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Old 11-30-2022, 06:49 PM   #11221
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You hold down the sub button. Long press
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To cycle? cool beans.
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To turn on and off
FWIW, this does not work for me on the 820 with a replacement remote with the -10/+60 buttons. Long press on the SUBS button brings up the menu just like a short press.
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Old 11-30-2022, 09:15 PM   #11222
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It's not like the HDR settings aren't available without that button.
How is that done? I don’t actually plan on changing from Standard to Natural, Light, or Bright, but I’m curious nonetheless.
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Old 11-30-2022, 10:01 PM   #11223
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How is that done? I don’t actually plan on changing from Standard to Natural, Light, or Bright, but I’m curious nonetheless.
Video Settings button if I recall, it brings up the menu.
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Old 11-30-2022, 10:09 PM   #11224
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I think the cheap ...172 model was not available when I ordered so I chosed much cheaper ...131 genuine model (compared to genuine 172).
What's the difference between the 131 and 172 models? Do they both work on the UB820?
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Old 11-30-2022, 10:16 PM   #11225
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Video Settings button if I recall, it brings up the menu.
The Video Settings button takes you to the HDR Optimizer menu within Options.

This is the menu that appears when you tap the HDR Setting button:
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Old 12-01-2022, 12:08 AM   #11226
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The Video Settings button takes you to the HDR Optimizer menu within Options.

[Show spoiler]This is the menu that appears when you tap the HDR Setting button:
Those are the presets, each of those are available through the slider in the Optimizer.
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Old 12-01-2022, 12:55 AM   #11227
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Those are the presets, each of those are available through the slider in the Optimizer.
Are we just supposed to magically know how to set those sliders exactly to match each preset?

Regardless, that’s not what we’re even talking about. There’s no way to access the HDR Setting menu pictured without the HDR Setting button.
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Old 12-01-2022, 01:43 AM   #11228
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Are we just supposed to magically know how to set those sliders exactly to match each preset?

Regardless, that’s not what we’re even talking about. There’s no way to access the HDR Setting menu pictured without the HDR Setting button.
Not magically, no, but if you go from the presets to the advance settings it shows you the value of each, if I recall it's only the top slider that changes, as you choose more contrast or peak brightness from the Standard setting.
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Old 12-01-2022, 02:19 AM   #11229
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Not magically, no, but if you go from the presets to the advance settings it shows you the value of each, if I recall it's only the top slider that changes, as you choose more contrast or peak brightness from the Standard setting.
You’re missing my point. Without the HDR Setting button there is no way change, or see the presets for, each selection. In order to only use of of the upgraded remotes, someone would have to literally memorize or write down the presets of each HDR mode. But that’s far more difficult than even grabbing the original UB820 remote just to access the HDR Setting.

Point being, if you’re not using a remote with the HDR Setting button it is impossible to access its menu.
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Old 12-01-2022, 02:28 AM   #11230
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It is, but whilst I get your point, the presets, if I recall are from dark room to light room and the slider represents the same thing. But you have a more detailed options menu.

At the end of the day I generally set it to Standard and if I need to tweak it, I can adjust the slider and not change to another preset.
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Old 12-01-2022, 02:45 AM   #11231
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FWIW, this does not work for me on the 820 with a replacement remote with the -10/+60 buttons. Long press on the SUBS button brings up the menu just like a short press.
Both of my remotes work just fine on mine with the $15 remote and my 420 and 820. i don’t mess with the sub titles so I have no idea about that.
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Old 12-01-2022, 03:06 AM   #11232
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I’m wondering if there’s a workaround to get DVDs to play at 24fps. I’m not too hopeful considering the 60Hz bug for USB content (which is disappointing enough).
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Old 12-01-2022, 07:32 AM   #11233
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What's the difference between the 131 and 172 models? Do they both work on the UB820?
Both will work. I have official 131.

172 one has separate HDR button as well as handy -10s and +60s direct jump buttons. I think I will order also 172 replacement version just to get those jump buttons. HDR button functionality is already discussed in few post above.

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Old 12-01-2022, 01:39 PM   #11234
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How is that done? I don’t actually plan on changing from Standard to Natural, Light, or Bright, but I’m curious nonetheless.
I've never used those presets, and I never will. Complete non-issue IMO and not worth putting up with the awful OG remote for a function I'll never use!
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Old 12-01-2022, 02:52 PM   #11235
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I've never used those presets, and I never will. Complete non-issue IMO and not worth putting up with the awful OG remote for a function I'll never use!
Cool rant, bro.
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Old 12-01-2022, 03:02 PM   #11236
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Old 12-01-2022, 04:06 PM   #11237
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This is a question for you longstanding owners of the 820 player. Is it really that bad with scratched discs (for both 2K BD and UHD)? Best Buy has an extended return period so I decided to try it out and see how much I like it over my current Sony X700. If it has a problem with most scratched discs, I don't think I can keep it. It's been my experience that more than 2 out of 3 discs put out by SF (the label I collect most heavily) over the past few years have scratches.
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Old 12-01-2022, 05:07 PM   #11238
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This is a question for you longstanding owners of the 820 player. Is it really that bad with scratched discs (for both 2K BD and UHD)? Best Buy has an extended return period so I decided to try it out and see how much I like it over my current Sony X700. If it has a problem with most scratched discs, I don't think I can keep it. It's been my experience that more than 2 out of 3 discs put out by SF (the label I collect most heavily) over the past few years have scratches.
Ooh, I meant to reply to that. My 820 has been fine for scratched discs, I don't think any one brand is immune to a badly damaged disc (had to send back Fright Night as the Panny nor the OPPO could play past the scratched point) but for light scratches it's been fine, nothing like as sensitive as what matey described his as. I don't doubt his experience but my own, with all the Panny UHD players I've had, has been excellent. But then that's what UHD has been like, it's a lottery as to whether the player you buy will be 99% bulletproof or as sensitive as an exposed nerve.
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Old 12-01-2022, 06:30 PM   #11239
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Thanks for your input, Geoff. I plan on getting my worst scratched discs that play fine with my X700 and give them a spin on the new 820. I think you're right about the hardware lottery. X700 owners seem to be sharply divided between those that have next to no problems and those with constant problems with it that make them want to pull their hair out.


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Ooh, I meant to reply to that. My 820 has been fine for scratched discs, I don't think any one brand is immune to a badly damaged disc (had to send back Fright Night as the Panny nor the OPPO could play past the scratched point) but for light scratches it's been fine, nothing like as sensitive as what matey described his as. I don't doubt his experience but my own, with all the Panny UHD players I've had, has been excellent. But then that's what UHD has been like, it's a lottery as to whether the player you buy will be 99% bulletproof or as sensitive as an exposed nerve.
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Old 12-01-2022, 07:50 PM   #11240
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I just got a Region Free UB820 (UK model, actually) from 220 Electronics.
[Show spoiler]There was a 10% off cyber promo, which still appears to be active FYI.
This unit is incredible, and it’s really helped to make my recent LG G2 OLED purchase well worth the investment. Couldn’t be happier.

Minor caveats:

-Automatic resolution switching is broken.
-Uncomfortable and awkward remote. Though, as stated prior, an upgraded replacement was easy and inexpensive.
-Poor streaming app software. But that’s what my Apple TV 4K is for.
-Forced 60Hz content. I’m holding onto my Sony X800 for USB files and DVDs.

Note:
The UHD players I’d previously tried were…

-UB820 (Region A locked), but I couldn’t stand to neglect the piles of imported Blu-rays.
-Sony X800M2, which inexplicably looked worse than the X800 (as detailed by @Geoff D in that thread), and DV must be enabled manually.
-Sony X700, which I thought was all around poor in terms of build quality and performance.

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