Understanding Dialog Normalization - Blu-ray Forum

Fors* · 11-05-2009, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Daddy

Thank you.

I try to make things as easy as possible so that people with limited scientific knowledge can understand the topic. I hope I have succeeded this time. I will modify and add to the op, but I didn't get much sleep last night and I need to dialnorm myself.

If you figure out how to turn off dialnorm with your significant other, please let me know!

Big Daddy · 11-05-2009, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by forsberg21

If you figure out how to turn off dialnorm with your significant other, please let me know!

This is the most effective technique to use dialog normalization on your significant other.

cembros · 11-05-2009, 02:13 PM

WOW well done sir. I tried to do something similar in a post about a week ago and acheived an epic fail. This is probably the most important of all your stickeys, to many people are confused about dialnorm and do not fully enjoy some really great tracks because of that. I would love to add a point about Indiana Jones, this seems to be the only track with a dialnorm value of -25, this means it is played 2-6db quiter than other tracks. I for the longest time did not realize this and found the track to be lacking. Reading reviews of the audio on the movie it seems the revewers experienced the samething. Once I played the movie at +2db on my receiver the track really rocked, a 5 star track without a doubt. I highly recomend that anyone with this movie (forget if you like the movie or not) go back and revisit it at the correct volume level.

Steve · 11-05-2009, 02:36 PM

Thanks for the great sticky Big Daddy. With all I've been seeing mentioned and discussed about this topic over the last few days, it's something I've been wanting to learn more about when I had the time. I have a much better grasp on it now.

Hammie · 11-05-2009, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by cembros

WOW well done sir. I tried to do something similar in a post about a week ago and acheived an epic fail. This is probably the most important of all your stickeys, to many people are confused about dialnorm and do not fully enjoy some really great tracks because of that. I would love to add a point about Indiana Jones, this seems to be the only track with a dialnorm value of -25, this means it is played 2-6db quiter than other tracks. I for the longest time did not realize this and found the track to be lacking. Reading reviews of the audio on the movie it seems the revewers experienced the samething. Once I played the movie at +2db on my receiver the track really rocked, a 5 star track without a doubt. I highly recomend that anyone with this movie (forget if you like the movie or not) go back and revisit it at the correct volume level.

The new G.I. Joe also appears to be offset by 6db.

Steve · 11-05-2009, 05:31 PM

I have a question regarding implementation. Is this something that receivers do automatically, or is it a feature that has to be turned on or off? How do you go about putting it into use exactly?

jomari · 11-05-2009, 07:16 PM

what the hell man! now what in the world should i write about to make a sticky?

home theater drapes?
popcorn recipes?
the effects of iodized salt to room acoustics and the axial mode?

great postin...

just a heads up, in relation to the posting... Crackinhedz posted a great article related to the said topic...

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...90&postcount=5

Hammie · 11-05-2009, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jomari

what the hell man! now what in the world should i write about to make a sticky?

home theater drapes?
popcorn recipes?
the effects of iodized salt to room acoustics and the axial mode?

great postin...

just a heads up, in relation to the posting... Crackinhedz posted a great article related to the said topic...

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...90&postcount=5

That's actually from the same article BD used as a reference for his -- the Hometheaterhifi website.

croseiv · 08-03-2010, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jomari

what the hell man! now what in the world should i write about to make a sticky?

home theater drapes?
popcorn recipes?
the effects of iodized salt to room acoustics and the axial mode?

great postin...

just a heads up, in relation to the posting... Crackinhedz posted a great article related to the said topic...

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...90&postcount=5

Interesting indeed.

Big Daddy · 11-05-2009, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by fireman325

I have a question regarding implementation. Is this something that receivers do automatically, or is it a feature that has to be turned on or off? How do you go about putting it into use exactly?

Receivers/decoders are required to read the dialnorm information in the metadata and use it. The only thing you can do is get a nice remote control and adjust the volume according to your taste. Don't forget about the neighbors.

Steve · 11-05-2009, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Daddy

Receivers/decoders are required to read the dialnorm information in the metadata and use it. The only thing you can do is get a nice remote control and adjust the volume according to your taste. Don't forget about the neighbors.

I have a Harmony One, and I'm not in an apartment.

As usual, thanks for the helpful response.

Big Daddy · 11-05-2009, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cembros

WOW well done sir. I tried to do something similar in a post about a week ago and acheived an epic fail. This is probably the most important of all your stickeys, to many people are confused about dialnorm and do not fully enjoy some really great tracks because of that. I would love to add a point about Indiana Jones, this seems to be the only track with a dialnorm value of -25, this means it is played 2-6db quiter than other tracks. I for the longest time did not realize this and found the track to be lacking. Reading reviews of the audio on the movie it seems the revewers experienced the samething. Once I played the movie at +2db on my receiver the track really rocked, a 5 star track without a doubt. I highly recomend that anyone with this movie (forget if you like the movie or not) go back and revisit it at the correct volume level.

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Originally Posted by Irrob

Big Daddy comes through yet again with a fantastic sticky. Thank you sir.

Thank you for the compliments. Dialnorm is probably the most misunderstood topic in audio.

Canada · 08-07-2018, 09:31 PM

Jesus, Big Daddy's post are so long and informative.

11-05-2009, 05:31 PM	#6
Steve Blu-ray Knight Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:May 2008 Location:Anna, TX 4K collection:128 Blu-ray collection:416 Trading Score:41	I have a question regarding implementation. Is this something that receivers do automatically, or is it a feature that has to be turned on or off? How do you go about putting it into use exactly? Last edited by Steve; 11-05-2009 at 09:30 PM.

11-05-2009, 07:16 PM	#7
jomari Moderator Top contributor Member since:Nov 2007 Home Theater Gallery:18 Blu-ray reviews: 2 Trading Score:2	what the hell man! now what in the world should i write about to make a sticky? home theater drapes? popcorn recipes? the effects of iodized salt to room acoustics and the axial mode? great postin... just a heads up, in relation to the posting... Crackinhedz posted a great article related to the said topic... https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...90&postcount=5 Last edited by jomari; 11-05-2009 at 07:21 PM.

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11-05-2009, 02:13 PM	#3
cembros Power Member Member since:Jan 2008 Blu-ray collection:456 Trading Score:4	WOW well done sir. I tried to do something similar in a post about a week ago and acheived an epic fail. This is probably the most important of all your stickeys, to many people are confused about dialnorm and do not fully enjoy some really great tracks because of that. I would love to add a point about Indiana Jones, this seems to be the only track with a dialnorm value of -25, this means it is played 2-6db quiter than other tracks. I for the longest time did not realize this and found the track to be lacking. Reading reviews of the audio on the movie it seems the revewers experienced the samething. Once I played the movie at +2db on my receiver the track really rocked, a 5 star track without a doubt. I highly recomend that anyone with this movie (forget if you like the movie or not) go back and revisit it at the correct volume level.

11-05-2009, 02:36 PM	#4
Steve Blu-ray Knight Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:May 2008 Location:Anna, TX 4K collection:128 Blu-ray collection:416 Trading Score:41	Thanks for the great sticky Big Daddy. With all I've been seeing mentioned and discussed about this topic over the last few days, it's something I've been wanting to learn more about when I had the time. I have a much better grasp on it now.

08-07-2018, 09:31 PM	#13
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