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Old 06-06-2022, 03:04 PM   #1401
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Yeah, it being Currently Unavailable makes more sense in the usual pattern that these listings get posted on Amazon. Was surprised to see it available to order (albeit Temp OOS).
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Old 06-06-2022, 03:05 PM   #1402
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Old 06-06-2022, 03:13 PM   #1403
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Maybe Mann doesn't like HDR. Collateral looks like there is none. Very interesting to see what Heat looks like in 4K. I'm prepared to be dissapointed but who knows, sometimes there has to be pleasant surprises.
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Old 06-06-2022, 03:15 PM   #1404
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Just revisited few scenes. There is no High Dynamic Range. Even the city lights looks diffused and muted. It's not bad or unwatchable but it's going to piss off a lot of people. Definitely going to stir a lot of debate about creative intent.
I don't want to tell Mann how his movie is suppose to look, but we all saw so many beautiful HDR grades of 35mm catalogue titles on UHD... It's a shame movie with such immaculate visuals like Heat will end up looking muted and flat. (which is nothing I couldn't fix with HDR settings on Panny 820)

BUT I will be more than happy having it in native 4K and with better compression.
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Old 06-06-2022, 03:19 PM   #1405
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I don't want to tell Mann how his movie is suppose to look, but we all saw so many beautiful HDR grades of 35mm catalogue titles on UHD... It's a shame movie with such immaculate visuals like Heat will end up looking muted and flat. (which is nothing I couldn't fix with HDR settings on Panny 820)

BUT I will be more than happy having it in native 4K and with better compression.
And Dolby Atmouse
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Old 06-06-2022, 03:21 PM   #1406
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And Dolby Atmouse
I highly doubt Mann would let anyone ruin this film with bad audio mix.
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Old 06-06-2022, 03:22 PM   #1407
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I highly doubt Mann would let anyone ruin this film with bad audio mix.
Good thing he already did himself (RIP Dennis Haysbert's grunt).
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Old 06-06-2022, 03:28 PM   #1408
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Good thing he already did himself (RIP Dennis Haysbert's grunt).
*grunts*
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Old 06-06-2022, 03:39 PM   #1409
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They really just re-used the same art from the Premium Collection Steelbook:

In this version, Al Pacino's character joins the robbery.
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Old 06-06-2022, 03:45 PM   #1410
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I don't high hopes. Who knows what Michael Mann will change this time...
It’s still going to be the horrible newer colour grade so I can’t get excited about it.
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Old 06-06-2022, 03:47 PM   #1411
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Good thing he already did himself (RIP Dennis Haysbert's grunt).
That pissed me off more than anything Mann did to the colour timing.
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Old 06-06-2022, 03:48 PM   #1412
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I guess Disney will have a steelbook too unless it ends up being steelbonk
I expect no steelbook. Slipcase in USA and UK, Germans will get barebones KeepCase/Amaray
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Old 06-06-2022, 03:50 PM   #1413
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I don't want to tell Mann how his movie is suppose to look, but we all saw so many beautiful HDR grades of 35mm catalogue titles on UHD... It's a shame movie with such immaculate visuals like Heat will end up looking muted and flat. (which is nothing I couldn't fix with HDR settings on Panny 820)

BUT I will be more than happy having it in native 4K and with better compression.
Well you can boost the picture using 820 with HDR10 but it might be considered as against creator's intent which in this case is going against HDR. It's like an oxymoron.
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Old 06-06-2022, 04:19 PM   #1414
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Yeah, it being Currently Unavailable makes more sense in the usual pattern that these listings get posted on Amazon. Was surprised to see it available to order (albeit Temp OOS).
The suspense is killing me:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o_i7ZnlmHwQ
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Old 06-06-2022, 05:41 PM   #1415
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I wouldn't have minded if they kept the artwork for the Director's Definitive Edition. I always thought it worked pretty well for the movie and it wasn't just floating heads or bad photoshop.




I don't have anything against the artwork for the potential 4K release. It's fine, but could be a bit more exciting.
I really like the night time artwork on the US Blu. Wish they'd kept that actually.
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Old 06-06-2022, 05:54 PM   #1416
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It's kind of random what he decides to tinker with: 'Thief' no, but 'Heat' gets a pretty radical reworking.
Mann screwed with Thief pretty extensively. Arrow even put out both versions (TC & DC) out on Blu to ensure fans would not trash the release for favoring one and not the other.

https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=665044

I love Mann as a filmmaker, I really do, but I wonder sometimes if he doesn't make these alterations just to screw with us. Maybe to see who'll notice or just to have a laugh (and I say this knowing full well how uncharacteristic it would be, but some of these alterations... like the framerate changes in Thief... Come on!)

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Old 06-06-2022, 06:09 PM   #1417
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I almost got kicked out of my apartment complex in late 1996 after playing the drive-in shootout with the windows open (it was blazing hot and no A/C). The AC-3 LaserDisc's sound was incredible.
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Old 06-06-2022, 06:47 PM   #1418
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Mann screwed with Thief pretty extensively. Arrow even put out both versions (TC & DC) out on Blu to ensure fans would not trash the release for favoring one and not the other.

https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=665044

I love Mann as a filmmaker, I really do, but I wonder sometimes if he doesn't make these alterations just to screw with us. Maybe to see who'll notice or just to have a laugh (and I say this knowing full well how uncharacteristic it would be, but some of these alterations... like the framerate changes in Thief... Come on!)
Paranoia is a stinky cologne.
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I don't high hopes. Who knows what Michael Mann will change this time...
He's not changing anything. It's exactly raw same 4K master that he already made and approved.
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