Distance Between Speakers

[richteer]

It's hard to say without first hand experience, but I'm gonna go against the flow here and suggest that in your case the first position might be better. The reason for that is in the second picture, your speakers look far too close to the corners and and boomy sound is almost inevitiable.

[js666]

Originally Posted by richteer

It's hard to say without first hand experience, but I'm gonna go against the flow here and suggest that in your case the first position might be better. The reason for that is in the second picture, your speakers look far too close to the corners and and boomy sound is almost inevitiable.

I agree. I should also add that in my experience, the equilateral rule in NOT NEARLY as critical with HT than it is with 2CH listening.

[Hammie]

I think for HT, it is more important to have the front three the same distance from your listening area. This results in an arc along the front sound soundstage. Additionally, I have read (I think on the Dolby website) that in 2-channel, an equilateral triangle is best, where the fronts are at a 45 degree angle to the listening area. In HT, however, fronts should be around 30 degrees to the listening area. That would result in a wider speaker placement up front. This would make sense since HT has the center channel which would fill in any void seen in a 2-channel setup. This is also why it is so hard to have a multi-use setup. Unless you physically move your speakers depending on what you plan on listening to, you may not be in the optimum position to enjoy the audio.

[VinnAY]

Equilateral triangle.

[Travis]

Originally Posted by louhamilton

I think for HT, it is more important to have the front three the same distance from your listening area. This results in an arc along the front sound soundstage. Additionally, I have read (I think on the Dolby website) that in 2-channel, an equilateral triangle is best, where the fronts are at a 45 degree angle to the listening area. In HT, however, fronts should be around 30 degrees to the listening area. That would result in a wider speaker placement up front. This would make sense since HT has the center channel which would fill in any void seen in a 2-channel setup. This is also why it is so hard to have a multi-use setup. Unless you physically move your speakers depending on what you plan on listening to, you may not be in the optimum position to enjoy the audio.

Good idea Lou,

I will move my fronts up a bit more to get the same distance from seat.

[prerich]

Originally Posted by richteer

It's hard to say without first hand experience, but I'm gonna go against the flow here and suggest that in your case the first position might be better. The reason for that is in the second picture, your speakers look far too close to the corners and and boomy sound is almost inevitiable.

Depending on the speakers Richteer. My modded Snell/Audio Note AN-E/D's require corner loading for lower bass extention - and after the mods were made (to include the port tube itself) I recognized a huge increase of bass - that's not boomy at all. I atribute that to the design itself. I myself would actually bring them back in just a tad to get them out of the corners with those speakers (narrow baffles - the corners placement would mess with this imaging). A compromise between the two offerings

[kingofgrills]

I agree with Prerich on this one. The setup in the first photo has the speakers too close together compared to the main seating area. I think the second picture is closer to ideal. Try moving the speakers slightly closer together, away from the side walls and perhaps rear walls as well.

Finding ideal speaker placement can be critical to the overall sound. I find it beneficial to use a measuring tape and also a laser pointer for proper alignment.

[Johnny Vinyl]

I'm hesitant to provide an opinion, because I'm not fond of either placement. I think it's a choice between 2 evils. That couch is a major obstruction. If it were me I'd have a serious look at re-arranging the room.

John

[dewd]

Thanks for all the opinions. I did not get to watch anything else this weekend, but I will hopefully have a chance soon.

I agree the couch is the biggest problem here, but this is really a multi-purpose room and the couch has to stay. Maybe someday soon I can get the basement theater built.

[SellmeyourDVD]

What do people suggest for the subwoofer placement relative to the front speakers? Should the sub be on outside of the tower speaker or the inside? I'm thinking of redoing my setup a little bit because I feel that i'm not getting enough from the front speakers and I want them both on the outside and sub inbetween the tower speaker and the center speaker. Any suggestions?

[crazyBLUE]

Originally Posted by SellmeyourDVD

What do people suggest for the subwoofer placement relative to the front speakers? Should the sub be on outside of the tower speaker or the inside? I'm thinking of redoing my setup a little bit because I feel that i'm not getting enough from the front speakers and I want them both on the outside and sub inbetween the tower speaker and the center speaker. Any suggestions?

The sub can go anywhere in the room , it does not have to be up front . Try moving it around & see if it sounds better somewhere else . Bass waves are non directional . I have one in front & one in back .

[Johnny Vinyl]

Originally Posted by dewd

Thanks for all the opinions. I did not get to watch anything else this weekend, but I will hopefully have a chance soon.

I agree the couch is the biggest problem here, but this is really a multi-purpose room and the couch has to stay. Maybe someday soon I can get the basement theater built.

I can understand that situation completely, and it does leave you with somewhat of a problem. I might have an alternative to solve the issue however, and that is this.

Get rid of the Floorstanders and get a pair of high-quality monitors and stands for your front soundstage. This will eliminate the issue of the couch being in the way. If you don't want to do this, try placing your current speakers on some kind of raised platform (the size of a milk-crate for instance).

John

[neckedness]

in onkyo speaker setup, please explain the speaker distance

is it distance from each other or distance from where you sit?

[dewd]

Originally Posted by John72953

I can understand that situation completely, and it does leave you with somewhat of a problem. I might have an alternative to solve the issue however, and that is this.

Get rid of the Floorstanders and get a pair of high-quality monitors and stands for your front soundstage. This will eliminate the issue of the couch being in the way. If you don't want to do this, try placing your current speakers on some kind of raised platform (the size of a milk-crate for instance).

John

That is a darn good idea. Axiom makes some very nice bookshelf speakers. I was thinking of trying M22's anyway. If they don't work out I could use them for my computer.

THANKS!!!