Rocky I-VI 4K Collection (1976-2006)

[dcx4610]

Finally got around to Rocky vs. Drago tonight. I really enjoyed it and think it's a superior cut of the movie. It plays a lot more in tone with Rocky 1 and 2 and a drama whereas the theatrical feels like an action movie.

The added scenes really give the movie more depth. It's crazy how much material Stallone had. It was like watching a brand new movie with all of the scenes, different angles and edits. And who doesn't like a FULL "No Easy Way Out" montage?

I do think he trimmed out some good parts though and he really did a hatchet job to almost everything with Brigitte Nielsen. I always liked the scene of her telling Apollo's wife that she hopes they can be friends after and always though that line was cold so I'm sad to see that gone.

Other than that and a few minor things, I think it will be my go to cut when I'm in the mood for Rocky IV. After skimming through, the video quality is also much better on the RvD cut over the theatrical.

I'm looking forward to the Director's Cut of Rocky Balboa next after I slog through Rocky V,

[y2jman]

well it seems despite still sold by gruv walmart website i see jack up price 89.99 last few days that is showing on ebay griv basically price matching amazon with 104.79 4k boxset

i haven't been out of the house all week yet i hope maybe tomorrow or thurs friday despite still waiting on sorry replacement discs that still haven't gotten yet again if magically get it by friday or mon then don't need to buy new rocky 4k boxset only rocky 5, balboa 4k steelboks

i already got issue with walmart right now anyways risky business 4k despite i used 25 promo code last night with that and fall guy 4k the fall guy got shipped for tomorrow

whereas risky was stuck in preparing all day long while every few hours it kept going from in stock to out of stock in stock out of stock etc etc etc<-seems now staying out of stock then get sorry email saying delay

am not sure they will cancel tomorrow or it will still be shipped then i have to think about if i should wait end of week see come back in stock reorder or order off amazon

anyways back to new rocky 4k boxset am not sure if i still try to go walmart give them 50 in cash for a gift card<-am not sure balance might go up little bit towards boxset or just order ebay gruv and pay 98.76 meh

[jmorrow5]

Originally Posted by dcx4610

After skimming through, the video quality is also much better on the RvD cut over the theatrical.

The RvD cut is a hideous DNR nightmare. Compression issues aside, at least the theatrical cut still resembles film. 2.35:1 also feels out of place when the rest of the franchise is 1.85:1. I would easily trade the RvD cut on the Rocky IV disc for a more competently encoded theatrical cut.

[x5gb]

that 2.35:1 decision by Stallone wasn’t one of his better decisions. Funny thing is when he previewed the final cut in his home theater at his previous property he watched it in 1.85:1 so what made him think the rest of us would want to see it in a cropped form.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Jack Priest

The continuity in this franchise in regards to time passing is so messed up lol lts almost like The Simpsons or something, except with The Simpsons, time progresses and characters stay the same, but with Rocky it's like time is slowed right down even though the characters age like normal. You get comments about the wedding anniversary and it's been x many years since this or that but it never adds up. Usually caused by most of the sequels immediately following on from the end of the previous movie. Time passes, but it doesn't. Rocky V is the one that was the biggest headscratcher though. When I saw it for the first time and the kid appears, I couldn't believe my eyes haha

It's not just the kid tho, if we take it as read that Rocky IV takes place in the year it was released then where the hell did 1985 go in Rocky V? Edit: hell, where did the '80s go? It's just gloriously goofy all round.

[SpacemanDoug]

Originally Posted by Vindicator89

I got my set in from E-Bay and it was shipped in a box and with bubble wrap. It's sad that sellers on e-bay are doing better packaging that major companies like Amazon or Gruv. It arrived in pristine condition and I paid less than on either site. Now, if I am reading things correctly this does have the corrected discs right? And if that is the case why in the world is the 5.1 audio track for Rocky so anemic? It honestly might be the weakest 5.1 track I have ever heard. Did Rocky just have weak audio and I forgot about it? I mean I had to go to the second audio option which isn't even a full proper recreation of the original mix. But even that sounded miles better.

If the "original" mix on the first Rocky has separation and is not dual mono then it's the faulty disk, but yes the the remix for Rocky has always sucked, almost all remixes of mono tracks do

Considering you got it from a seller off of ebay then it's likely you have the faulty one, at least regarding the 1-4 collection which you never specified which set you acquired

[darichestman]

Originally Posted by sojrner

The response today:

Thanks I tried putting In the code for the ultimate edition and it didn’t worked

[TylerDurden389]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

It's not just the kid tho, if we take it as read that Rocky IV takes place in the year it was released then where the hell did 1985 go in Rocky V? Edit: hell, where did the '80s go? It's just gloriously goofy all round.

FR. If Rocky 5 is only about a year later, the soundtrack shouldn't have been current-day EDM, it should've still been hair metal/power ballads, lol. The edit I have that added the caption "1 Year Later" Probably should've been 5 instead.

As for where did the 80's go, most people say Grunge killed the music, and Tarentino killed the action movies (funny dialogue without gratuitous violence). I actually think Terminator 2 killed it since it was an action movie that was made seriously and could be taken seriously. Given it was the highest grossing film of the year (and possibly of all time back then) it only stands to reason that Hollywood would shift away from the formula that was already tired by that point to begin with. Funny thing is that Van damme and Seagal soldiered on for a few more years while Stallone and Schwarzenegger were barely hanging on by a thread (Last Action Hero was Arnie's first bomb, and Sly would join him with Judge Dredd a few years later).

Funny thing is when I watch seasons 4 & 5 of Miami Vice, I can tell that whatever people associate as "The 80's" was already on its way out. Had the show continued, it would've probably just been like other copycats during the early 90's ("Silk Stalkings" comes to mind).

[Dotpattern]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

It's not just the kid tho, if we take it as read that Rocky IV takes place in the year it was released then where the hell did 1985 go in Rocky V? Edit: hell, where did the '80s go? It's just gloriously goofy all round.

I've decided to write a novel called Rocky IV.II that will explain away the continuity of Robert's age. In my novel, when Rocky returns from Russia, as seen in Rocky V, he is actually returning from the REMATCH fight with Drago. In my novel, Rocky comes home, is invited to the White House, and given a medal for bringing an end to the cold war.

5 years later, things go bad when Adrienne is kidnapped by Drago's russian henchmen. They hold her hostage in Russia and demand Rocky come back for a rematch. With no time to prepare, Rocky tells Paulie to ask his accountant for a tax extension and takes off for Russia. 3 training montages later, Rocky is ready for the fight, which ends of course with Rocky winning by knock out in the last round. Adrienne is returned to Rocky and they celebrate in the middle of the ring with all of Russia chanting, "Rocky! Rocky! Rocky!" Drago is carried off and thrown into a nearby ally, where Ludmilla tells him she is pregnant and wants a divorce. Adrienne says, "Let's go home" and Rocky replies, "First, I need a shower, Mick." Adrienne looks concerned but smiles anyway. The end.

Or is it?

[stackerboy99]

Originally Posted by sojrner

The response today:

I was going to ask about this since I was having trouble redeeming the code but it's nice to know I wasn't the only one and it is being worked on.

[DRC72]

Just watched Rocky 2 and I thought the 4K transfer was quite good. Especially the outside shots and the fight scenes as well. Of course there was plenty of grain to go around.The DTS HD MA 5.1 track has no issues, and sounds great.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by TylerDurden389

FR. If Rocky 5 is only about a year later, the soundtrack shouldn't have been current-day EDM, it should've still been hair metal/power ballads, lol. The edit I have that added the caption "1 Year Later" Probably should've been 5 instead.

As for where did the 80's go, most people say Grunge killed the music, and Tarentino killed the action movies (funny dialogue without gratuitous violence). I actually think Terminator 2 killed it since it was an action movie that was made seriously and could be taken seriously. Given it was the highest grossing film of the year (and possibly of all time back then) it only stands to reason that Hollywood would shift away from the formula that was already tired by that point to begin with. Funny thing is that Van damme and Seagal soldiered on for a few more years while Stallone and Schwarzenegger were barely hanging on by a thread (Last Action Hero was Arnie's first bomb, and Sly would join him with Judge Dredd a few years later).

Funny thing is when I watch seasons 4 & 5 of Miami Vice, I can tell that whatever people associate as "The 80's" was already on its way out. Had the show continued, it would've probably just been like other copycats during the early 90's ("Silk Stalkings" comes to mind).

Yeah it wasn't a philosophical rumination, I was still saying that re: Rocky V

[deafeddie]

Rocky Balboa is now up on FAH in 4K. Rocky V is still only HDX.

[Jack Priest]

Originally Posted by x5gb

that 2.35:1 decision by Stallone wasn’t one of his better decisions. Funny thing is when he previewed the final cut in his home theater at his previous property he watched it in 1.85:1 so what made him think the rest of us would want to see it in a cropped form.

The crop is by far what pisses me off the most with the 2021 recut. It's so cramped, it looks horrible in several places. Some of it looks good, but not enough. I think the tighter framing does fit the movie in terms of tone and style, but the captured footage does not work being cropped down to that extent. A 2:1 aspect ratio like Jurassic World would have been much, much better; Tighter than the Theatrical Cut, but it wouldn't look stupid as a lot of moments in the final version look.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Jack Priest

The crop is by far what pisses me off the most with the 2021 recut. It's so cramped, it looks horrible in several places. Some of it looks good, but not enough. I think the tighter framing does fit the movie in terms of tone and style, but the captured footage does not work being cropped down to that extent. A 2:1 aspect ratio like Jurassic World would have been much, much better; Tighter than the Theatrical Cut, but it wouldn't look stupid as a lot of moments in the final version look.

In all honesty it didn't bovver me. I'm normally one to b!tch up a storm about AR changes but, as with the (tasteful) DNR, the fact that there's a 1.85 version provided (albeit of the theatrical cut) makes me feel a bit less antagonistic towards those choices. And that's the crux of it really, just give us the choice of new cuts or old, new audio or old, and my god the traffic on this forum would halve overnight. It wouldn't disappear completely as long as studios (and indies that rhyme with Dino) are still pumping out godawful encodes, but it'd be a start.

[sojrner]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

[Show spoiler]In all honesty it didn't bovver me. I'm normally one to b!tch up a storm about AR changes but, as with the (tasteful) DNR, the fact that there's a 1.85 version provided (albeit of the theatrical cut) makes me feel a bit less antagonistic towards those choices. And that's the crux of it really, just give us the choice of new cuts or old, new audio or old, and my god the traffic on this forum would halve overnight.

It wouldn't disappear completely as long as studios (and indies that rhyme with Dino) are still pumping out godawful encodes, but it'd be a start.

Deye-know... die-naw... Dih-nuh... man, this is hard.

What about Fill Beak or Lucio Pannal? (I guess that last one might fall under the "studio" umbrella )

[bongozoid]

Originally Posted by BladeRunner2007

I wish I'd enjoy his director's cut as much as you do. The only one I feel that is truly a huge improvement over the theatrical cut is his director's cut of The Expendables.

Interesting. I thought that had the same problems as Rock V Drago and I much prefer the theatrical version.

[emailking]

Mine came from Gruv but Rocky III disc is all scratched up and other discs have a few scratches, no idea why. I don't think it's a return because it came 2 days after the release day. But I'm pissed because I'm not planning to watch these until November and I guess I'll have no idea if some of these won't play until then. I may have to end up renting a stream if Rocky 3 or another one freezes, uggh.

[mclellandj]

Originally Posted by deafeddie

Rocky Balboa is now up on FAH in 4K. Rocky V is still only HDX.

Code still doesn't work fyi

[sojrner]

Originally Posted by mclellandj

Code still doesn't work fyi

Yup. WB hasn't sent me an update to tell me it's fixed yet, so that doesn't surprise.