True Detective (2014-)

[Professor Echo]

Originally Posted by cheez avenger

Oh, and the homages to The Thing and The Shining were awesome in S4.

Outside of general atmosphere, what were the homages exactly?

[cheez avenger]

Originally Posted by Professor Echo

Outside of general atmosphere, what were the homages exactly?

The frozen contorted bodies piled on each other for one. The paranoid ravings by the scientists inside the giant lab running around corridors, etc. There's plenty.

[Professor Echo]

Originally Posted by cheez avenger

The frozen contorted bodies piled on each other for one. The paranoid ravings by the scientists inside the giant lab running around corridors, etc. There's plenty.

The ice cave had a bit of the feel of the maze in THE SHINING as well. Unfortunately, all those allusions did was make me wish I were watching THE THING and THE SHINING instead.

[cheez avenger]

Originally Posted by Professor Echo

The ice cave had a bit of the feel of the maze in THE SHINING as well. Unfortunately, all those allusions did was make me wish I were watching THE THING and THE SHINING instead.

There's a show on MAX that TD: S4 also reminded me of, thematically-wise, called The Head. There are two seasons on there and the first season is excellent. I have not watched the second season yet. It's a Spanish production, with an international cast and it's also multi-lingual with appropriate subtitles.

[Professor Echo]

^^^
Thanks a lot for the recommendation, CA! I'm always up for series and movies set in icy wintry locales (I loved the first season of THE TERROR!). There is so much on streaming these days it's hard to know where to start, so recommendations on this site are always welcome.

[Professor Echo]

Originally Posted by cheez avenger

There's a show on MAX that TD: S4 also reminded me of, thematically-wise, called The Head. There are two seasons on there and the first season is excellent. I have not watched the second season yet. It's a Spanish production, with an international cast and it's also multi-lingual with appropriate subtitles.

Just finished E1 and loved it! Beautiful build up and very compelling suspense. I hope it holds up. Thanks again for steering me to it!

[A Sith Lord?]

Show renewed with Lopez helming it again... that's unfortunate.

[Boccaccio]

Originally Posted by Professor Echo

^^^
Thanks a lot for the recommendation, CA! I'm always up for series and movies set in icy wintry locales (I loved the first season of THE TERROR!). There is so much on streaming these days it's hard to know where to start, so recommendations on this site are always welcome.

Then I would recommend Trapped. It's a show from Iceland.
Apparently there's 3 seasons but I've only seen the first one. That was pretty good.

[spanky87]

While I think it’s stupid to suggest that the positive reviews were paid for, it’s equally stupid for the showrunner to address these claims and engage with the “discourse” on Twitter. A lot of filmmakers these days spend way too much time on social media. It’s embarrassing.

[TsMkLg068426]

Originally Posted by A Sith Lord?

Show renewed with Lopez helming it again... that's unfortunate.

Going to have the lowest viewers ever for TD or people are just going to hate to watch it to see where the trainwreck leads in the new season.

[TsMkLg068426]

Originally Posted by spanky87

While I think it’s stupid to suggest that the positive reviews were paid for, it’s equally stupid for the showrunner to address these claims and engage with the “discourse” on Twitter. A lot of filmmakers these days spend way too much time on social media. It’s embarrassing.

Social Network has ruined everything you cannot have civil conversation anymore. If you have a different opinion, you will get chastised and canceled.

Worst of all people are using Social Network as a news source.

[EvaDK]

S4 turned out to be one of those series I wanted to like more than I did, but it just didn't happen. Too many subplots in the 4 middle episodes that don't really tie into the main mystery. Also, too little investigative detective work depicted in a series that carries the brand of True Detective. Jodie Foster's character often just accidentally stumbles upon someone who knows something and that then drives the plot forward.

The ending is what it is; I kind of figured that we wouldn't get a satisfying conclusion 3-4 episodes in, because little attention was given to that story strand from the writer. The main takeaway as I see it, is the socio-economic/cultural commentary that is sprinkled out everywhere over S4.

I still want word from an insider who worked on this from the start, if it was indeed conceived as a True Detective addition from the start, or whether it was initially developed to be its own independent thing. Because that's what it feels like to me.

[eightslicesofpie]

Originally Posted by TsMkLg068426

Going to have the lowest viewers ever for TD or people are just going to hate to watch it to see where the trainwreck leads in the new season.

Season 4 had the highest viewership ever for the entire series and it kept going up every episode

[DraculaHasRisen]

Originally Posted by A Sith Lord?

Show renewed with Lopez helming it again... that's unfortunate.

Well, if y'all really have a problem then the best way to protest is not watch the next one. Simple as that.

[rainier4000]

Originally Posted by EvaDK

I still want word from an insider who worked on this from the start, if it was indeed conceived as a True Detective addition from the start, or whether it was initially developed to be its own independent thing. Because that's what it feels like to me.

Looks like it was an original idea shoehorned into a True Detective story.

From https://ew.com/true-detective-night-...season-8416223

One thing López didn't want to be compared to, at least at first, was to the first three seasons of True Detective. But, that's because when she envisioned the project originally, it had nothing to do with the show. López says she initially pitched an idea for a project called Night Country, which she describes as "a murder mystery in the ice," and it was HBO who suggested it could be True Detective instead — an idea she says never even crossed her mind. Once the two parties agreed, Night Country became True Detective: Night Country, and López had the unenviable task of "recalling what connected so powerfully with so many people around the world, but at the same time, doing it in your own voice and making it your own."

[jvonl]

Well, this thread has been....interesting. Just finished watching. Short take - I quite enjoyed it. Wasn't put off by the characters, the script, or the supernatural bits. I personally put it near season 1, but that's just me. Not really sure why folks got so wound up about it. I found the story interesting, and the characters and actors as well. That's it; carry on...

[Fiffy]

I like it too. Couldn't wait to watch the next episode.

But holy smokes, is the never-ending darkness depressing. I don't know how people living north of the arctic circle make it through the long polar nights.

[bootsy]

Originally Posted by jvonl

Well, this thread has been....interesting. Just finished watching. Short take - I quite enjoyed it. Wasn't put off by the characters, the script, or the supernatural bits. I personally put it near season 1, but that's just me. Not really sure why folks got so wound up about it. I found the story interesting, and the characters and actors as well. That's it; carry on...

Because the final episode didn't make any sense with what happened before it that's one of the reasons why we didn't love it. I don't know what is hard to understand about that. It's fine that you love the show but questioning why we didn't love the show is

[jvonl]

Originally Posted by bootsy

Because the final episode didn't make any sense with what happened before it that's one of the reasons why we didn't love it. I don't know what is hard to understand about that. It's fine that you love the show but questioning why we didn't love the show is

Sorry you didn't understand it, but I was fine with it. Of course, I went in with no expectations other then to enjoy the ride. Oh well...

[TsMkLg068426]

Originally Posted by bootsy

Because the final episode didn't make any sense with what happened before it that's one of the reasons why we didn't love it. I don't know what is hard to understand about that. It's fine that you love the show but questioning why we didn't love the show is

The ending I got it but people to say it was as good as season one is truly insulting. The first season had a great cast, writing, showrunner, and characters. The first season was also a grounded Detective series the current was not, and the ending was not ****ed up as first season when everything is revealed.


Happy for others who liked this season but for me this season is worse than season two.