The Abyss 4K UHD (1989)

[Croweyes1121]

Originally Posted by yellowcakeuf6

My disc is due to arrive today, so I'm not sure, but does the 2-track have mono surround? This film, surprisingly, was released in Dolby A type with mono surround (70mm blow up), not SR, or with split surrounds.

It’s been established that the DTS-HD MA 5.1 on the BD does, so hopefully that means it’s faithful to the 70mm mix. If so, that’d be my preferred track anyway.

[paulboland]

Originally Posted by jawsfan1975

My copy from DMC had audio issues an hour in so I'm returning/exchanging mine. I made sure my player was up to date with firmware and had to do a hard reboot of my player 3 times last night to make it through the Special Edition Cut. I did not see any scratches on the disc. I tried again this morning and had the same problems.

Have you tried doing a full clean of all of the UHD disc with a dry fiber cloth
Clean from center to edge of the disc you might need to do this a few times.
Also clean inside the amaray case as the residue can transfer from disc to hub area.

New UHD disc have a residue that can’t be seen with a visual inspection.
The residue cause various issues in some UHD players (Some players are more affected than others)
The residue can cause video freezing or audio dropouts and also can cause menu loading issues.

Don’t go by visual inspection of the disc as you can’t see the residue.

[Jutty]

I have a copy of this i need to return to Target, just curious if anyone needs a copy,, rather than me returning it i might be able to help someone out?

[Croweyes1121]

I'm considering replacing the LFE channel on the DTS track with the LFE channel from the Atmos track, since the latter has been getting such raves for its low end response. I did something similar with a custom track I made for Top Gun (in that case, it was the AC-3 laserdisc track coupled with the LFE channel from the DTS mix) and had fantastic results.

EDIT: Ohhohooo buddy. Yep. That’s the way to go. All the tasty subwoofer action of the Atmos track with none of the problems. I’m a happy camper now. The Atmos track should have been perfect as it was, but…at least I’ve got something I can live with now.

[James Luckard]

Originally Posted by yellowcakeuf6

My disc is due to arrive today, so I'm not sure, but does the 2-track have mono surround? This film, surprisingly, was released in Dolby A type with mono surround (70mm blow up), not SR, or with split surrounds.

Don't know, sorry.

[jblank]

Would anyone like my Digital Code for Movies Anywhere of the 4K The Abyss? I bought it digitally when it first became available months ago and I don't need the one that came with the 4K disc. Please only ask for it if you want to watch it, not sell it.

Just post here and the first to post will get it PM'ed to them.

[Kinsella5]

Originally Posted by jblank

Would anyone like my Digital Code for Movies Anywhere of the 4K The Abyss? I bought it digitally when it first became available months ago and I don't need the one that came with the 4K disc. Please only ask for it if you want to watch it, not sell it.

Just post here and the first to post will get it PM'ed to them.

I could use it if you still have.

[jblank]

Originally Posted by Kinsella5

I could use it if you still have.

PM'ing it to you now.

[Ulisez]

Originally Posted by HorrorBlu

Watched the special edition last night. Zero issues on my Panasonic.

Was surprised they didn't crop out the guy getting panted during the tidal wave, but still there. Lol.

During it's re-release screening last year when that scene happened, there was some chuckles from the audience. Even I was like, really Jimbo. You didn't fix that lol!

[tankryankr19]

Originally Posted by HorrorBlu

Was surprised they didn't crop out the guy getting panted during the tidal wave, but still there. Lol.

Did James crop it out in previous releases?

[jawsfan1975]

Originally Posted by paulboland

Have you tried doing a full clean of all of the UHD disc with a dry fiber cloth
Clean from center to edge of the disc you might need to do this a few times.
Also clean inside the amaray case as the residue can transfer from disc to hub area.

New UHD disc have a residue that can’t be seen with a visual inspection.
The residue cause various issues in some UHD players (Some players are more affected than others)
The residue can cause video freezing or audio dropouts and also can cause menu loading issues.

Don’t go by visual inspection of the disc as you can’t see the residue.

Unfortunately, no luck with the dry fiber cloth. The disc plays perfectly until the 1:02 mark just after the crane crashes.

[HorrorBlu]

Originally Posted by tankryankr19

Did James crop it out in previous releases?

No, but the last release was when? DVD circa 2000?

It happens right at the bottom of the frame and would have been easy to matte out, and with some 4K releases editing out goofs and crew member cameos like Poltergeist, it wouldn't have surprised me.

I'm glad it's still there, it adds to the charm of the movie, lol.

[Brian81]

Opened Amazon disc and yay, another return. Circumferential scratches on the 4K disc.

[captainsolo]

Originally Posted by wright96d

https://slow.pics/c/wVhy4YKP

Please forgive me for my spreading of lies and misinformation. I finally had the idea to run a stereo downmix of the 5.1 on the Blu-ray and compare it to the 2.0 on the 4K, and it would appear that the 2.0 on the 4K is in fact a downmix of the 5.1 on the BD. However - H O W E V E R - the 5.1 on the Blu-ray is actually 4.1, with duplicated mono surrounds, as I pointed out further up thread, so as long as they encoded it as Dolby Surround, it should be a fair approximation of the original mix. (minus the noise reduction and EQ and brickwall limiting and yadayadayada) Unfortunately I have no idea how to tell that. I don't know how to decode a Dolby Surround track on a computer.

The original 2.0 matrix mix was first done for the extended cut's premiere on the LD boxset. That was around for several years before they did the ac3 5.1 upmix on the CLV LD reissue which then got ported to the DVD. It doesn't surprise me that all of these seem to be a hodgepodge of different iterations of that master hit with varying degree of processing, noise reduction and then put into varying formats.
All I can say is that to my ears the LD boxset 2.0 matrix still sounds the best. The 5.1 ac3 is very similar but that era of 5.1 upmixes could often introduce goofs, errors or other mixing stuff that makes the original 2.0 matrix preferable.

Originally Posted by yellowcakeuf6

My disc is due to arrive today, so I'm not sure, but does the 2-track have mono surround? This film, surprisingly, was released in Dolby A type with mono surround (70mm blow up), not SR, or with split surrounds.

Most 70mm films didn't have split surrounds and SR was sporadic in its usage for 1989. It was a hit or miss thing and the in70mm.com list of releases by year is a good indicator of which films had split surrounds or not. Also with The Abyss in particular you have to look at the theatrical mixes separately from the home versions because the extended cut was completed for the LD boxset. That mix was done around the home video Dolby surround matrix system of the time much like the extended cut of T2 or the 1993 Star Wars Definitive Collection mixes. All of those still sound great (and FAR better than remixes or most mixes of today) but they aren't technically theatrical nor are they done by theatrical parameters.

[Dr. T]

Originally Posted by captainsolo

Also with The Abyss in particular you have to look at the theatrical mixes separately from the home versions because the extended cut was completed for the LD boxset.

The Abyss Special Edition was completed on film and had prints made that screened theatrically prior to the LD release.

[Mierzwiak]

[Old Bones]

Originally Posted by jawsfan1975

Unfortunately, no luck with the dry fiber cloth. The disc plays perfectly until the 1:02 mark just after the crane crashes.

I sometimes do a warm water rinse , worked a time or two.

[dommie]

Just watched my copy of The Abyss. Thankfully, I had no issues as the disc played fine without incident.

[cochon]

Originally Posted by Mierzwiak

Ok, Ive just watched the video, if that was left in it might turn me into a buyer just for those two seconds, lol.

[UnionJackMix]

Some people are selling this for 100$. I mean, is this because of the o-card/slip or because they want to make people believe it was a one-time pressing? Or because they know some people want to watch this so bad before as second pressing is made available?