A question about Animé on High Def players for Chris - Blu-ray Forum

Deciazulado · 10-16-2006, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Beveridge

I *cannot* use the Toshiba player for my DVD back catalog. The bizarre nature by which anime is made does not play well on that machine in how it handles pulldown. The Samsung actually handled it better and the Panasonic looks fantastic. But that's just me and my unique situation.

Is this because some OVAs are done at 30fps or mixed rates?

(The Panasonic, looking fantastic on animé, 7.1 analogs (and TrueHD/DTS HD MA firmware upgrade), multichannel DVD-A, movie friendy time display (I actually like it, movies are not watched in chapters but as constant flows!

) is sounding better all the time.)

Chris Beveridge · 10-16-2006, 12:40 PM

Pretty much. When watching a number of shows on the Toshiba, the de-interlacing issues are very problematic and fast action scenes look horrible. I haven't had these issues on the Samsung and not yet on the Panasonic.

GoldenRedux · 10-16-2006, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Beveridge

Pretty much. When watching a number of shows on the Toshiba, the de-interlacing issues are very problematic and fast action scenes look horrible. I haven't had these issues on the Samsung and not yet on the Panasonic.

So, I suppose for Anime fans such as ourselves, the Panny really is the way to go then, even if there aren't any BD titles available. The DVD playback will be superior, and that's where all my Anime is now.

Chris Beveridge · 10-16-2006, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRedux

So, I suppose for Anime fans such as ourselves, the Panny really is the way to go then, even if there aren't any BD titles available. The DVD playback will be superior, and that's where all my Anime is now.

BD is pretty much it for right now. With HD DVD being nearly dead in Japan beyond Warner supporting it, all they have coming out there is Project PAPO and Brave Story, both of which are also coming on BD. Most anime coming out in Region A will be in Japan for awhile via BD. We won't see much in the US for probably another year.

Josh · 10-16-2006, 01:41 PM

Chris, could that possibly be a display issue? What display are you using?

Chris Beveridge · 10-16-2006, 01:45 PM

It could be; I've got a Panasonic PT50LC13. I have not had the problem with my previous upscaling player (Zenith DVB-313 -> which has not had the firmware upgrade to disable component upscaling) or my Panasonic RP-82. Out of my last five or six players, only the Toshiba has exhibited the problem.

Josh · 10-16-2006, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Beveridge

It could be; I've got a Panasonic PT50LC13. I have not had the problem with my previous upscaling player (Zenith DVB-313 -> which has not had the firmware upgrade to disable component upscaling) or my Panasonic RP-82. Out of my last five or six players, only the Toshiba has exhibited the problem.

You are feeding the display 1080i from all sources, right? All using HDMI?

Side note: I just pre-ordered FLCL: The Ultimate Edition from CDUniverse for ~$40 shipped using Google Checkout. Yay!

Chris Beveridge · 10-16-2006, 02:42 PM

Yup, it's all either HDMI or DVI. The Zenith was DVI-DVI (which is what my set has) but the Toshiba, Samsung and Panny have all been a single converter cable of HDMI to DVI (hence why I don't care about there being no cable in the box, it would have been useless for me).

FLCL ultimate is going to be sweet. I absolutely adore that show. It's just got such a great rythym to it.

Josh · 10-16-2006, 04:01 PM

Interesting. My only thought is maybe Toshiba is adding some flagging to the upconverted image which is conflicting with your deinterlacer in your display.

OT: Can you feel that hybrid rainbow?

Blackraven · 10-20-2006, 03:06 PM

16:9 is letterbox right (black bars)?

How does it handle animes that use the black bars (such as Vandread: Second Stage and Samurai 7 to name a few)?

Chris Beveridge · 10-20-2006, 03:19 PM

Vandread isn't anamorphic, so it's 4:3 material but the show itself is 16:9, so it's letterboxed and windowboxed. Samurai 7 is anamorphic so it displays in full mode.

I checked out the new Guyver DVD last night, which is anamorphic widescreen, and it was stunning on the player.

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10-16-2006, 12:40 PM	#2
Chris Beveridge Moderator Member since:Sep 2006 Location:Hudson, MA Blu-ray reviews:3	Pretty much. When watching a number of shows on the Toshiba, the de-interlacing issues are very problematic and fast action scenes look horrible. I haven't had these issues on the Samsung and not yet on the Panasonic.

10-16-2006, 01:41 PM	#5
Josh Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Sep 2006 Home Theater Gallery:50 4K collection:37 Blu-ray collection:407 Digital collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 15 Trading Score:34	Chris, could that possibly be a display issue? What display are you using?

10-16-2006, 01:45 PM	#6
Chris Beveridge Moderator Member since:Sep 2006 Location:Hudson, MA Blu-ray reviews:3	It could be; I've got a Panasonic PT50LC13. I have not had the problem with my previous upscaling player (Zenith DVB-313 -> which has not had the firmware upgrade to disable component upscaling) or my Panasonic RP-82. Out of my last five or six players, only the Toshiba has exhibited the problem.

10-16-2006, 02:42 PM	#8
Chris Beveridge Moderator Member since:Sep 2006 Location:Hudson, MA Blu-ray reviews:3	Yup, it's all either HDMI or DVI. The Zenith was DVI-DVI (which is what my set has) but the Toshiba, Samsung and Panny have all been a single converter cable of HDMI to DVI (hence why I don't care about there being no cable in the box, it would have been useless for me). FLCL ultimate is going to be sweet. I absolutely adore that show. It's just got such a great rythym to it.

10-16-2006, 04:01 PM	#9
Josh Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Sep 2006 Home Theater Gallery:50 4K collection:37 Blu-ray collection:407 Digital collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 15 Trading Score:34	Interesting. My only thought is maybe Toshiba is adding some flagging to the upconverted image which is conflicting with your deinterlacer in your display. OT: Can you feel that hybrid rainbow?

10-20-2006, 03:06 PM	#10
Blackraven Expert Member Member since:Jan 2005 Location:Makati, Philippines	16:9 is letterbox right (black bars)? How does it handle animes that use the black bars (such as Vandread: Second Stage and Samurai 7 to name a few)?

10-20-2006, 03:19 PM	#11
Chris Beveridge Moderator Member since:Sep 2006 Location:Hudson, MA Blu-ray reviews:3	Vandread isn't anamorphic, so it's 4:3 material but the show itself is 16:9, so it's letterboxed and windowboxed. Samurai 7 is anamorphic so it displays in full mode. I checked out the new Guyver DVD last night, which is anamorphic widescreen, and it was stunning on the player.

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