What are some movies with a great concept but poor execution?

[ImBlu_DaBaDee]

In Time (2011)

That movie was shot by Roger Deakins, and from the writer of The Truman Show. And while I still enjoy it, it doesn’t live up to the potential of its concept or the beauty of its cinematography at all.

[filmbuffTX]

Downsizing (2017)



It's okay, but there's so much more you could do with the premise and this longish two hour plus movie just doesn't satisfy. The filmmaking and cast are good, but it needs a different script. A series would be interesting and may better fit the material.

[VictoryAtNight]

[anomaly7]

The Happening. Interesting concept, but not executed well, and the poor casting choices didn't help. Maybe somebody can do something with that idea in the future for a better film.

[moreorless]

Originally Posted by ImBlu_DaBaDee

In Time (2011)

That movie was shot by Roger Deakins, and from the writer of The Truman Show. And while I still enjoy it, it doesn’t live up to the potential of its concept or the beauty of its cinematography at all.

The same guy who wrote and directed Gattca and Lord of War as well.

It does end up as a bit of a generic thriller which is just happy to play with the basic concept of the counting clock, doesnt ever really reach for anything more than that as he did previously.

It does seem to me that post Lord of War Niccol became a bit more of a gun for hire director/writter and really this was a a film were Timblerlake being pushed as a star by the studio was the main intension. The kind of thing which would end up on a streaming service these days pushing an actor they had signed to a long term deal.

[veritas]

The last jedi

bring back luke after hyping him up the whole previous movie but then ruin everything people love about the characters. Even Mark Hamill was disappointed with the execution of that film.

[Martoto]

Originally Posted by veritas

The last jedi

bring back luke after hyping him up the whole previous movie but then ruin everything people love about the characters. Even Mark Hamill was disappointed with the execution of that film.

So you're saying you were fine with the concept of the reclusive Luke, feeling despondent, guilty and responsible for his nephew's fall to the dark side and reluctant to train Rey, or any more Jedi, for fear of bringing more calamity to the galaxy than he feels he already has. (all of which was already mentioned in The Force Awakens, by the way)

[veritas]

Originally Posted by Martoto

So you're saying you were fine with the concept of the reclusive Luke, feeling despondent, guilty and responsible for his nephew's fall to the dark side and reluctant to train Rey, or any more Jedi, for fear of bringing more calamity to the galaxy than he feels he already has. (all of which was already mentioned in The Force Awakens, by the way)

Not my take on the force awakens . I would also hate your version of the force awakens i guess

[Martoto]

Originally Posted by veritas

Not my take on the force awakens . I would also hate your version of the force awakens i guess

The Force Awakens literally tells us that Luke had a pupil who turned to the dark side and destroyed his academy. Luke had blamed himself, turned his back on everything, and walked off into the wilderness. What did folk expect? Luke to be clicking his heels and whistling yub-nub out of his arseh-le?

[MATBAN96]

Originally Posted by veritas

The last jedi

bring back luke after hyping him up the whole previous movie but then ruin everything people love about the characters. Even Mark Hamill was disappointed with the execution of that film.

As flawed as The Last Jedi is, I still think it's the best of the sequel trilogy.

[jess1581]

The Last Jedi is *chef's kiss in terms of execution.

[Martoto]

Originally Posted by jess1581

The Last Jedi is *chef's kiss in terms of execution.

It's really, really good. I feel like another draft would have made it even better. There's deleted stuff (mostly on Ahch To) which I wish had remained and could have done so with another pass that integrated them into the scenes that were kept in.

[starmike]

Originally Posted by Martoto

It's really, really good.

I fail to see what's good about it. Hell, the first 10 minutes are a disaster.

[veritas]

Originally Posted by MATBAN96

As flawed as The Last Jedi is, I still think it's the best of the sequel trilogy.

Generally depends on how you rate movies. Last Jedi had a few of the highest highs and a lot of the lowest lows. Its problems ruin it for me but its probably the easiest of the 3 films to fix.

I mean we would have been better off if they just made a trilogy off of one of the successful book series but that is a full tear down of what we got. I would have loved a Darth bane trilogy or almost anything with the old republic.

[starmike]

Originally Posted by MATBAN96

As flawed as The Last Jedi is, I still think it's the best of the sequel trilogy.

It has a mountain of script issues. I thought VII was far better.

[moreorless]

Originally Posted by MATBAN96

As flawed as The Last Jedi is, I still think it's the best of the sequel trilogy.

Probably true, I think its the only one which has a significant amount of material, generally the stuff around Ben Solo for the first 2/3rds which is genuinely worthwhile and its easier to imagine how that could have been worked into a better film.

The Abrams films to me are just such empty cynical dross its really not easy to see how they could be "saved", I just think there fundamentally bad films which never really had much ambition behind them at all. If anything I think the execution is probably better than the intent as at least they avoid some of the really bad dialog/performances of the prequels.