Jurassic Park Collection 4K UHD (1993-2015)

[nico87]

Originally Posted by nico87

I'll be getting the UK steelbook tomorrow, will check those frames on JP3.

Well well package was delayed in transit. That and Dark City still in limbo, worst luck I've had with Amazon in years.

[OSHAN]

Originally Posted by Crylon

I have some catching up to do in this thread, but to my eyes, faces seem less waxy in JP1 and the image is a little less harsh in general. I think it looks pretty decent through my projector - it could still be better but this is best I've seen it at home.

I didn't own The Lost World or JP3 before, so the steelbook was worth it.

NA copy? Mind checking the JP3 issue?

[DanFan]

Originally Posted by accountsareapain

Just checked and yes, there are 7 pixelated frames from 1:16:04.435 to 1:16:04.685 on JPIII, new US disc.

I only see the pixelation with HDR.

It is not present when Dolby Vision is active.

Panny820

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by Bishop_99

I liked the way The Lost World looked. The only issue was the random DNR heavy scenes for 5 minutes after the 20 minute mark, and a few scenes in the first opening minutes. I was afraid it was going to be like Batman Begins, but no other severe dnr shows up again. I can’t remember if those scenes looked natural or dnr’d in the previous 4K release, but I like this disc.

Felt the same watching it last night. I really like Kaminski's style here and how it comes across on the disc. The random DNR felt a bit odd, but very minimal at least. Audio very good as well.

[Crylon]

Originally Posted by OSHAN

NA copy? Mind checking the JP3 issue?

Yeah it's NA and I got the same issue.

[guitarist331]

I checked my Jurassic Park III disc. I have the same issue. I'm guessing chances are 0 there's a replacement program for the disc?

[accountsareapain]

Originally Posted by DanFan

I only see the pixelation with HDR.

It is not present when Dolby Vision is active.

Panny820

I indeed didn't try with a proper DV setup, just HDR10. For DV, the closest thing I have for now is a DV laptop, but it doesn't work with FEL, I think (I tried with the laptop too, and its screen's DV logo popped up, but my programs ignore FEL AFAIK, so I saw the pixelation with this one setup too).

Well, anyway, does anyone have any insight on how can this be? So can DV/FEL really fix such a thing (I mean the pixelation is gigantic for those 7 frames)?

[steel_breeze]

Originally Posted by accountsareapain

Well, anyway, does anyone have any insight on how can this be? So can DV/FEL really fix such a thing (I mean the pixelation is gigantic for those 7 frames)?

Halloween II says hello.

[WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

With Raiders, the 35mm scan I saw most resembled the DVD in terms of color (vs BD and UHD). I have no idea of the basis for this as the 35mm scan looks too rough and faded for my liking, but it didn't have as much 'warmth' as the UHD let alone BD.

You do have to be cautious when judging colors by 35mm release print scans. Most scans out there were not remotely carefully color-calibrated and many set to a non-theatrical projection white point and for stuff before 1983/1982 many are from red faded prints and the re-grading of the scans was just but whatever seemed sensible to the pare particular person doing it and also some release prints are outliers and timed weirdly so there is always a chance of that. Many earlier scans are radically far off. From what I've seen only a tiny faction are really close at all and a bare few really, really close, that said it can still be useful and from a few scans extremely useful.

[WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW]

Originally Posted by jpilla415

No.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...postcount=6627

but on the very first sample pic I see tons of DNR compared to the prio

[WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW]

Originally Posted by JohnCarpenterFan

I liked the look of the professionally scanned print VickPS had shared images of earlier in this thread more than the look of that project. Not that it looks bad at all (and I'm not sure how it was scanned/adjusted) and it may just be the print, but I feel a lot of these fan scans are almost afraid to show any "teal" or tints even if they're there on the original prints.

Carefully compared and adjusted to original print. That said I think some of the demo pics there are from earlier on in the project where calibration may have been in a less refined state and not as exacting yet.

[WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW]

Originally Posted by VickPS

And you are spot on, across the board.

Every fan-made scan of JP, but most movies in general really, is just as "incorrect" as your average home video version.
This is caused by an endless amount of factors including incorrect scan settings, scanner quality, scene by scene adjustments, personal taste of the "fan".. which is also most of time greatly influenced by his memories of versions he is used to.
You truly hit the nail on the head when it comes to the general attitude towards "teal".
As a matter of fact, some 35mm scans born as an answer to modern revisionistic gradings end up mirroring the magenta home video version, only with dirt, scratches, gamma issues, and softer picture.
Looking nothing like the raw scan, which in fact is almost always a copy of the modern revisionistic grading just in organic form.

I honestly wouldn't trust half of the "35mm scans" around.
You can fully trust the JP screenshot I shared though, entirely exempt from every single factor I listed previously.

Agreed that most of the 35mm scans around and not very trustable for colors. That said the other scan posted here is one being built up with very exacting methods. Careful calibration for film stock and then directly side by side calibrated with actual print on top (something done for almost no 35mm scans out there). And timed to D56 and not by just setting optical track as pure white as most scans do and which is not correct most of the time. I think some of the samples here from it are from earlier on though before it was deeper into calibration stage.

I think these ones are from deeper into calibration stage:

[Show spoiler]

That said to all get the new discs. They bring plenty of things no 35mm scans out there can too.

[WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Yeah, sure as hell isn't the 35MM prints I saw. What I saw was bleached, colorless, and not very sharp. In other words, what's on the 4K. But even dirtier and a lot granier too.

It's hard to really recall but I don't seem to recall coming out of theater thinking JPIII looked crummy.

[gnicks]

Originally Posted by DanFan

I only see the pixelation with HDR.

It is not present when Dolby Vision is active.

Panny820

Same here on the Panasonic 9000. The pixelation does not occur when using DV.

If I disable DV, the error is there.

[Symus35]

What kind of crappy work is that?

Im on France im glad m'y copy will have a good encoding job

[samuelkhan999]

Originally Posted by Crylon

Yeah it's NA and I got the same issue.

Just got my UK 4k trilogy from HMV eBay storefront. Can confirm the pixelation at 1:16:04 only in HDR. No issues in DV.

The 4k DV/DA discs are European discs with English Atmos, French, German Atmos, Italian and Spanish.

[samuelkhan999]

Originally Posted by Symus35

What kind of crappy work is that?

Im on France im glad m'y copy will have a good encoding job

I habe the 4k trilogy in the UK with French dub. The problem will be widespread across all JP 3 DV/DA discs.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Symus35

What kind of crappy work is that?

Im on France im glad m'y copy will have a good encoding job

Yes but now I'm wondering whether the people with the Euro set who said there's no pixelation are watching in Dobly as well? I mean, I'm happy that the FEL fixes it in either case but when I get my set today the first thing I'll check is JPIII in HDR10.

[Symus35]

Yeah you have a point. Ill be able to check this evening m'y French set. Ill test in hdr10 and report here.

[samuelkhan999]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Yes but now I'm wondering whether the people with the Euro set who said there's no pixelation are watching in Dobly as well? I mean, I'm happy that the FEL fixes it in either case but when I get my set today the first thing I'll check is JPIII in HDR10.

I just got delivered the uk 4k trilogy. The ion is there in HDR but all is good in DV.