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Old 08-13-2009, 08:29 PM   #1
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I didn't find it distracting at all that no one around him "seemed to care that he was aging backwards" as the social aspects of his condition were not what the movie was about, we don't know that people didn't find it exceedingly odd, Fincher chooses not to show us those parts of his life.
As for the "spitting in the face of the arrow of time", really? This movie is fiction, somewhat of a fantasy, so who cares if it doesn't play by real world rules. You want real life? We're living in it, movies are a way for us to experience things that are fantastic, things that could never happen and so we can say "what would I have done in that situation?" "what would my life have been like if that was me, would I have made the most of it?" and hopefully at the end we can take things from it and apply to our own lives and hopefully become better people. Yes, action movies and such are meant to entertain our eyes with explosions and dazzling effects but movies like this are meant to make you think, and it certainly has made me think. I do like some of Fincher's other films but this is his best without doubt.
I fail to see anything "brazen" abut the storytelling of the movie. I understand that not everyone likes the same thing but I have a feeling some people have completely missed the point the filmmakers were trying to make. One has to have some emotional maturity to understand the themes, men who are still children probably can't see things that deep. I wouldn't suggest that younger people watch this film as most of the themes are not intended for young people who've not experienced loss, love, tragedy. I hate to always bring up age in regards to love of film but it's a factor, no doubt in my mind. Young people see the world differently than older people, stands to reason they'd like different movies, oh and the research has pretty much proven it so for the young people here (and I know there are tons, too many IMO) don't get all uppity and mad at me for saying the truth.
hmmm interesting....
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Old 08-14-2009, 12:25 AM   #2
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hmmm interesting....
Speaking truth doesn't make me a bad person, as it's clear that is what you're implying. Can't stand the sampled quoting that runs rampant at this place.

It's a fact that younger people think differently than older people, I urge anyone to dispute that.

Also a fact that men in a state of arrested development are essentially still children and as such have a younger sensibility.

Last, I don't think it makes me a bad person to say I'm not a fan of younger people, though I myself was one and was probably as annoying and self interested as the ones I see polluting the forum, and the world in general.

What matters to me, and how I judge myself is how I treat those who matter in my life, my daughter, my family, my friends, my lady and my coworkers. When I die there is not a doubt in my mind that all of them will say "he was a good man" and they won't be killing birds with their noses by saying it. My question to you surfdude, and to all of you in general, is can you say the same? If so then good on you, if not take a look at yourself and realize it's never too late to change.

Not often that a film affects me the way this one did, 5 days later and I'm still going through it in my head. Amazing achievement.
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Old 08-14-2009, 04:38 PM   #3
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Speaking truth doesn't make me a bad person, as it's clear that is what you're implying. Can't stand the sampled quoting that runs rampant at this place.

It's a fact that younger people think differently than older people, I urge anyone to dispute that.

Also a fact that men in a state of arrested development are essentially still children and as such have a younger sensibility.

Last, I don't think it makes me a bad person to say I'm not a fan of younger people, though I myself was one and was probably as annoying and self interested as the ones I see polluting the forum, and the world in general.

What matters to me, and how I judge myself is how I treat those who matter in my life, my daughter, my family, my friends, my lady and my coworkers. When I die there is not a doubt in my mind that all of them will say "he was a good man" and they won't be killing birds with their noses by saying it. My question to you surfdude, and to all of you in general, is can you say the same? If so then good on you, if not take a look at yourself and realize it's never too late to change.

Not often that a film affects me the way this one did, 5 days later and I'm still going through it in my head. Amazing achievement.
wow, i said nothing. i never said you were a bad person, and didn't imply it. that may have come from somewhere else...
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Speaking truth doesn't make me a bad person, as it's clear that is what you're implying. Can't stand the sampled quoting that runs rampant at this place.

It's a fact that younger people think differently than older people, I urge anyone to dispute that.

Also a fact that men in a state of arrested development are essentially still children and as such have a younger sensibility.

Last, I don't think it makes me a bad person to say I'm not a fan of younger people, though I myself was one and was probably as annoying and self interested as the ones I see polluting the forum, and the world in general.

What matters to me, and how I judge myself is how I treat those who matter in my life, my daughter, my family, my friends, my lady and my coworkers. When I die there is not a doubt in my mind that all of them will say "he was a good man" and they won't be killing birds with their noses by saying it. My question to you surfdude, and to all of you in general, is can you say the same? If so then good on you, if not take a look at yourself and realize it's never too late to change.

Not often that a film affects me the way this one did, 5 days later and I'm still going through it in my head. Amazing achievement.

LOL!! Sorry, but i think a truer test of character is how a person treats people who don't necessarily "matter" in their day to day lives. Like say, complete strangers on an internet forum.
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Speaking truth doesn't make me a bad person, as it's clear that is what you're implying. Can't stand the sampled quoting that runs rampant at this place.

It's a fact that younger people think differently than older people, I urge anyone to dispute that.

Also a fact that men in a state of arrested development are essentially still children and as such have a younger sensibility.

Last, I don't think it makes me a bad person to say I'm not a fan of younger people, though I myself was one and was probably as annoying and self interested as the ones I see polluting the forum, and the world in general.

What matters to me, and how I judge myself is how I treat those who matter in my life, my daughter, my family, my friends, my lady and my coworkers. When I die there is not a doubt in my mind that all of them will say "he was a good man" and they won't be killing birds with their noses by saying it. My question to you surfdude, and to all of you in general, is can you say the same? If so then good on you, if not take a look at yourself and realize it's never too late to change.

Not often that a film affects me the way this one did, 5 days later and I'm still going through it in my head. Amazing achievement.
sorry, missed your question in my first post. i don't even think about that question, it makes no difference what people think of me. it only matters what i think of myself. why? because if i think good of myself, i can only do good to others. if i think bad of myself, i can only do bad to others. just is my sincere belief, you are welcome to disagree.

i would disagree with your statement bolded above: IMO, how one sees himelf determines how he sees EVERYONE, not just a select few. if he wakes up feeling bad about himself, he'll lash out at someone, it may be a spouse, a child, or some generic social age group. if he wakes up feeling great about himself, he won't lash out at anyone.
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