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Old 06-17-2009, 08:41 AM   #1
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I currently have a 60" 1080i Sony Grand Wega from 2004( http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/...52921665087409 ). Although when i press display on the remote My tv's res shows as 1080i. Don't know if the 720p that that set is listed as shows up as 1080i when you press the display button on thr remote(the remote model # is RM-Y915) Would like it to be a solidly established model. No first gens, I wan't the bugs worked out by the time my model comes out. Hdmi 1.3 chip or better No side speakers attached(have surround sound and with the extra space saved I can get a bigger tv. (So no bigger than the width of my current tv 62" wide)I can start putting about $100.00 a month away. Already have $400.00 saved I want something that is at least 62". I would prefer a rear projection tv because, I'm going to keep the tv for 5-7 years so, when the light source dies I can just replace the bulb instead of having to buy a whole new tv plus I'd get the extended warranty. Are there any that are currently unavailable but, will be coming out w/in a close(1-2 years) time frame? Any suggestions for me?
Anyone know how much that 82" set from Mits will be.

I really wish Sony would get back into the rear projection tv's. They were my favorite.

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Old 06-17-2009, 11:21 AM   #2
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What do you guys & girls think about this? http://hhgregg.com/ProductDetail.asp...BrandStore=All How is the PQ on these new Mits DLPS? Can you really see an 80% improvement? They've added a lot of new features since the last model.

This is the place where I bought my last tv. They actually were able to negotiate prices with me so, I wonder how much I
could get hem down to.

I don't have a Vanns near me and HHGregg doesn't have the Mitsubishi WD65837 but, Vanns does. http://search.vanns.com/sitesearch/s...2Mitsubishi%22 Can anyone who's seen these models tell me if there is a noticeable difference in PQ? What are the top two Mits DLP under $3,000.00?

One more thing, how big of a difference is the PQ on these new models that have the HDMI 1.3 chip in them? While I'm asking 100 different questions how is the service from Vanns if you live in Ohio like me? Repairs easy out here through Vanns? Besides Laservue which is VERY expensive, are there any other HD projection tvs on the horizon? Any new rumors of higher resolutions?

Noone can provide me w/an useful first hand knowledge?

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Old 06-24-2009, 02:22 AM   #3
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I truly wish I had a good suggestion for you. At this point, there are no LCoS 60"+ units anymore. And only MITS for RPTV DLP. Considering future repair part availability, it's hard to recommend RPTV DLP.

Don't be concerned over 1.3. Nice, but little more is brought to the party.

Perhaps a good choice is Sammy LCDs. I have a 52" A650 series in the bedroom that's quite nice. Maybe a larger one in the series is worthwhile. I doubt that paying the freight for a B750 (or even an A750) is worth it. My Sammy has wide viewing angles and very good blacks.

We're really all waiting for OLEDs to hit the larger screen size market, at reasonable prices. 5 years? 6-10?
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Old 06-24-2009, 04:54 AM   #4
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What do you guys & girls think about this? http://hhgregg.com/ProductDetail.asp...BrandStore=All How is the PQ on these new Mits DLPS? Can you really see an 80% improvement? They've added a lot of new features since the last model.

This is the place where I bought my last tv. They actually were able to negotiate prices with me so, I wonder how much I
could get hem down to.

I don't have a Vanns near me and HHGregg doesn't have the Mitsubishi WD65837 but, Vanns does. http://search.vanns.com/sitesearch/s...2Mitsubishi%22 Can anyone who's seen these models tell me if there is a noticeable difference in PQ? What are the top two Mits DLP under $3,000.00?

One more thing, how big of a difference is the PQ on these new models that have the HDMI 1.3 chip in them? While I'm asking 100 different questions how is the service from Vanns if you live in Ohio like me? Repairs easy out here through Vanns? Besides Laservue which is VERY expensive, are there any other HD projection tvs on the horizon? Any new rumors of higher resolutions?

Noone can provide me w/an useful first hand knowledge?
nice TV.
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Old 06-24-2009, 05:03 AM   #5
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I hope this doesn't hurt, but I would suggest getting a front projection set (I know this is a rear projection set, but from your suggestions I just want to help) and there are alot more manufacturers making front projection sets (DLP, LCD, LCoS or SXRD/D-ILA which is basically LCoS) and many cost no more than a Rear projection set (By the way, the 82 inch Mitsubishi cost $4199). They use a bulb source to light up the image, just like rear projection sets, cost just as much to replace the bulb as rear projection sets (average price is about $299-$399) and is the most cinematic way to watch your programming (movies, TV, games, etc...), I must point out a couple of things, the average bulb may not last as long as some rear projection sets (but Bulbs on rear projection sets don't last so long either), the average bulb life for a projector is 2000 hours (unless notified otherwise, check info for bulb life on the projector), some people complain about the brightness of the projectors when shown in Daylight, but I would suggest decreasing the size of the projector with the zoom, and it would appear just as bright as a television screen (brightness of the projector vary so check info on the Lumens and an important note, check for lumens the projector can produce in it's best mode). Personally I don't like watching movies with ambient light anyways, and if that is what you mostly do with your TV is watching movies at night in the dark, I'm sorry, but in my opinion I think it makes buying a TV irrelevant, but I understand some people wanting to keep their TVs. you will need room for the projector for it to project the image (It is an issue with small zoom lenses on DLPs), but the majority of living rooms have about more than 15 feet of room making it pretty easy to fill a 100 inch screen, and some LCDs and LCoS can fill a 100 inch screen from 10 feet away. If you can give me info on the size of the room I can suggest a projector for it's zoom. The projector manufacturers in home theater for DLP are Infocus, Optoma, BenQ, Marantz (expensive though), Sharp and Mitsubishi (720p model very cheap though), for LCD is Sanyo, Epson, Panasonic, Mitsubishi, Sony (720p), and Viewsonic, for LCoS is JVC and sony. prices vary, but cheap 1080p models are availible, the Infocus X10 DLP 1080P projector sold from tigerdirect.com cost about $1300 and is a great value, but if you are a black level fanatic, I would save up for an LCoS model from sony or JVC, Sony's cheapest LCoS projector (Sony VPL-HW10) cost about $3500, but you can find cheaper prices for their LCoS projectors however (you may want to make sure the dealer provides a waranty, otherwise if it breaks, you will need to pay for repairs). JVC projectors cost more, but have superior native contrast and have the best blacks for a projector under $10,000, though the RS-10 cost $4999, you can find it for cheaper prices (but again check for waranty). If you want great contrast but don't mind it being an LCD and want it cheaper, look for projectors from panasonic PT-AE3000 ($2499), the Epson 6500UB ($2999) and the Sanyo PLV-Z3000 ($2300) are great values. Well I don't think I have enough time, but let me know in the next post if you want to know more.

If you are still not buying into front projection. There are some cheap rear projection sets on Amazon.com, some are less than $1500, one about that for 65 inches.
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Old 06-24-2009, 02:24 PM   #6
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wow id love that 82" Mitsu set, i havent seen a store carry mitsubishi up here though for years :/

the specs on the tv you linked look good, btw
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I hope this doesn't hurt, but I would suggest getting a front projection set (I know this is a rear projection set, but from your suggestions I just want to help) and there are alot more manufacturers making front projection sets (DLP, LCD, LCoS or SXRD/D-ILA which is basically LCoS) and many cost no more than a Rear projection set (By the way, the 82 inch Mitsubishi cost $4199). They use a bulb source to light up the image, just like rear projection sets, cost just as much to replace the bulb as rear projection sets (average price is about $299-$399) and is the most cinematic way to watch your programming (movies, TV, games, etc...), I must point out a couple of things, the average bulb may not last as long as some rear projection sets (but Bulbs on rear projection sets don't last so long either), the average bulb life for a projector is 2000 hours (unless notified otherwise, check info for bulb life on the projector), some people complain about the brightness of the projectors when shown in Daylight, but I would suggest decreasing the size of the projector with the zoom, and it would appear just as bright as a television screen (brightness of the projector vary so check info on the Lumens and an important note, check for lumens the projector can produce in it's best mode). Personally I don't like watching movies with ambient light anyways, and if that is what you mostly do with your TV is watching movies at night in the dark, I'm sorry, but in my opinion I think it makes buying a TV irrelevant, but I understand some people wanting to keep their TVs. you will need room for the projector for it to project the image (It is an issue with small zoom lenses on DLPs), but the majority of living rooms have about more than 15 feet of room making it pretty easy to fill a 100 inch screen, and some LCDs and LCoS can fill a 100 inch screen from 10 feet away. If you can give me info on the size of the room I can suggest a projector for it's zoom. The projector manufacturers in home theater for DLP are Infocus, Optoma, BenQ, Marantz (expensive though), Sharp and Mitsubishi (720p model very cheap though), for LCD is Sanyo, Epson, Panasonic, Mitsubishi, Sony (720p), and Viewsonic, for LCoS is JVC and sony. prices vary, but cheap 1080p models are availible, the Infocus X10 DLP 1080P projector sold from tigerdirect.com cost about $1300 and is a great value, but if you are a black level fanatic, I would save up for an LCoS model from sony or JVC, Sony's cheapest LCoS projector (Sony VPL-HW10) cost about $3500, but you can find cheaper prices for their LCoS projectors however (you may want to make sure the dealer provides a waranty, otherwise if it breaks, you will need to pay for repairs). JVC projectors cost more, but have superior native contrast and have the best blacks for a projector under $10,000, though the RS-10 cost $4999, you can find it for cheaper prices (but again check for waranty). If you want great contrast but don't mind it being an LCD and want it cheaper, look for projectors from panasonic PT-AE3000 ($2499), the Epson 6500UB ($2999) and the Sanyo PLV-Z3000 ($2300) are great values. Well I don't think I have enough time, but let me know in the next post if you want to know more.

If you are still not buying into front projection. There are some cheap rear projection sets on Amazon.com, some are less than $1500, one about that for 65 inches.
I don't quite have enough room for a projector, necessary feet in between the projector/screen in the tv/family room. I bought some plan from HHGREGG that replaces my bulb for free so I don't have to play for burnt bulbs. I hope they still have that plan at HHGREGG. Thanks for the suggestion though.

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