Paramount Makes Move To DTS-HD Master Audio - Page 12 - Blu-ray Forum

davcole · 08-07-2009, 12:58 PM

Don't you sometimes smile about DTSMA and how far it's come? There was a time it was villified by the early adopters cause it wasn't accessible cause none of the players were HDMI 1.3 capable, now it seems to be the populist choice.

saprano · 08-07-2009, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Deciazulado

What do the last 3 dozen posts have to do with Paramount DTS?

Hence me asking why is this thread still open.

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Originally Posted by davcole

Don't you sometimes smile about DTSMA and how far it's come? There was a time it was villified by the early adopters cause it wasn't accessible cause none of the players were HDMI 1.3 capable, now it seems to be the populist choice.

Freekman · 08-07-2009, 04:00 PM

Just by mentioning DTS-HD MA, a large discussion is almost always guaranteed to start. But I think we have reached the conclusion that it doesn't matter at all that Paramount is switching to the format. Just standardizing which lossless audio studios use. It won't change how their future releases sound at all.

Blu-Dog · 08-07-2009, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Guess those Academy Award nominations (nominated by their sound mixing peers mind you) both films received were flukes?

Guess you forgot that the Academy is rating the theater release, not the Blu encodes.

Blu-Dog · 08-07-2009, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Deciazulado

What do the last 3 dozen posts have to do with Paramount DTS?

Their future releases, mostly. It's got everybody freaked out...

PeterTHX · 08-07-2009, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Blu-Dog

Guess you forgot that the Academy is rating the theater release, not the Blu encodes.

The encodes are direct transfers of the theatrical masters. Transformers was verified on another forum by a sound mixer who actually worked on it, who noted that a lot of bass in that film was sent to the main channels and people who didn't have their systems set up correctly would think it didn't have enough bass.

Freekman · 08-08-2009, 02:16 AM

All I know is that lossless audio sounds better than other formats, even if I don't have my speakers properly set up. But the bass has never lacked during a film with great audio for me.

blukrank · 08-08-2009, 11:19 AM

Well I still think Dolby True HD sounds pretty darn good. Transformers on Blu-Ray sounds awsome. Whatever.

Blu-Dog · 08-08-2009, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by PeterTHX

The encodes are direct transfers of the theatrical masters. Transformers was verified on another forum by a sound mixer who actually worked on it, who noted that a lot of bass in that film was sent to the main channels and people who didn't have their systems set up correctly would think it didn't have enough bass.

My comment concerned Iron Man, not Transformers.

PeterTHX · 08-08-2009, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Blu-Dog

My comment concerned Iron Man, not Transformers.

Iron Man is still a direct transfer as well, from the mix created by Skywalker Sound.

davcole · 08-10-2009, 02:04 PM

Add FORREST GUMP to the list.

Mr. Cinema · 08-10-2009, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Sorry to rain on the fanboy parade (actually I'm not sorry) but Paramount is merely distributing this MTV Films critical and box office stink bomb.

It's the same thing with CBS TV, which also authors in DTS-MA (Star Trek: TOS, CSI, etc). Or when other companies author the disc (Criterion: Benjamin Button, Scott Free: Gladiator)

Paramount Pictures is still TrueHD, so we'll be enjoying Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen, Star Trek, etc. in that codec.

What's the reason for Forrest Gump getting DTS HD?

LembasBread · 08-10-2009, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema

What's the reason for Forrest Gump getting DTS HD?

It's part of the marketing package that's called the "Sapphire Edition." The same reason why Gladiator is getting a DTS-HD MA track as well.

Mr. Cinema · 08-10-2009, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by LembasBread

It's part of the marketing package that's called the "Sapphire Edition." The same reason why Gladiator is getting a DTS-HD MA track as well.

What's this based on?

The audio specs for Braveheart, which is also a "Sapphire Series" release, is TrueHD.

davcole · 08-10-2009, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema

What's this based on?

The audio specs for Braveheart, which is also a "Sapphire Series" release, is TrueHD.

I kinda doubt that it's specific to that line, especially given that DANCE FLICK is also DTSMA. This could indicate a future move to DTSMA by the studio for titles not already announced.

ClaytonMG · 08-10-2009, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AnimeOnBlu

I saw a disc scan of CEot3K and both the TrueHD and DTS-HD MA track were 48/24.

He was talking about Fifth Element.

As for Braveheart not having DTS-HD MA, it's probably due to the fact that Braveheart was finished before Paramout went with DTS.

deado · 08-11-2009, 06:25 AM

Well looks like TrueHD may be near-dead soon.... and that might be a good thing. Will probably mean more chance of us getting 7.1 mixes.

Other than Trek 1-6 there are near-zero TrueHD 7.1 tracks.

Buddy Christ · 08-11-2009, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by deado

Well looks like TrueHD may be near-dead soon.... and that might be a good thing. Will probably mean more chance of us getting 7.1 mixes.

Other than Trek 1-6 there are near-zero TrueHD 7.1 tracks.

Wrong!!! Chris Botti with the Boston POPS...oh you said near zero. What does that mean?

Buddy Christ · 08-11-2009, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema

What's this based on?

The audio specs for Braveheart, which is also a "Sapphire Series" release, is TrueHD.

POLITICS!

deado · 08-11-2009, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Blu2U

Wrong!!! Chris Botti with the Boston POPS...oh you said near zero. What does that mean?

Near-zero means I can count on my hands the number of titles which have it.

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08-07-2009, 12:58 PM	#221
davcole Power Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Cincinnati, Oh 4K collection:138 Blu-ray collection:407 Digital collection:25 Blu-ray reviews: 146 Trading Score:9	Don't you sometimes smile about DTSMA and how far it's come? There was a time it was villified by the early adopters cause it wasn't accessible cause none of the players were HDMI 1.3 capable, now it seems to be the populist choice.

08-07-2009, 04:00 PM	#223
Freekman Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2008 Location:New York Home Theater Gallery:7 Blu-ray collection:109 Trading Score:2	Just by mentioning DTS-HD MA, a large discussion is almost always guaranteed to start. But I think we have reached the conclusion that it doesn't matter at all that Paramount is switching to the format. Just standardizing which lossless audio studios use. It won't change how their future releases sound at all.

08-08-2009, 02:16 AM	#227
Freekman Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2008 Location:New York Home Theater Gallery:7 Blu-ray collection:109 Trading Score:2	All I know is that lossless audio sounds better than other formats, even if I don't have my speakers properly set up. But the bass has never lacked during a film with great audio for me.

08-08-2009, 11:19 AM	#228
blukrank Senior Member Member since:Mar 2006 Location:MO Blu-ray collection:224 Blu-ray reviews:5	Well I still think Dolby True HD sounds pretty darn good. Transformers on Blu-Ray sounds awsome. Whatever.

08-10-2009, 02:04 PM	#231
davcole Power Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Cincinnati, Oh 4K collection:138 Blu-ray collection:407 Digital collection:25 Blu-ray reviews: 146 Trading Score:9	Add FORREST GUMP to the list.

08-11-2009, 06:25 AM	#237
deado Senior Member Top contributor Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Australia Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:8	Well looks like TrueHD may be near-dead soon.... and that might be a good thing. Will probably mean more chance of us getting 7.1 mixes. Other than Trek 1-6 there are near-zero TrueHD 7.1 tracks.

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