Titanic 4K UHD (1997)

[steve_dave]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Wasn't the movie always PG-13? China? Wut?

Sorry, I meant TV and China edits.

[bmick23]

Originally Posted by Bolty

I couldn't find the video link. Lots of videos about the cut but not the actual movie.

Link?

Sent you a PM.

[sperezmore]

Originally Posted by Sidney Prescott

Lovely review from Martin and one that definitely reflects a lot of my own experience watching the film via its 4K disc. I know some might balk at this, but even the streaming version on Apple TV looks impressive. Titanic got a wonderful transfer, and I’m glad the site officially reflects that.

Edit:

I want to add that while I don’t agree it looks “flawless”, it still looks damn great, even with some of its imperfections. Nothing looks flawless, including the reference quality discs some of you likely adore. But that doesn’t mean it can’t be celebrated for what it has given us, which is a whole lotta good. Titanic will go down as a 4K winner, whether some want to admit it or not, and the abundance of positive reviews are rightfully going to support that.

Thank you for your opinion, I could not say this better myself.

Kind regards,

[THF90]

Originally Posted by Sidney Prescott

Lovely review from Martin and one that definitely reflects a lot of my own experience watching the film via its 4K disc. I know some might balk at this, but even the streaming version on Apple TV looks impressive. Titanic got a wonderful transfer, and I’m glad the site officially reflects that.

Edit:

I want to add that while I don’t agree it looks “flawless”, it still looks damn great, even with some of its imperfections. Nothing looks flawless, including the reference quality discs some of you likely adore. But that doesn’t mean it can’t be celebrated for what it has given us, which is a whole lotta good. Titanic will go down as a 4K winner, whether some want to admit it or not, and the abundance of positive reviews are rightfully going to support that.

I’m watching it on my Apple TV 4K and it has some weird filter look to it, but since I have never seen this before the 4k streaming version, I’m assuming it’s never looked filmic?

[Riddhi2011]

Originally Posted by yetanotherone

Not on my watch.

[Show spoiler]

You can put all the fake grain you want on top of it, every time there's motion the image has its detail scrubbed away. Which comes back overexaggerated when the motion stops.

The number of glowing reviews this is getting, it may encourage other filmmakers to also de-grain, sharpen and add fake grain on their films in UHD. I hope better sense prevails among filmmakers and restorers.

Originally Posted by THF90

I’m watching it on my Apple TV 4K and it has some weird filter look to it, but since I have never seen this before the 4k streaming version, I’m assuming it’s never looked filmic?

The Special Edition DVD and the 2012 Blu-ray look more filmic than this one, I feel.

[TheArgentinian]

Where are all the doom-and-gloomers who said it was going to be waxy because of that one single Cameron UHD that existed before this one?! It's getting praised everywhere by people that do this for a living.

[jvonl]

Originally Posted by Riddhi2011

The sheer number of glowing reviews this is getting, I fear, may encourage other filmmakers to also de-grain, sharpen and add fake grain on their films in UHD. I hope better sense prevails among filmmakers and restorers.

Opinions are usually valued, to some degree... but get over yourself. Once wasn't enough?

[THF90]

Originally Posted by TheArgentinian

Where are all the doom-and-gloomers who said it was going to be waxy because of that one single Cameron UHD that existed before this one?! It's getting praised everywhere by people that do this for a living.

That doesn’t change how unnatural the film looks to my eyes.

[bbwiscfan]

and must say I can’t comment on the Atmos yet as I didn’t have it cranked up to my normal level being so late at night so the second viewing I’ll be sure to add to that.

But in my opinion this is a revelation of a transfer. Within the framework of what Cameron chose here, the detail on this is insane to me. Everything is spot on and the picture is sharp and filmic without going into Avatar 4K territory. The colors on this too, my Lord! The bright sunshine lit scenes are the more evident and vibrant and lush while the night time sinking scenes look lovely with proper contrast and shadow detail. If I had one nitpick I noticed is that any time you see the ocean as the ship is moving it looks very fake and artificial now. It’s a minor quibble but one I still noticed due to the uptick here.

But that aside, I agree mileage will vary here for people, and I am not Geoffy (I look forward to seeing his thoughts on this) but for my eyes this is a home run transfer we have here and I can’t wait to watch it again. Easily the best this film has looked on home video.

[By_His_Strypes]

I can't take anyone seriously anymore if they think this disc looks bad. Good Grief Charlie Brown.

[videopat]

Originally Posted by TheArgentinian

Where are all the doom-and-gloomers who said it was going to be waxy because of that one single Cameron UHD that existed before this one?! It's getting praised everywhere by people that do this for a living.

The transfer is incredibly over-processed and unnatural looking.

[Aragorn the Elfstone]

God, that review is depressing.

[JMEANS]

Originally Posted by RYJAPE21

Bubble envelope; thankfully the slip was in perfect condition.

Same! Amazon.com ship has come in! All the way to Ontario Canada! So worth it!

[sperezmore]

Originally Posted by Aragorn the Elfstone

God, that review is depressing.

https://www.hometheaterforum.com/com...4k-uhd.381082/

What do you think about this review? I am curious about your opinion.

Kind regards,

[Rolling Dice]

Originally Posted by TheArgentinian

Where are all the doom-and-gloomers who said it was going to be waxy because of that one single Cameron UHD that existed before this one?! It's getting praised everywhere by people that do this for a living.

Yeah, you can't dispute professional reviews. Never ever. I trust them before I trust my own eyes.

[bmick23]

Originally Posted by bbwiscfan

The colors on this too, my Lord! The bright sunshine lit scenes are the more evident and vibrant and lush while the night time sinking scenes look lovely with proper contrast and shadow detail.

I wish there were a way for everyone to see how this looks on everyone else's displays.

No matter where I pull this up, the highlights and midtones look very green to me. Doesn't matter if it's my TV, projector, phone, laptop or calibrated color grading monitor. Even the scopes show it as leaning green, which tells me it's not a display issue, but it's in the grade itself. Tilting the laptop screen also makes white areas look green, which indicates there is too much green in there. Otherwise a proper white would shift blue.

The only way I've been able to get this film to look right is to manually change the settings on the display toward red to balance it out. The 2005 DVD looks great color-wise, perhaps a tiny bit pink but i'll take that over green any day.

All that said, it's not unwatchable but it's definitely a distraction after watching the VHS/LD/DVD grade for two decades, and suddenly being presented with a new "modern" green color grade in 2012. There is no significant change between the bluray and the 4K version, grade-wise.

[TheArgentinian]

Originally Posted by Bolty

Man, open your eyes they are everywhere. You are literally standing in a minefield of those people.

I wrote that before reading the previous pages

[KMFDMvsEnya]

Originally Posted by Farerb

So what's better? Previous Blu-ray or 4K?

Depends wholly on whether you are more observant about the additional processing or not.

Right now I am favoring the new 4K transfer, even with its caveats, over the original blu-ray.

It does not have to be solely diametric unquestioning hyperbolic praise nor absolute doomsday disregard.

The transfer is quite good but it does not retain "OCN" grain structure, as one can now compare both the OCN open matte frames with the new 4K transfer, and what grain remains is not completely free of DNR artifacts.
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...postcount=3440

And as detailed as it appears to be, it is not resolving the natural detail inherent to the OCN but due to extra processing that likely gathers detail from neighboring frames and the luminosity sharpening.

See peeps, one can be both critical and have a nuanced opinion about something.

[Aragorn the Elfstone]

Originally Posted by sperezmore

https://www.hometheaterforum.com/com...4k-uhd.381082/

What do you think about this review? I am curious about your opinion.

Kind regards,

This comment from Mr. Harris really saddens me.

For the record, I have zero direct knowledge here, but if I'm guessing, I'm seeing de-graining, sharpening and a delicate overlay of what some may see as grain, but appears to be a very light noise pattern.

It works.

John Lowry had a quite extraordinary process toward upscaling, which may be part of this situation. His process, without going "plastic," was able to add real detail and dimensionality. I'm wondering if that process, now at Reliance, may be at the fore here.

My bottom line is that regardless of what digital processes have been used, the final imagery has not gone "plastic." Some shots may be on the verge but don't go there. And without pixel peeping, the release sets certain standards which I believe apply to THIS film, but not to the majority of others.

Call me a purist, whatever. But this isn't what Titanic should look like, and I'm very saddened by what has been done to it for this release.

For those who are fine with it, enjoy away.

[sacrificial_ram]

I also posted the following as a reply to the official thread for the 3D Blu-ray in that subforum, but was thinking it may get more attention and/or a faster response here. If it's not appropriate to cross post, then mods - please delete and accept my apologies.

A random question - does anyone know if the March 2021 Blu-ray release from Paramount is identical to the original Paramount Blu-ray release from September 2012? I'm just referring to the on-disc content. I'm trying to make sure I have all archival bonus features for this film on home video since not EVERYTHING has been included in the new 4K UHD release. And, yes, I know I'll also need to track down a used copy of the 2005 DVD for the "Breaking New Ground" special and the "Press Kit Featurettes", "1912 New Reel", "Titanic Ship’s Tour", and "Interactive Viewing Mode" bonus features