Digital copies, why? - Blu-ray Forum

Kynch · 10-24-2009, 10:44 PM

I hate them. Simple as. If I want a blocky, pixelated, bad sounding copy of the movie I'll just either make my own rip or download it.
Same goes for a DVD copy of the movie, however practical it is, it's still useless. I pay for a Blu-ray because that's how I want to watch the movie in HD.

You never saw DVDs come with a "Bonus VHS Copy of the Movie!".

I know some people'll bring out the "What about a DVD copy for the children to watch?" argument. But since I don't have any yet, I still think that you shouldn't be charged extra for useless extras such as Digital Copies and DVD copies of movies. Or if it's simply unavoidable, put the digital copy on the DVD or put a flyer in the case to download the movie online.

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banned user105 · 10-24-2009, 11:06 PM

I don't mind digital copies one bit. I never use them, but as long as they don't affect the price of Blu-Rays, why should anybody care? It seems like such a silly thing to get riled up about, like the guy above me.

What does bother me though is when movies with digital copies are marketed as 2 disc sets (when the second disc is just a digital copy), or some kind of super awesome bonus special edition. Take the GI Joe cover for instance:

Digital Copy Edition? Bahahaha. Give me a break.

roach_rch · 10-24-2009, 11:12 PM

Another absurd edition is the upcoming Disney's Up - 2x BD + 1x DVD + 1x Digital Copy. I regret that they couldn't fit also the Laserdisc, HD DVD and the USB flash drive with second digital copy into that box. I absolutely HATE Digital Copies.

MobileES · 12-19-2009, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by roach_rch

Another absurd edition is the upcoming Disney's Up - 2x BD + 1x DVD + 1x Digital Copy. I regret that they couldn't fit also the Laserdisc, HD DVD and the USB flash drive with second digital copy into that box. I absolutely HATE Digital Copies.

ROTFLMAO!!!

krazeyeyez · 12-19-2009, 08:49 PM

I hate the fact they are limited, if you don't get a first release edition you don't get them, and then they have an expiration. This seems extremely dumb. Way to not push the format and to add yet another thing to blu-rays that has exceptions and furthers customer confusion.

blu_sharpy · 12-19-2009, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by krazeyeyez

I hate the fact they are limited, if you don't get a first release edition you don't get them, and then they have an expiration. This seems extremely dumb. Way to not push the format and to add yet another thing to blu-rays that has exceptions and furthers customer confusion.

I tried to say that on the HP forum but got shouted down with the usual buy it on release date if its such a problem rubbish.
I think its ridiculuous that they are limited but there should be a set time maybe a year or two. Not a limit that varies between companies and becomes confusing.

zedd_117 · 10-24-2009, 11:13 PM

yep, or how about the "4 disc" editions of both "Up" and "Monsters Inc."
Not only do you get a digital copy, but a crappy DVD as well. They could at least make it in separate packaging so you could ebay it.

banned user105 · 10-24-2009, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by zedd_117

yep, or how about the "4 disc" editions of both "Up" and "Monsters Inc."
Not only do you get a digital copy, but a crappy DVD as well. They could at least make it in separate packaging so you could ebay it.

That "crappy DVD" is a brilliant marketing move and you're the first person who I've ever seen badmouth it. It's an awesome bonus, and infinitely better than a digital copy.

Brad1963 · 10-24-2009, 11:19 PM

To me, they are a waste.

Sonny · 10-24-2009, 11:26 PM

I love digital copys, & having a MacBook and iPhone make them worth their weight in gold. I wish every BD came with a digi copy!!!

papaholmz · 10-24-2009, 11:32 PM

The great thing about opinions is that everyone's got one and there is no law that says we all have to have the same opinion.

I, for one, have never used and probably will never use a digital copy disc. But I think it's cool that they are included for people who want to use them.

I also will probably never play the DVD disc that comes with "Up" and "Monsters, Inc" but I still think it is awesome of Disney to include the DVD version at no extra charge. Think about it, a lot of parents will buy those movies for their kids, and to have a DVD copy for the kids room AND a BD copy for mom and dad... I just think it was great of Disney to do that.

If you don't like them, then awesome for you. The OP was upset that a digital copy was included instead of special features. But, in my opinion, the special features are just as useless as a digital copy disc. I can honestly say that out of the 1000 plus DVDs I've had over the years, and 100 plus BDs, I've only ever watched the special features of one movie. In fact, I have movies that I haven't had time to watch, so why am I going to spend 4 hours watching special features for one movie when I have plenty of 2 hour movies I've never watched.

To me, special features are the same as digital copy discs or DVD copies. I don't care about any of them, but I think its great that they are included for those that do care.

-papaholmz

Yankees0222 · 10-24-2009, 11:39 PM

I don't know why everyone is complaining about digital copies. You are NOT paying more for them. The prices of BDs with or without digital copies are the same so why not get more bang for your buck? I don't get....

Blurayne · 10-26-2009, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by papaholmz

The great thing about opinions is that everyone's got one and there is no law that says we all have to have the same opinion.

I, for one, have never used and probably will never use a digital copy disc. But I think it's cool that they are included for people who want to use them.

I also will probably never play the DVD disc that comes with "Up" and "Monsters, Inc" but I still think it is awesome of Disney to include the DVD version at no extra charge. Think about it, a lot of parents will buy those movies for their kids, and to have a DVD copy for the kids room AND a BD copy for mom and dad... I just think it was great of Disney to do that.

If you don't like them, then awesome for you. The OP was upset that a digital copy was included instead of special features. But, in my opinion, the special features are just as useless as a digital copy disc. I can honestly say that out of the 1000 plus DVDs I've had over the years, and 100 plus BDs, I've only ever watched the special features of one movie. In fact, I have movies that I haven't had time to watch, so why am I going to spend 4 hours watching special features for one movie when I have plenty of 2 hour movies I've never watched.

To me, special features are the same as digital copy discs or DVD copies. I don't care about any of them, but I think its great that they are included for those that do care.

-papaholmz

That is why i love the extra dvd. The kids can have theirs and the wife and i can have ours.

zedd_117 · 10-24-2009, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by doctorthodt

That "crappy DVD" is a brilliant marketing move and you're the first person who I've ever seen badmouth it. It's an awesome bonus, and infinitely better than a digital copy.

Oh I understand why they do it (Disney is the master of marketing), but, not having kids, nor a mini-van or vehicle with a DVD player, I guess I just can not appreciate it.
I just think they should have 2 options available, Just the 2 disc Blu edition, for like $5-$10 less, or the 4-disc (call it a Family Edition, or something) for the $30 retail price.
Just a thought.

Trace17 · 10-25-2009, 12:19 AM

I hate the digital copy so much, but studios should meet us halfway and for those releases that have a dvd with it (I'm looking at you disney) they should just put the digital copy and dvd on the same disc. If they did that and never, ever, ever marketed a Blu-ray as a "digital copy special edition" I would be okay with it. I've used them once or twice but only to say I used them, not because I actually like them.

Edit: A good example might be Coraline. Digital copy and dvd on same disc, plus both BD and DVD retain special features. Win/win.

Melesine · 12-31-2009, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by zedd_117

Oh I understand why they do it (Disney is the master of marketing), but, not having kids, nor a mini-van or vehicle with a DVD player, I guess I just can not appreciate it.
I just think they should have 2 options available, Just the 2 disc Blu edition, for like $5-$10 less, or the 4-disc (call it a Family Edition, or something) for the $30 retail price.
Just a thought.

Using that argument, I can request that I they offer just the movie for 5-10 bucks cheaper so I don't have to "pay" for bonus features I'll never watch.

demers_60 · 04-20-2010, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doctorthodt

That "crappy DVD" is a brilliant marketing move and you're the first person who I've ever seen badmouth it. It's an awesome bonus, and infinitely better than a digital copy.

I agree with you on this. I like the special features on the included DVD's that would not be available on a single disc BD only. I think Princess Bride is one example of this.

Kris Deering · 04-21-2010, 04:55 PM

Anyone have any advice on getting DVDs onto an iPad? I have a lot of digital copies obvioulsy but there are some DVDs I have that I would like to convert to use on my iPad for travel. If anyone has any advice on this please PM, THANKS!!!!

sfmarine · 10-24-2009, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doctorthodt

I don't mind digital copies one bit. I never use them, but as long as they don't affect the price of Blu-Rays, why should anybody care? It seems like such a silly thing to get riled up about, like the guy above me.

What does bother me though is when movies with digital copies are marketed as 2 disc sets (when the second disc is just a digital copy), or some kind of super awesome bonus special edition. Take the GI Joe cover for instance:

Digital Copy Edition? Bahahaha. Give me a break.

That is truly overdoing it.

batman1989 · 10-25-2009, 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doctorthodt

I don't mind digital copies one bit. I never use them, but as long as they don't affect the price of Blu-Rays, why should anybody care? It seems like such a silly thing to get riled up about, like the guy above me.

What does bother me though is when movies with digital copies are marketed as 2 disc sets (when the second disc is just a digital copy), or some kind of super awesome bonus special edition. Take the GI Joe cover for instance:

Digital Copy Edition? Bahahaha. Give me a break.

Who would want to own that crappy movie anyway? Heh heh.

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10-24-2009, 10:44 PM	#1
Kynch Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Oct 2008 Location:UK Home Theater Gallery:1 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:60	I hate them. Simple as. If I want a blocky, pixelated, bad sounding copy of the movie I'll just either make my own rip or download it. Same goes for a DVD copy of the movie, however practical it is, it's still useless. I pay for a Blu-ray because that's how I want to watch the movie in HD. You never saw DVDs come with a "Bonus VHS Copy of the Movie!". I know some people'll bring out the "What about a DVD copy for the children to watch?" argument. But since I don't have any yet, I still think that you shouldn't be charged extra for useless extras such as Digital Copies and DVD copies of movies. Or if it's simply unavoidable, put the digital copy on the DVD or put a flyer in the case to download the movie online. [/vent]

10-24-2009, 11:06 PM	#2
banned user105 Banned Member since:Aug 2009 Location:Orlando Blu-ray collection:1672	I don't mind digital copies one bit. I never use them, but as long as they don't affect the price of Blu-Rays, why should anybody care? It seems like such a silly thing to get riled up about, like the guy above me. What does bother me though is when movies with digital copies are marketed as 2 disc sets (when the second disc is just a digital copy), or some kind of super awesome bonus special edition. Take the GI Joe cover for instance: Digital Copy Edition? Bahahaha. Give me a break.

10-24-2009, 11:12 PM	#3
roach_rch Expert Member Member since:Jun 2009 Location:Gdynia, Poland \|\| Blu-ray SteelBooks™: all for sale:( Blu-ray collection:99 Trading Score:22	Another absurd edition is the upcoming Disney's Up - 2x BD + 1x DVD + 1x Digital Copy. I regret that they couldn't fit also the Laserdisc, HD DVD and the USB flash drive with second digital copy into that box. I absolutely HATE Digital Copies.

12-19-2009, 08:49 PM	#5
krazeyeyez Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Dec 2007 Location:the guy on the couch Home Theater Gallery:18 Blu-ray collection:287 Blu-ray reviews:4	I hate the fact they are limited, if you don't get a first release edition you don't get them, and then they have an expiration. This seems extremely dumb. Way to not push the format and to add yet another thing to blu-rays that has exceptions and furthers customer confusion.

10-24-2009, 11:13 PM	#7
zedd_117 Expert Member Member since:Oct 2008 Location:Monessen, PA Blu-ray collection:353 Trading Score:3	yep, or how about the "4 disc" editions of both "Up" and "Monsters Inc." Not only do you get a digital copy, but a crappy DVD as well. They could at least make it in separate packaging so you could ebay it.

10-24-2009, 11:19 PM	#9
Brad1963 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Los Angeles, CA 4K collection:339 Blu-ray collection:1646 DVD collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 1	To me, they are a waste.

10-24-2009, 11:26 PM	#10
Sonny Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2007 Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray reviews:6 Trading Score:1	I love digital copys, & having a MacBook and iPhone make them worth their weight in gold. I wish every BD came with a digi copy!!!

10-24-2009, 11:32 PM	#11
papaholmz Senior Member Member since:Mar 2008 Trading Score:22	The great thing about opinions is that everyone's got one and there is no law that says we all have to have the same opinion. I, for one, have never used and probably will never use a digital copy disc. But I think it's cool that they are included for people who want to use them. I also will probably never play the DVD disc that comes with "Up" and "Monsters, Inc" but I still think it is awesome of Disney to include the DVD version at no extra charge. Think about it, a lot of parents will buy those movies for their kids, and to have a DVD copy for the kids room AND a BD copy for mom and dad... I just think it was great of Disney to do that. If you don't like them, then awesome for you. The OP was upset that a digital copy was included instead of special features. But, in my opinion, the special features are just as useless as a digital copy disc. I can honestly say that out of the 1000 plus DVDs I've had over the years, and 100 plus BDs, I've only ever watched the special features of one movie. In fact, I have movies that I haven't had time to watch, so why am I going to spend 4 hours watching special features for one movie when I have plenty of 2 hour movies I've never watched. To me, special features are the same as digital copy discs or DVD copies. I don't care about any of them, but I think its great that they are included for those that do care. -papaholmz

10-24-2009, 11:39 PM	#12
Yankees0222 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jun 2009 Location:Colorado 4K collection:73 Blu-ray collection:1856 DVD collection:315 Blu-ray reviews: 3 Trading Score:172	I don't know why everyone is complaining about digital copies. You are NOT paying more for them. The prices of BDs with or without digital copies are the same so why not get more bang for your buck? I don't get....

10-25-2009, 12:19 AM	#15
Trace17 Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Oklahoma 4K collection:285 Blu-ray collection:1342 Trading Score:136	I hate the digital copy so much, but studios should meet us halfway and for those releases that have a dvd with it (I'm looking at you disney) they should just put the digital copy and dvd on the same disc. If they did that and never, ever, ever marketed a Blu-ray as a "digital copy special edition" I would be okay with it. I've used them once or twice but only to say I used them, not because I actually like them. Edit: A good example might be Coraline. Digital copy and dvd on same disc, plus both BD and DVD retain special features. Win/win.

04-21-2010, 04:55 PM	#18
Kris Deering Power Member Member since:Nov 2006 Location:Pacific Northwest Blu-ray collection:400 Trading Score:131	Anyone have any advice on getting DVDs onto an iPad? I have a lot of digital copies obvioulsy but there are some DVDs I have that I would like to convert to use on my iPad for travel. If anyone has any advice on this please PM, THANKS!!!!

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