What is your idea of 'Reference Level'?

[Big Daddy]

Originally Posted by crazyBLUE

Thanks for the post Big Daddy , I will try to keep mine down below 130db more often !!

At 130dB, you will be evicted from your condo.

[naturephoto1]

Originally Posted by Big Daddy

At 130dB, you will be evicted from your condo.

The big question is will Brent's condo still be standing after 130dB of sound.

Rich

[crazyBLUE]

Originally Posted by Big Daddy

At 130dB, you will be evicted from your condo.

Originally Posted by naturephoto1

The big question is will Brent's condo still be standing after 130dB of sound.

Rich

Yes & No ~

Yes I will be evicted from the HOA

No the building fell over

[dewd]

No, I'm not kidding. Remember, when the film is mixed, the mixer is listening at reference level. We don't have an epidemic of deaf film mixers.

105 db for 2 hours... The times a movies hits this level may be only a few minutes (and then it is usually the lower frequencies). The entire film is not this loud.

Also, depending on what your play when you turn your speakers on will make a difference. I'm only talking about films. There are no standards for TV and music.

So how do folks stand to watch a movie at the theater?

[Big Daddy]

Originally Posted by dewd

No, I'm not kidding. Remember, when the film is mixed, the mixer is listening at reference level. We don't have an epidemic of deaf film mixers.

105 db for 2 hours... The times a movies hits this level may be only a few minutes (and then it is usually the lower frequencies). The entire film is not this loud.

Also, depending on what your play when you turn your speakers on will make a difference. I'm only talking about films. There are no standards for TV and music.

So how do folks stand to watch a movie at the theater?

First of all, a theater is a much bigger place than a typical home theater room.

Second, a few months ago we went to see Hulk at Regal Theater (formerly, Edwards Theater). The theater is known to be very loud. For two hours, myself, my wife, my duaghter, and my son had our ears covered with our hands. Incidentally, my kids are in their 20's and enjoy loud music and movies.

[dewd]

Originally Posted by Big Daddy

First of all, a theater is a much bigger place than a typical home theater room.

Second, a few months ago we went to see Hulk at Regal Theater (formerly, Edwards Theater). The theater is known to be very loud. For two hours, myself, my wife, my duaghter, and my son had our ears covered with our hands. Incidentally, my kids are in their 20's and enjoy loud music and movies.

I hear this argument alot. Problem is were talking about the SPL at your seat. So it does not matter how big the room is. It is still the same level.

I have been to theaters that were too loud (painful). I remember watching Batman in the 80's and hating it because of the loudness. But, I also watched Transporter 3 last year at a THX cinema and I was very impressed - it was probably as loud, but it was properly setup. It was ALMOST as good as my theater.

[kareface]

Originally Posted by dewd

I hear this argument alot. Problem is were talking about the SPL at your seat. So it does not matter how big the room is. It is still the same level.

I have been to theaters that were too loud (painful). I remember watching Batman in the 80's and hating it because of the loudness. But, I also watched Transporter 3 last year at a THX cinema and I was very impressed - it was probably as loud, but it was properly setup. It was ALMOST as good as my theater.

I noticed you have the Axiom surrounds, have you had a chance to compare them to other di or bi poles and how do you like them? I was thinking of buying a pair to test because I don't know anyone that has given them a go.

[dewd]

Originally Posted by sentinel41

I noticed you have the Axiom surrounds, have you had a chance to compare them to other di or bi poles and how do you like them? I was thinking of buying a pair to test because I don't know anyone that has given them a go.

Love the Axiom's. I have not tried other 'real' bi/di-poles (I don't count Fluance as a mid/higher end speaker). I have used direct radiating in the past (infinity, fluance). Give them a try - you get 30 days to decide.

FYI - I have demo'd other bi-poles. Can't really comment since it was not in my home.

[kareface]

I was thinking of ordering a pair actually. I picked up a pair of bi's that can handle full range but for my room I think dipole would be better. I've wanted to test them out along with a few others that people have seemed to like but for now at least all my money is going into finishing up the speakers I'm building.