Gladiator (2000) - Page 111 - Blu-ray Forum

banned user105 · 09-03-2009, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Philnerd

Were this a Sony or Warner release we'd have absolutely gotten it

But Paramount gave us a perfectly beautiful transfer of Braveheart, so....

Mokus76 · 09-03-2009, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by doctorthodt

But Paramount gave us a perfectly beautiful transfer of Braveheart, so....

I dont have Braveheart yet, but I can only imagine, especially when Gladiator was so beautiful for me at least. I dont know about the rest of the World

Mokus76 · 09-03-2009, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by STARSCREAM

You better throw the PS3 in there, SERIOUSLY!!! I have compared it up against stand alones and it exceeded every single one of them.
also, I think you just opened up a whole can of worms.

Yes I did open up a whole can of worms, and its yummy LOL

Philnerd · 09-03-2009, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by NutsAboutPS3

Please see my post above. There is nothing wrong with the master used for the HDTV broadcast. Look at the two pictures I posted links to and see if you still think it needs a new transfer.

Well we're assuming that Universal didn't permanently bake in the DNR/EE and object removal. For all we know the Blu-Ray represents what is now the studio's only digital master. Honestly nothing would surprise me at this point.

aramis109 · 09-03-2009, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Petri Teittinen

Utter and complete nonsense. You very obviously don't have a clue.

You are not supposed to, period. Set the player for 24p out, leave all settings to zero, disable all "image enhancing" features and view the movie on a properly calibrated display, the settings of which you do not adjust to suit each and every movie.

You mean "what my Panasonic BD30 did" because Denon 2500 is the exact same player inside. A cheap Panny, in other words. I guess it's you who has no idea of what they're doing.

Again, bullcrap. You've bought into marketing, hype, fancy technical terms and the "bigger number must prove it's better" school of thinking.

'nuff said. Case closed.

Well said- was getting ready to say the same things in rebuttal. Anyone who says they can't see the EE on this title either is sitting too far away or doesn't have their equipment set up correctly. I still enjoy the film and it's a definite upgrade over the DVD but I'm disappointed in it.

Seriously, Mokus- quit espousing your purchases as being better than everyone else's because they cost more. I've seen plenty of Kuro owners in this thread that can't see EE apparently, and all that means to me is that they spent too much money on their set.

Jimbo976 · 09-03-2009, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by NutsAboutPS3

Please see my post above. There is nothing wrong with the master used for the HDTV broadcast. Look at the two pictures I posted links to and see if you still think it needs a new transfer.

You are personally certain that there exists a full beginning to end master that is good enough to make a Blu-ray with that is top quality? Have you seen this master? I'm pretty sure we're all just guessing here.

There has got to be some reason why we got what we got.

banned user105 · 09-03-2009, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbo976

You are personally certain that there exists a full beginning to end master that is good enough to make a Blu-ray with that is top quality? Have you seen this master? I'm pretty sure we're all just guessing here.

There has got to be some reason why we got what we got.

Somebody over on AVS Forums a few days ago said that he heard from some insiders that there is a really good 1080p master that was meant to be used for an HD-DVD release a while back. Unsure whether it's true or not.

Deadset · 09-03-2009, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SDon1969

You saved me some typing - I agree with all your comments. After all the prerelease negativity, I was skeptical. But Gladiator looks good and sounds great, and I was not disappointed. I didn't see the halo effect as well as others and I couldn't really tell by the PQ which scenes were extended ones(on my Sammy 40" LCD 1080p). The review here at bluray.com is quite accurate in my estimation.

Nice summary SDon. I should have added in my writeup, totally worth 7.99

ScarredLungs · 09-03-2009, 01:32 PM

There is only 1 questions that have to be asked, and none of them have to do with Patton. In fact, it is a very personal question based one's point of view.

1-Will I buy Gladiator?

Imao, the PQ is not reference quality, but it is by no means utterly terrible.

Mokus76 · 09-03-2009, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by aramis109

Well said- was getting ready to say the same things in rebuttal. Anyone who says they can't see the EE on this title either is sitting too far away or doesn't have their equipment set up correctly. I still enjoy the film and it's a definite upgrade over the DVD but I'm disappointed in it.

Seriously, Mokus- quit espousing your purchases as being better than everyone else's because they cost more. I've seen plenty of Kuro owners in this thread that can't see EE apparently, and all that means to me is that they spent too much money on their set.

All I am saying is why do you think a Panasonic is better then a Denon?
Why is everyone comparing Panasonic to Denon, Marantz etc.?
Thats like comparing a Ford Fiesta to a Ferrari.
I owned alot of brands before Denon, even Pioneer Elite, Sony ES etc. and at this moment in time I am staying with Denon for a long time to come.
If you like Panny's go for it, but dont complain when you cant play your movies cause you need a firmware update or something else happens during a movie viewing.
I am not the one who is Brainwashed, I know what I see and hear!!!

benricci · 09-03-2009, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbo976

You are personally certain that there exists a full beginning to end master that is good enough to make a Blu-ray with that is top quality? Have you seen this master? I'm pretty sure we're all just guessing here.

Master or not, they could always go back to the original film negative and re-scan it. I mean this happens all the time when old masters are deemed sub-standard for new formats. It's nothing new, I'm just not sure why it wasn't done in this case if it's so obvious the old master was not up to par.

benricci · 09-03-2009, 01:45 PM

We now return to the Gladiator thread, already in progress...

ScarredLungs · 09-03-2009, 01:53 PM

*****BACK TO THE GLADIATOR THREAD**********

For those of you who have watched Gladiator what did you think of the PQ?

I thought it was good, but not great. It was not as bad as the hype would have my believe.

Mokus76 · 09-03-2009, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by cvm

*****BACK TO THE GLADIATOR THREAD**********

For those of you who have watched Gladiator what did you think of the PQ?

I thought it was good, but not great. It was not as bad as the hype would have my believe.

Thank You, I agree with you 100%

benricci · 09-03-2009, 01:58 PM

Enough with this crap. Either discuss Gladiator or go have your playground slap fight somewhere else, guys.

Philnerd · 09-03-2009, 02:00 PM

Hey what ever happened to that Gladiator thread?

bandit29 · 09-03-2009, 02:03 PM

And the battle rages on..

Gladiator...should have and could have looked better. For a high profile release, it's disappointing. Still a great movie though.

Blu-Runner · 09-03-2009, 02:03 PM

Thanks, Paramount. You see what you've done now?

tau31 · 09-03-2009, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Petri Teittinen

Sounds like something to do with the seamless branching. What player do you use? That Samsung 1500 in your sig?

Yeah I have the Samsung 1500. I watched Shawshank last night and it ran perfectly, it has to be disc compatibility issues. Certain scenes just pause like if the chapter was changing, it must have something to do with the extended edition. I haven't watched the theatrical on Blu-ray. Only the extended. I'm guessing when the extended scene is comingup the system pauses to find the right file.

Jimbo976 · 09-03-2009, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by benricci

Master or not, they could always go back to the original film negative and re-scan it. I mean this happens all the time when old masters are deemed sub-standard for new formats. It's nothing new, I'm just not sure why it wasn't done in this case if it's so obvious the old master was not up to par.

Exactly. If one does not exist already they should have made a new one. Some people claim to know what does and doesn't exist though and there is likely no way for anyone here to know.

It would be interesting to know the reason why they used an old one. Was it just the cost to make a new one or was there more to it than that?

09-03-2009, 01:45 PM	#2212
benricci Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Sep 2008 Blu-ray reviews:1	We now return to the Gladiator thread, already in progress... Last edited by benricci; 09-03-2009 at 01:57 PM.

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09-03-2009, 01:32 PM	#2209
ScarredLungs Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Utah 4K collection:65 Blu-ray collection:1433 Prime collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:4	There is only 1 questions that have to be asked, and none of them have to do with Patton. In fact, it is a very personal question based one's point of view. 1-Will I buy Gladiator? Imao, the PQ is not reference quality, but it is by no means utterly terrible.

09-03-2009, 01:53 PM	#2213
ScarredLungs Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Utah 4K collection:65 Blu-ray collection:1433 Prime collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:4	***BACK TO THE GLADIATOR THREAD******** For those of you who have watched Gladiator what did you think of the PQ? I thought it was good, but not great. It was not as bad as the hype would have my believe.

09-03-2009, 01:58 PM	#2215
benricci Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Sep 2008 Blu-ray reviews:1	Enough with this crap. Either discuss Gladiator or go have your playground slap fight somewhere else, guys.

09-03-2009, 02:00 PM	#2216
Philnerd Banned Member since:Sep 2007	Hey what ever happened to that Gladiator thread?

09-03-2009, 02:03 PM	#2217
bandit29 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Chicago, IL Blu-ray collection:88 DVD collection:17 MA collection:3 Digital collection:117 Prime collection:1	And the battle rages on.. Gladiator...should have and could have looked better. For a high profile release, it's disappointing. Still a great movie though.

09-03-2009, 02:03 PM	#2218
Blu-Runner Expert Member Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:85 Blu-ray collection:203 DVD collection:3 Trading Score:16	Thanks, Paramount. You see what you've done now?

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