornment, as it seems to be pretty well furnished, with very few bare walls. The only thing I could see you doing, is maybe adding some diffusers on your ceiling.

Could you take some new photos of the front and back walls? Unless nothing has changed from the original photos.

Also, have you taken any measurements? That would be the most effective way of figuring out how your speakers and sub are interacting with your enoviornment, and take a lot of the guess work out. Not to mention, remove a lot of the "perceived" improvement.

Thank you Fanaticalism

I am just waiting on the color swatches to come so we can decide on color combos to fit the room aesthetics. The basement really needs to be repainted but that's another day . Nothing has changed as far as the rear(of daybed) wall. But that's what needs acoustic treatment the most.
Since I moved the 2 media cabinets, I have not recalibrated the sysytem. So I ran the Arcam room correction and whipped out the SPL meter the other night and was surprised to find out that there is very little reflection from the Left wall as there is only a .25db difference between the Right and left speakers.
The DDC(driver directional control) of the C2s as really minimized the floor to ceiling reflections so diffusers are next on the list. I figure get the acoustic panels firest and take it from there because as I mrntioned earlier, this room has very little issues and I don't want to deaden the acoustics.