Do the Right Thing (1989) (20th Anniversary Edition) - Page 4 - Blu-ray Forum

goochspot · 06-19-2009, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Riff Magnum

1) Once again I agree, TWBB is a masterpiece. Half my posts on this site are related to how awesome i think it is. Is it a drama, a comedy, a horror film, or revenge flick? When i watch it, i have no idea i'm watching a movie. It feels like the most well produced/written/acted/scored/filmed documentary in the history of the world. The oil derrick explosion scene gives my whole body goosebumps. It puts me in a trance.

+1

MTRodaba2468 · 06-19-2009, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Nutbunnies

Oh boy, this is bad. Check out the DVD Beaver review: http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDRe...ng_blu-ray.htm

Universal has ruined the color timing of this. It's not what Spike Lee made. They've changed it from the hottest day of the year to a breezy spring day.

Oy. The same thing happened with Anchor Bay's subsequent Halloween releases.

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Originally Posted by benricci

I don't think they ruined anything. It looks fantastic. When the Criterion disc came out people complained that it was way too "orange".

It looks much more naturalistic now, while still retaining the feel of heat in the picture. I know the DP approved the Criterion transfer, but I think it was a bit too overdone with the orange.

Have you watched the blu-ray or are you basing your judgement solely on a few screenshots on the internet? Watch it in action, it's phenomenal.

You're right that it does look much more naturalistic, and the detail in the image is stunning. But the "orange" look to the film was intentional. Personally, I get much more of a sense of heat in the original transfer than the new one.

I still plan on getting this release very soon, but this is another reason why I'm not going to get rid of my Criterion release either.

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Originally Posted by ulri4651

wow. "masterpiece" is a strong word and shouldn't be thrown around when talking about film. and it definately shouldn't be thrown around when talking about Spike Lee film!

You're welcome to feel that way, just as I'm welcome to disagree with you completely. Do The Right Thing is a bona fide masterpiece, as far as I'm concerned.

JJJ225 · 06-20-2009, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ulri4651

wow. "masterpiece" is a strong word and shouldn't be thrown around when talking about film. and it definately shouldn't be thrown around when talking about Spike Lee film!

Believe me, I do not throw the term around lightly. Out of the hundreds of thousands of films, I think I might call 20-30 masterpiece?

It's obvious that you don't care for Lee's work, and that's okay. But to accuse me of mindlessly using a term to describe a film is absurd.

ulri4651 · 06-20-2009, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by JJJ225

Believe me, I do not throw the term around lightly. Out of the hundreds of thousands of films, I think I might call 20-30 masterpiece?

Curious to know which 20-30?

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Originally Posted by JJJ225

It's obvious that you don't care for Lee's work, and that's okay. But to accuse me of mindlessly using a term to describe a film is absurd.

You are absolutely right, and I apologize. I let my opinion of the film cloud my judgement.

Nutbunnies · 06-20-2009, 07:11 AM

Alot of people have been throwing around some BS about how the orange was only on the Criterion release. But through the magic of Google cache, here's how they're wrong!

http://tinyurl.com/l9ukuc

Wow, would you look at that. The 1998 Universal DVD actually was MORE orange!

JJJ225 · 06-20-2009, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ulri4651

Curious to know which 20-30?

You are absolutely right, and I apologize. I let my opinion of the film cloud my judgement.

My point isn't that you shouldn't think it's not a masterpiece, but to accuse me of "throwing the term around" is really stupid.

And I'm not going to sit down and figure out my top 30 films of all time, but off the top of my head here's some films I'd consider masterpieces: 2001: A Space Odyssey, Last Year at Marienbad, Hiroshima Mon Amour, Chinatown, Apocalypse Now, Bigger Than Life, Lawrence of Arabia, The Cranes Are Flying, The Last Temptation of Christ, Citizen Kane, Vertigo, Singin' in the Rain, Meet Me In St. Louis, Raging Bull, The Passion of Joan of Arc, City Lights, Annie Hall.

HotRats · 06-20-2009, 08:56 PM

I'm only going by the pics on DVDBeaver but this new issue looks very wrong to me without the orange tint. As the Criterion DVD transfer was approved by Ernest Dickerson I wonder what he'd have to say about this

Harry Caul · 06-20-2009, 10:49 PM

I'm never too sure about those tests when it comes to yellow or warm coloring, had the same thing with the Godfather on my Television you can change the colour matrix from ITU 601 to ITU 709 which is the standart colour matrix for HD, and that ads a warm colour to the image on 601 colours look allways too red like in those tests, now if you upconvert a DVD it's still the 601 matrix because the studio masters are made according to this matrix. But the Godfather was less yellow than the old DVD's but never as red as those tests.

Phoenix Theory · 06-29-2009, 02:04 PM

i have a huge question do you guys think target will be getting this movie because that's the only place i could buy it in stores usually my target dosent get 20$ movies or will i have to get it online ?

DetroitSportsFan · 06-29-2009, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by goochspot

BTW, you're full of crap. The first post you made in here stated you didn't think Do the Right Thing or any Spike Lee film should be labeled a masterpiece.

Can't wait to hear the reason's why it's not a masterpiece.

Thanks!

CHERRYGARCIA · 06-29-2009, 06:17 PM

received my copy over the weekend and I think the film looks fantastic..and it still has a bit of the yellow/orange color to it...especially noticeable in the first ten minutes of the film when 'Da Mayor" is lying it bed complaining how hot it is

hdogg523 · 07-07-2009, 10:18 PM

has anyone found this blu-ray in stores yet... i can't seem to find it?

Phoenix Theory · 07-07-2009, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by hdogg523

has anyone found this blu-ray in stores yet... i can't seem to find it?

me either i know some stores have it but not around me guess have to buy it online

bootsy · 07-08-2009, 02:09 AM

I bought mine online on Saturday and it hasn't even shipped yet.

Uncle Leo · 07-08-2009, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ulri4651

BTW, this is EXACTLY the kind of post I like to read. You are clearly an intelligent person and not just interested in throwing out blanket statements for the simple purpose of posting. I appreciate any dialogue and certainly any well thought argument when it comes to discussing movies. But I find more than not people are only interested in giving an opinion without any sort of rhyme or reason as to why they feel that way. If you think a film is a masterpiece, why do you think that? Its not wrong to have an opinion and I'm not trying to tell anybody there opinion is wrong. But you shouldn't just throw out terms like "masterpiece" when discussing cinema unless you have an argument to support such a statement of fact.

I actually grew up in the NY metropolitan area at the time this movie was made and saw this in the movie theater when it came out. And IMO it is a masterpiece due to the fact that this movie more than than any other REPRESENTS the feel and ATTITUDE of New York at that time. People were really like that. Its a beautiful movie.

roshamboh · 07-08-2009, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by hdogg523

has anyone found this blu-ray in stores yet... i can't seem to find it?

I have been to ten stores in my area trying to find it...and nobody seems to have this which really bums me out. I guess I will have to try and find it in stock somewhere online.

drtre81 · 07-08-2009, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by roshamboh

I have been to ten stores in my area trying to find it...and nobody seems to have this which really bums me out. I guess I will have to try and find it in stock somewhere online.

It's "The Man"

Variable · 07-08-2009, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ulri4651

yeah, gee I wonder why they did that??? Come on man, don't be naive. Its a good film, but certainly NOT a masterpiece...

are you saying Spike Lee was recognized on that list because he's black?

I can't figure out what else you could mean but I'd like to give you a chance to explain yourself one way or another.

you're already coming off as a bad type of film snob. I don't mind having specific and critical tastes but seriously jumping on people for calling this movie a masterpiece is ridiculous.

edit - also I consider TWBB to be pretty far from a masterpiece. you speak with more authority than you should IMO as far as what is/isn't a masterpiece.

diamondfoxxx · 07-09-2009, 05:11 AM

It's a miracle a film like this was even made. I'm sure the White pseudo-liberal Hollywood industry had plenty of sleepless nights after this was released.
No doubt, the same ugly White Supremacist rear their head when people call this film 'a masterpiece', but hey, we all know where they're coming from.

The White Race, like the German Race, has plenty to be ashamed of.

rocks off · 07-09-2009, 07:00 AM

So did Criterion lose the rights to publish this one or something? I've never actually seen the physical Criterion disc on store shelves (I rented it) so I assumed it was an older release that went out of print. I really wish they would do a proper release of this. I usually don't mind slight changes to picture but this one seems insane to me.

06-20-2009, 10:49 PM	#68
Harry Caul Active Member Member since:Feb 2009 Blu-ray collection:643 Blu-ray reviews: 4	I'm never too sure about those tests when it comes to yellow or warm coloring, had the same thing with the Godfather on my Television you can change the colour matrix from ITU 601 to ITU 709 which is the standart colour matrix for HD, and that ads a warm colour to the image on 601 colours look allways too red like in those tests, now if you upconvert a DVD it's still the 601 matrix because the studio masters are made according to this matrix. But the Godfather was less yellow than the old DVD's but never as red as those tests. Last edited by Harry Caul; 06-22-2009 at 09:03 AM.

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06-20-2009, 07:11 AM	#65
Nutbunnies Member Member since:Mar 2009 Blu-ray collection:91 iTunes collection:31	Alot of people have been throwing around some BS about how the orange was only on the Criterion release. But through the magic of Google cache, here's how they're wrong! http://tinyurl.com/l9ukuc Wow, would you look at that. The 1998 Universal DVD actually was MORE orange!

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HotRats Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2009	I'm only going by the pics on DVDBeaver but this new issue looks very wrong to me without the orange tint. As the Criterion DVD transfer was approved by Ernest Dickerson I wonder what he'd have to say about this

06-29-2009, 02:04 PM	#69
Phoenix Theory Banned Member since:Mar 2009 Location:30 Years From Now Home Theater Gallery:228 Blu-ray collection:457 DVD collection:5 Blu-ray reviews:18 Trading Score:163	i have a huge question do you guys think target will be getting this movie because that's the only place i could buy it in stores usually my target dosent get 20$ movies or will i have to get it online ?

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CHERRYGARCIA Expert Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Queens, NY 4K collection:216 Blu-ray collection:629 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:41	received my copy over the weekend and I think the film looks fantastic..and it still has a bit of the yellow/orange color to it...especially noticeable in the first ten minutes of the film when 'Da Mayor" is lying it bed complaining how hot it is

07-07-2009, 10:18 PM	#72
hdogg523 Senior Member Member since:Apr 2009 Location:Houston, Tx Blu-ray collection:45 Trading Score:1	has anyone found this blu-ray in stores yet... i can't seem to find it?

07-08-2009, 02:09 AM	#74
bootsy Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Apr 2009 4K collection:216 Blu-ray collection:340 DVD collection:2 Trading Score:6	I bought mine online on Saturday and it hasn't even shipped yet.

07-09-2009, 05:11 AM	#79
diamondfoxxx Senior Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:San Francisco Blu-ray collection:45 Blu-ray reviews: 36	It's a miracle a film like this was even made. I'm sure the White pseudo-liberal Hollywood industry had plenty of sleepless nights after this was released. No doubt, the same ugly White Supremacist rear their head when people call this film 'a masterpiece', but hey, we all know where they're coming from. The White Race, like the German Race, has plenty to be ashamed of.

07-09-2009, 07:00 AM	#80
rocks off Active Member Member since:Jun 2009 Blu-ray collection:179 Blu-ray reviews:1	So did Criterion lose the rights to publish this one or something? I've never actually seen the physical Criterion disc on store shelves (I rented it) so I assumed it was an older release that went out of print. I really wish they would do a proper release of this. I usually don't mind slight changes to picture but this one seems insane to me.

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