Road House 4K UHD (1989) (Arrow Films)

[Matt89]

I think I'm good with my VS copy actually. Great that Arrow is releasing it for folks across the pond but yeah this is one I'll likely pass on.

[lilboyblu]

Originally Posted by Mariah007

he dug the remake a bit too, can someone translate that for me?
What on earth does that even mean?

The 2024 remake. He dug it. But only a bit.

[Mariah007]

I wonder if this will go through since now its been posted on twitter, tagging arrow video for a response to see if its true or not.

[dallywhitty]

Originally Posted by Mariah007

I wonder if this will go through since now its been posted on twitter, tagging arrow video for a response to see if its true or not.

Wot.

[DR Herbert West]

Leaks don't hurt.

[Ben_C]

Originally Posted by Ben_C

Arrow probably will give us a decent 4K release of Road House now that I finally gave up waiting and ordered the US release from the recent Vinegar Syndrome sale…

Guess I should have waited a little longer. Hey ho.

[JohnCarpenterFan]

Originally Posted by jtu128

New transfer? Isn’t the current transfer a little controversial? I’ve read it’s a bit too saturated?

I never got around to getting the VS release, but a lot of their grades are super saturated and skewed towards the warmer side of the color spectrum. I've been distracted by skintones a number of times while watching some of their discs. Faces can go from lobster red to pink as a baby mouse in the same scene sometimes depending on the shot.

A completely new transfer should not be necessary. If there are issues with the grade then they'd just need to make some adjustments. Arrow didn't do so with Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 (although Turbine apparently did and their results look better, judging by screenshots anyway), but it would be great if more labels decided to make improvements to existing masters or got hold of reference prints and regrade them. Someone seriously needs to do so with Southern Comfort.

[Markgway]

I came this close to buying the German edition...

Will wait.

[CreasyBear]

I'm plenty happy with the VS set.

[Ill_Be_Back]

I'll be holding onto my Vinegar Syndrome release, I'll definitely buy it again!

[professorwho]

My personal theory as to how their (VS) HDR grades are so bizarre is that they do the initial grading in SDR rec.709, and then map it into HDR rec.2020, because the SDR BDs tend to look more "natural". Either that or they just like that style of grading. If my theory is true, I don't understand why they don't just grade in HDR rec.2020 first in Resolve and then use Dolby's tools to do a more accurate SDR tonemap. That would guarantee better results, but could change their workflow drastically, I guess.

[JohnCarpenterFan]

Originally Posted by professorwho

My personal theory as to how their (VS) HDR grades are so bizarre is that they do the initial grading in SDR rec.709, and then map it into HDR rec.2020, because the SDR BDs tend to look more "natural". Either that or they just like that style of grading. If my theory is true, I don't understand why they don't just grade in HDR rec.2020 first in Resolve and then use Dolby's tools to do a more accurate SDR tonemap. That would guarantee better results, but could change their workflow drastically, I guess.

I'm not sure, but a number of labels over the years have had their own style of grading that was unconventional to say the least. Thankfully it seems like more and more grading work is being outsourced to post houses who can seemingly do much better work. I recently watched VS's UHD of Showgirls and thought the grade was fantastic (although it might have been a pre-existing one); The Tenant seemed fine as well but I'm certain I've noticed plenty of strangeness in the others I have.

Now after looking at caps of the UHD and Blu-ray of Road House, I can believe that the HDR is some kind of afterthought. Look at this LOL: https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go=1&...03727&i=10&l=0

Maybe I should check out the accompanying Blu-rays in the VS UHD releases that I have. I may end up enjoying them more!

[nicwood]

Originally Posted by JohnCarpenterFan

I recently watched VS's UHD of Showgirls and thought the grade was fantastic (although it might have been a pre-existing one); The Tenant seemed fine as well but I'm certain I've noticed plenty of strangeness in the others I have.

Showgirls was modeled after what Paul Verhoeven supervised. Here’s what VS said at the time:

Furthermore, we’ve performed extensive exclusive restoration using the source files from Paul Verhoeven’s supervised colour grade to ensure a presentation which looks exactly as intended, but without any of the digital manipulation which has notoriously plagued other releases.

• Newly restored by Vinegar Syndrome from an existing director approved 4K studio master

[starman15317]

Originally Posted by DR Herbert West

Leaks don't hurt.

Yes they do. For one thing, they'll probably hurt this artist's chance of working with Arrow again, even if that was their decision to share it.

[Telemachus]

Finally, I stopped grabbing VS discs around the time this came out, seems like someone else always does it better

[Rollo Tomassi]

Originally Posted by Telemachus

Finally, I stopped grabbing VS discs around the time this came out, seems like someone else always does it better

If that were the case, where are the better releases of Southern Comfort, From Beyond and eXistenZ?

Just kidding! If eventually some other label releases Southern Comfort with a more neutral colour grading and all other stats equivalent to or better than the VS release, I'll prolly quadruple dip in a heartbeat!
The other two benefit from the hot look, IMO!

[Rollo Tomassi]

[quote=Putin.][quote=JohnCarpenterFan]

Now after looking at caps of the UHD and Blu-ray of Road House, I can believe that the HDR is some kind of afterthought.

It's probably a matter of settings:

Whoa, why would you pick that forum name? For shock value?
JCF truly knows his stuff, so implying his settings are off is a rather hot take I'm afraid...

[lazerface]

golly that artwork is rough, I'll stick with my VinSyn edition

[Rollo Tomassi]

Originally Posted by Putin.

Yeah, Vinegar Syndrome is a sh it label. Hundreds or thousands of restored adult films, exploitation... Who needs them? Fu ck them.

While they only occasionally produce a release of a movie I do care about, their work is usually top notch (hot grading aside!)!

[The hitcher]

Hopefully the standard edition will have a flipper cover.

I will just put it in a 4 disc case with the Shout factory blu if not