Kino Lorber Studio Classics

[Nighthawk71]

Nice with Leviathan!! Kino is knocking it out of the park. Looking forward to more announcements. Kino still puts out some of the best movies on disc.

I still highly recommend The Wanderers to anyone who has not yet seen it. One of my favorite blu ray released.

[AKORIS]

Originally Posted by BarnDoor

Update on where we're at with the MGM deal. Firstly, titles announced so far:

[Show spoiler]5 Mr Wong films (1938-1940)

Bwana Devil (1952) 3D
Lonelyhearts (1958)

The Bride Wore Black (1968)

Mississippi Mermaid (1970)
The Wild Child (1970)
The Taking of Pelham 123 (1974) 4K UHD
The Story of Adele H (1975)
Small Change (1976)
The Man Who Loved Women (1977)
The Green Room (1978)

Dreamchild (1985)
Catch the Heat (1987)
Number One With a Bullet (1987)
Programmed to Kill (1987)
Leviathan (1989) 4K UHD

Ronin (1998) 4K UHD

What's left:

1950s x 2 (1958, 1959) (1 New to BD)
1960s x 3 (1960, 1965, 1967) (2 New to BD)
1970s x 1 (1978) (New to BD)
1980s x 14 (1984, 4x1985, 1986, 2x1987, 4x1988, 2x1989) (8 New to BD - 1x1985, 1x1987, 3x1988, 2x1989)
1990s x 3 (1991, 1992, 1994) (2 New to BD)
2000s x 1 (2000) (New to BD)
3 Previously Released KL titles (First time on 4K) 1960s x 1 / 1970s x 1 / 1990s x 1

General Release Info

- 3 remaining new-to-disc titles (in the US) - 1 50s, 1 60s (previously bootlegged), 1 80s
- 1 80s Cannon title which previously had clearance issues
- The 60s title previously released on DVD was issued as part of the MGM MOD Limited Edition Collection
- No titles previously released on DVD only by Shout Factory
- No more former Twilight Time releases
- No titles formerly released by Olive Films
- No more newly-acquired 4K UHD titles
- No Italian-produced films

Genres/Related

- 1 western
- 1 50s sci-fi or horror
- 1 80s TV movie (previously released on DVD)
- 'No, but kind of?' new-to-Blu 80s sex comedy
- 80s titles include horror

- 'Doesn't think' there is any noir
- No new-to-Blu 60s teen movies or 60s/70s biker movies
- No animation
- No 'coming of age' films
- No 60s or 70s horror
- No 70s sci-fi
- No new-to-Blu 80s horror
- No 90s erotic thrillers

Studios

- No new-to-Blu 60s or 70s AIP
- 2 remaining new-to-Blu 80s Cannon titles (1 new to disc)

Barndoor--- how do you apply for a full time job like this and does it pay well?

[BarnDoor]

Originally Posted by AKORIS

Barndoor--- how do you apply for a full time job like this and does it pay well?

If it did I'd probably be the happiest person on the planet.

[domtheone]

So 3 more 4K’s to come including 1 x 70’s. Last chance saloon for Thunderbolt and Lightfoot.

[Video Ghoul]

Damn! I’m happy for you 4K folks. I’m still hoping someone puts out another standard blu of Leviathan since the Scream one is out of print.

[Gunsnroses092789]

Originally Posted by Video Ghoul

Damn! I’m happy for you 4K folks. I’m still hoping someone puts out another standard blu of Leviathan since the Scream one is out of print.

They'll probably release it on standard BD too, or it will be a 4K/BD combo pack. I don't see why they wouldn't.

[FHM]

Originally Posted by domtheone

So 3 more 4K’s to come including 1 x 70’s. Last chance saloon for Thunderbolt and Lightfoot.

Originally Posted by BarnDoor

- No more former Twilight Time releases

[BarnDoor]

Looking at 1985, I don't see too many possibilities for titles previously released on Blu, which is interesting given there are 3 in the deal (this perhaps isn't everything, but probably the more realistic candidates):

Pray for Death
Missing in Action 2: The Beginning
A Chorus Line
Invasion USA
Ghoulies
Return of the Living Dead

Return of the Living Dead would surely get the 4K UHD treatment, so we can probably discount that. A Chorus Line too seems an unlikely double-dip. The Kino Insider didn't necessarily rule out the prospect of Kino having the 2 Ghoulies films, so that's possible.

In any case, I'm thinking we're getting a few Chuck double-dips in this deal.

[BarnDoor]

Originally Posted by FHM

Fear not - the TT bit only applies to newly-acquired titles. Since Kino already have Thunderbolt and Lightfoot under licence, it has a chance (I'd say as good as anything).

[James Hester]

Originally Posted by BarnDoor

Fear not - the TT bit only applies to newly-acquired titles. Since Kino already have Thunderbolt and Lightfoot under licence, it has a chance (I'd say as good as anything).

I hope so. This is probably the only way we'll ever get a slip for this movie from KL. It looks so out of place next to the other Eastwood titles.

[Kino Lorber Insider]

Originally Posted by RCRochester

I guess we'll never know.

You can always ask Olive how they did with their "Beach Party" releases, if you can still find them.

[BarnDoor]

Kino Insider - Is the 1986 title in the MGM deal new to Blu-ray? Thanks again.

[Kino Lorber Insider]

Originally Posted by RCRochester

I could make the same argument about dozens of titles Kino have released. Furthermore, there are dozens of other titles that don't even have that much going for them.

The Beach Party films have an appeal beyond just nostalgia for the reasons I alluded to previously (the appearance of "Little" Stevie Wonder as a child, Don Rickles, the late career resurgence they brought to Buster Keaton, etc.)

The Beach Party films also appeal to much of the same demographic as the Dr. Goldfoot and the Bikini Machine which Kino are seeing fit to re-release.

But, whatever, Kino are dead set against it, so hopefully another label will put the rest of the films out instead. Ideally it would be Olive, but who knows what is going on with them these days. Maybe this new label Sandpiper will take a chance on them.

Not sure how many people purchasing Blu-ray care about cameos they can watch on YouTube for free.

Dr. Goldfoot films stars the incomparable Vincent Price.

Olive released a bunch of them, the only way I can see us releasing the series as a set would be if all the titles were newly restored by MGM and all we had to worry about the guaranteed advance/authoring/replication, but as far as I know, most of them are older HD masters and some are only available in SD.

[RCRochester]

Originally Posted by Kino Lorber Insider

Not sure how many people purchasing Blu-ray care about cameos they can watch on YouTube for free.

Dr. Goldfoot films stars the incomparable Vincent Price.

Olive released a bunch of them, the only way I can see us releasing the series as a set would be if all the titles were newly restored by MGM and all we had to worry about the guaranteed advance/authoring/replication, but as far as I know, most of them are older HD masters and some are only available in SD.

I could watch every title that Kino has released on the internet for free, that's not really the point is it?

I wasn't suggesting releasing the series as a set, I threw out the idea of putting out the two most prominent ones that Olive did not release as a double-feature. I mean, you put out the three worst films from the Pink Panther series when Shout released all the good ones.

But, really, it's fine. I'm not that invested in it. It's just when you admitted that you misjudged the Thunderbirds, I thought maybe you'd have an open mind about something else that could be of interest to your customers that you potentially also misjudged.

[Kino Lorber Insider]

Originally Posted by hammer99

I would think Beach Party would sell more than either Dr. Goldfoot. I also think it would sell more than quite a bit of the Bob Hope’s that Kino has put out, as well as say any of the obscure pre-Code’s or TV movies. But then I look up Beach Blanket Bingo on this site and see that it’s only in 176 collections while being out for over 7 years.

Lol, are you serious? Beach Party movies may outsell the sh¡tty Bob Hope films, but they'll never outsell anything starring VP.

Ask Scorpion about their KL co-release of For Those Who Think Young, which I know is not your typical BP movie, but it has an amazing cast (James Darren, Pamela Tiffin, Nancy Sinatra, Bob Denver, Tina Louise, Paul Lynde, Claudia Martin, Ellen Burstyn) and has done horrible numbers.

I love fans who think they know more about sales than labels/studios releasing discs.

[Kino Lorber Insider]

Originally Posted by RCRochester

I could watch every title that Kino has released on the internet for free, that's not really the point is it?

I wasn't suggesting releasing the series as a set, I threw out the idea of putting out the two most prominent ones that Olive did not release as a double-feature. I mean, you put out the three worst films from the Pink Panther series when Shout released all the good ones.

But, really, it's fine. I'm not that invested in it. It's just when you admitted that you misjudged the Thunderbirds, I thought maybe you'd have an open mind about something else that could be of interest to your customers that you potentially also misjudged.

I said cameos, if you're really interested in seeing little Stevie Wonder perform a number, you're not buying the disc, you'll watch it and download it from YT.

The three worst PP movies were part of the series and should've been available, you're not seriously comparing BP series to the PP one. Also, all of them were available in HD and I would argue they were not much worse than Trail of the PP.

[Kino Lorber Insider]

Originally Posted by Cinema84

Paramount disagrees with you since they're giving the 1987 reunion film the Paramount Presents treatment.

Back to the Beach was also on the list of titles we asked for years ago, before our deal with them fell through.

[Kino Lorber Insider]

Originally Posted by vortexx

KLI, Theoretical question - once most or all the popular titles get released or re-released, do you think that there might be demand for titles that are less popular at the moment or from genres that might be less popular? Example, some very obscure titles or titles that are predicted not to do too well. Another example genres like blaxsploitation, that seem to be less popular at the moment.

No, unfortunately, there'll never be a market for these films. And we'll never run out of movies, 10 years from now we'll be releasing special editions of films from they early part of this decade.

[Kino Lorber Insider]

Originally Posted by captveg

Didn't Paramount hire the guy who started the Vestron line for Lionsgate? I believe I read that somewhere.

Paramount had a deal with Warner Brothers, who was in charge of their library, deciding what to release/re-release. A few years ago they decided to start licensing some of their essentials and simultaneously decided to get back in the home entertainment business, since then they've been the busiest studio releasing catalog titles.

[gudemameshiba]

Originally Posted by RCRochester

But, really, it's fine. I'm not that invested in it. It's just when you admitted that you misjudged the Thunderbirds, I thought maybe you'd have an open mind about something else that could be of interest to your customers that you potentially also misjudged.

I love this logic. Not every release is a hit, so therefore it follows that the boutique that in 2020 and 2021 released 432 movies/TV shows for the first time on U.S. Blu-ray is not taking enough risks and needs to reconsider titles they’d previously ruled out.

Makes sense to me! @KLI when can dvining expect Hamlet 2 on UHD?