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Old 12-03-2009, 04:13 PM   #461
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Thanks jsteinhauer! With regard to my 2nd question, say I have the skill necessary to create potions and traps. How would I go about doing so then. Do I go into my inventory, highlight an "ingredient" and some option will appear for me to combine it with another?
You need to buy the recipe from the merchants in order to make traps/poison/potions. So if you want to make a fire trap then you need to buy the fire trap recipe. Kind of a pain really. After that open your wheel and select traps.
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Leliana sure is hard to get into the sack! Her approval rating is through the roof, and I still can't seem to choose the right dialog options. She still harps on me about Morrigan. She's very high maintenance!

Finished the Urn of Sacred Ashes quest late last night. I was surprised as Hell at how the end sequences played out.
[Show spoiler]I did not need to fight the high dragon, as I expected I would, which is a good thing, since the times I tried were finished practically before I started. I'll have to go back and try again later, but for now I need to go back and replay the final sequence in favor of the cult, just for the other trophy. For those who have played this, is there any advantage to killing the dragon at this point? How the other decision plays out will let me determine the best way to go in a future playthrough. That last battle against the shades of my own party was very tough. I had only one party member surviving at the end of that one, after several tries. I did not kill Brother Genitivi. He has something to give me later, and I'm still trying to get on with Leliana. I was nice to him. Did anyone play this by killing the guardian?
But, at least now I can move on with the story. I ended up having to destroy a bunch of loot on this quest, due to lack of capacity.

You need to remove Leliana from your party when you decide to take the cult route. Defeating the High dragon will result in getting you Wade's Superior Dragonbone armor. One of the best armor around. If you have Wade's Superior Dragonskin armor, the high dragon is pretty easy to defeat as long as you keep your distance.
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You need to buy the recipe from the merchants in order to make traps/poison/potions. So if you want to make a fire trap then you need to buy the fire trap recipe. Kind of a pain really. After that open your wheel and select traps.
oh, okay. Thanks!
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You need to remove Leliana from your party when you decide to take the cult route. Defeating the High dragon will result in getting you Wade's Superior Dragonbone armor. One of the best armor around. If you have Wade's Superior Dragonskin armor, the high dragon is pretty easy to defeat as long as you keep your distance.
Its not really all that good IMO. It just has a crap load of fire resistance. At least that it was had when I made plate.
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You need to remove Leliana from your party when you decide to take the cult route. Defeating the High dragon will result in getting you Wade's Superior Dragonbone armor. One of the best armor around. If you have Wade's Superior Dragonskin armor, the high dragon is pretty easy to defeat as long as you keep your distance.
I figured it was about armor, all things considered. Will Leliana's presence keep me from being able to do it, or will I just lose a lot of approval points? I don't plan on playing through from that point, just getting the trophy and then going back to my other save game.
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Its not really all that good IMO. It just has a crap load of fire resistance. At least that it was had when I made plate.
A crap load of fire resistance, +stamina/mana, + defense, +stamina/mana regen, and a very very high AC for a very low fatigue value.

Saying it's just a "crap load of fire resistance" isn't at all representing how good it is. I'd say it's the best armor in the game, easily...and is true regardless of whether you are designed for tanking or for DPS.

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I figured it was about armor, all things considered. Will Leliana's presence keep me from being able to do it, or will I just lose a lot of approval points? I don't plan on playing through from that point, just getting the trophy and then going back to my other save game.
[Show spoiler]She'll turn on you and you'll be forced to kill her. If you have Wynne, she'll do the same.
Make sure to get the Reaver skill while you're going down that path.

Are you planning on playing the game 3 times exactly the same? I played my first playthrough as a good character and my 2nd one making the exact opposite choices. I'm not sure why you would go back to get the trophy when you have to play the game 2 more times.
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You need to remove Leliana from your party when you decide to take the cult route. Defeating the High dragon will result in getting you Wade's Superior Dragonbone armor. One of the best armor around. If you have Wade's Superior Dragonskin armor, the high dragon is pretty easy to defeat as long as you keep your distance.
What level were you when you defeated the High Dragon? My party was all at 11 when I got there. I gave it a go for a while, but after a while it was just pointless. Admittedly, getting the Sacreligious trophy outside of the course of normal play was a waste of time as well. I could have progressed in my game instead, and I won't getty any game time today, more than likely.
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What level were you when you defeated the High Dragon? My party was all at 11 when I got there. I gave it a go for a while, but after a while it was just pointless. Admittedly, getting the Sacreligious trophy outside of the course of normal play was a waste of time as well. I could have progressed in my game instead, and I won't getty any game time today, more than likely.
hhmmm...i don't remember but it was after the borken circle and the red cliff arc. But as I said, if your characters have high fire resistance, the dragon is easy to beat as long as you keep your distance, but being a warrior I suppose that's hard to do. If you equip Leliana with Wade's superior drakeskin along with ring ofages and whatever else fire risistance ring/amulet/belt she can beat the high dragon by herself. It will take a while and about 10-20 potions, but its doable. I had Leliana attack the dragon from a distance with wynne healing me as i go while the other two had died.

Once I reached level 20 with my mage I decided to quit. I came quite close to getting the 250 damage trophy but the best I could do was 237. I went to back to being a Rogue so I could get the two trophy that I messed up on.

By now I pretty much figured out most of the stuff in this game. When I start my warrior character, I should be able to fine tune all the charcters to exactly how I want them..... hopefully...lol
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Old 12-04-2009, 03:39 PM   #470
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ok, I'm officially addicted to this game. Not very far in (just finished a majority of the quests in the first real town) but I can't stop playing! It seems like I'm supposed to now go around the world trying to remind all the groups (dwarves, elves, mages) of the old treaties. Without spoiling anything, can I go anywhere from here? It's up to me which group I decide to go to first?
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ok, I'm officially addicted to this game. Not very far in (just finished a majority of the quests in the first real town) but I can't stop playing! It seems like I'm supposed to now go around the world trying to remind all the groups (dwarves, elves, mages) of the old treaties. Without spoiling anything, can I go anywhere from here? It's up to me which group I decide to go to first?
Yes, but where you decide to go in what order, what you decide to do there and whom you take along all may impact future quests. Choose wisely! That is the biggest challenge of the first playthrough. Some things can be very difficult later on, if poor decisions are made early.
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Yes, but where you decide to go in what order, what you decide to do there and whom you take along all may impact future quests. Choose wisely! That is the biggest challenge of the first playthrough. Some things can be very difficult later on, if poor decisions are made early.
Okay, thanks for the warning!
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One more note, The dwarf city part of the plot is very long and the end is quite difficult. I reccomend going there, getting quests for the outside world, and the town quests up to going "underground", then head back around level 15 or so. Im sure its do able earlier, but there are lots of monsters in big groups and some hard hitting bosses too.
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One more note, The dwarf city part of the plot is very long and the end is quite difficult. I reccomend going there, getting quests for the outside world, and the town quests up to going "underground", then head back around level 15 or so. Im sure its do able earlier, but there are lots of monsters in big groups and some hard hitting bosses too.
Thanks, I'll definitely keep that in mind!
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Yes, but where you decide to go in what order, what you decide to do there and whom you take along all may impact future quests. Choose wisely! That is the biggest challenge of the first playthrough. Some things can be very difficult later on, if poor decisions are made early.
You can go in any order and the stroyline really doesn't change much. Who you take on certain quest and the decision you make during those quest will have the biggest impact. I've gone through pretty much every different directions possible. The easiest would be doing the DLC missions to get your character some exp. pts and some pretty cool gear. As for the 4 major arcs, The broken circle would be the easiest as wynne joins or party (or not). I found the one in the forest the hardest mainly due to the enemies you encounter trying to obtain the Juggernaut armor.
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One more note, The dwarf city part of the plot is very long and the end is quite difficult. I reccomend going there, getting quests for the outside world, and the town quests up to going "underground", then head back around level 15 or so. Im sure its do able earlier, but there are lots of monsters in big groups and some hard hitting bosses too.
When you do go to the Deep Roads (underground) make sure to take Shale with you (the golem who joins you from one of DLC missions).
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Thanks Beefbowl! I guess I didn't even know you could do the DLC mission so early. I will probably download it today, just so I at least have the option to go through with it.
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Not really..

Silverfang (longsword) = free
Faith's edge (battleaxe) = free
Majolaine's Recurve (longbow) =free
Rose's Thorn (dagger) = free
Juggernaut (armor) = free
Wade's Dragonscale Armor = free (kind of)

then you look at the mages stuff..

Staff of the Magister Lord (staff) = 100+
Reaper's Vestments (robe) = 100+

Is the 130g sword better than the silverfang?

at this point it doesn't really matter as Wynne left my party so I no longer need any mage stuff. Had to waste some magic spells so I could give Morrigan Heal and group heal.

Those of you who have played mage, what spells did you liked the best. I was liking inferno in the begining but lately its become useless as many enemies were immune to fire. I also wasn't a big fan of earthquake and blizzard as my own guys can't pass the physical resistance but my enemies could. Mass paralyze wasn't very efficent for me as I only get half my enemies so it was kind of a waste. I did find Paralyze useful for freezing elite enemies though. Currently I'm using tempest and found it useful and haven't met an enemy that is immune to lighting. Pretty soon I will be trying out Chain lighting and deathcloud.
What about spell weaver its the one for arcane warrior mages.

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Guys, got the game yesterday from Amazon and played through the first chapter (?). I just met King Calaith. I like the game so far. Nothing groundbreaking (yet) but I can see how the stat/skill-building and interaction system will be addicting. I can see myself investing some quality time with Dragon Age Origins.

My only real complaint are the generic and quite frankly ugly visuals. I'm not a graphics snob (although I love my 2D handdrawn!), but this game is downright one of the worst looking games that has come out in recent memory! Even Oblivion, a launch game essentially looks tons better than DAO.
They are better then what you might think.. you just don't notice how great they are yet.

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Leliana sure is hard to get into the sack! Her approval rating is through the roof, and I still can't seem to choose the right dialog options. She still harps on me about Morrigan. She's very high maintenance!

Finished the Urn of Sacred Ashes quest late last night. I was surprised as Hell at how the end sequences played out.
[Show spoiler]I did not need to fight the high dragon, as I expected I would, which is a good thing, since the times I tried were finished practically before I started. I'll have to go back and try again later, but for now I need to go back and replay the final sequence in favor of the cult, just for the other trophy. For those who have played this, is there any advantage to killing the dragon at this point? How the other decision plays out will let me determine the best way to go in a future playthrough. That last battle against the shades of my own party was very tough. I had only one party member surviving at the end of that one, after several tries. I did not kill Brother Genitivi. He has something to give me later, and I'm still trying to get on with Leliana. I was nice to him. Did anyone play this by killing the guardian?
But, at least now I can move on with the story. I ended up having to destroy a bunch of loot on this quest, due to lack of capacity.
First the flower is a good start from the town with the
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by the mill, also Leliana pretty low maintenance for lawful good, but there is a conversation choice that can blow your chance with Leliana.

Of course Leliana likes to mind rape Alister later in the game kinda funny when you find out her truth past.

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Played a couple more hours and things just got a lot more interesting! Just got Morrigan in my party and am looking forward to some more playtime later today. A couple questions though...

1. Can you heal your teammates with potions without switching to them? I can't seem to target them with the reticule to do so.
No its not possible to walk up to your team mates and force feed them a potion lol :P, either create a tatic that says when you get below x% health drink a pot.
2. How do I create potions/traps/etc. Admittedly, I haven't spent much time trying to figure out how, but if someone could explain it to me, that'd be great.
If you have a receipe and the herbalism skill just go to your wheel and I think go to potions and select the option to create a potion.
3. I've only really met one shopkeeper so far (the quartermaster in the camp where you fight against the horde with King Calain and co) - can the items I sell to him be bought back from any shopkeeper later on in the game? Do they even stay in his inventory?
The shop keepers do not share an inventory with each other. If you sell something you need you have to hunt down the shop keeper to get it back.
4. Is there a storage area where you can keep your excess goods? Please no spoilers if it's something like "once you get your castle".
Im told of 2 places one connected with dlc and the other im uncertain of.
5. Adding onto point 4, does the game bog down like Oblivion did if you have too many items floating around? Is that why there is a "destroy item" option? Alot of times you end up carrying a crapload of useless and stupid items that have so little value there not worth actually carrying to sell.. you can destroy them and pick up a new item that is worth more. I mean when it comes down to it picking up plate or destroy 1 bronze leather hat.. the leather hat will be destroyed.

Thanks for all your guy's help and please let me know if you need clarification on any of my questions.
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1. You either have to switch to character or use a tactics slot to use health poultices, until you have a character who can heal, which requires herbalism. I haven't been able to do it by targeting. A character with healing magic can heal your party without herbalism, such as magic spells.
2. Creating potions and traps require skills that some characters can acquire during levelling, as well as ingredients, recipes and equipment to make them.
3. No. I'm not sure, if they stay in inventory. The individual shop keepers keep there own inventory, there are very unique last taps in a shop keep store, one only lists things you purchased from him, and the other is stuff you sold him. You have the option to sell back or buy back from those two tabs.
4. You can buy backpacks to increase storage capacity
Backpacks rock.
5. Never played Oblivion, so I don't know what you mean. So far, I have not found it necessary to retain too many items. Destroy is necessary when mid-questing you exceed your capacity, and you want to pick up a great weapon or piece of armor or a gift item. You can then easily ditch the leather boots or iron ring in your backpack. Agreed
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I figured it was about armor, all things considered. Will Leliana's presence keep me from being able to do it, or will I just lose a lot of approval points? I don't plan on playing through from that point, just getting the trophy and then going back to my other save game.
Leliana does not care if you kill the dragon, if your a mage you might consider killing the cultist, the cult leader drops a very powerful sword (spell weaver which can only be used by arcane warriors).

If you cannot kill the high dragon at the time of visiting the place you can reattempt to kill the high dragon later by returning later.

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A crap load of fire resistance, +stamina/mana, + defense, +stamina/mana regen, and a very very high AC for a very low fatigue value.

I have Alister in Juggarnaught, and Leliana in the medium dragon armor i think ill have to double check.


Saying it's just a "crap load of fire resistance" isn't at all representing how good it is. I'd say it's the best armor in the game, easily...and is true regardless of whether you are designed for tanking or for DPS.
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What level were you when you defeated the High Dragon? My party was all at 11 when I got there. I gave it a go for a while, but after a while it was just pointless. Admittedly, getting the Sacreligious trophy outside of the course of normal play was a waste of time as well. I could have progressed in my game instead, and I won't getty any game time today, more than likely.
I have to admit I chose to return later to try this.

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hhmmm...i don't remember but it was after the borken circle and the red cliff arc. But as I said, if your characters have high fire resistance, the dragon is easy to beat as long as you keep your distance, but being a warrior I suppose that's hard to do. If you equip Leliana with Wade's superior drakeskin along with ring ofages and whatever else fire risistance ring/amulet/belt she can beat the high dragon by herself. It will take a while and about 10-20 potions, but its doable. I had Leliana attack the dragon from a distance with wynne healing me as i go while the other two had died.

Once I reached level 20 with my mage I decided to quit. I came quite close to getting the 250 damage trophy but the best I could do was 237. I went to back to being a Rogue so I could get the two trophy that I messed up on.

By now I pretty much figured out most of the stuff in this game. When I start my warrior character, I should be able to fine tune all the charcters to exactly how I want them..... hopefully...lol
Alister with the juggernaught armor was the one who finished the high dragon off in my game anyway

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ok, I'm officially addicted to this game. Not very far in (just finished a majority of the quests in the first real town) but I can't stop playing! It seems like I'm supposed to now go around the world trying to remind all the groups (dwarves, elves, mages) of the old treaties. Without spoiling anything, can I go anywhere from here? It's up to me which group I decide to go to first?
Yes but I suggest heading to that town a little north to start off with, to pick up 2 potential characters and do some questing, and resupply.

The chantry board has quests to give you.

Then wherever you want, but take note how close that town is to enermy held territory, as you play the shroud of darkness continues to move foward across the land.

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One more note, The dwarf city part of the plot is very long and the end is quite difficult. I reccomend going there, getting quests for the outside world, and the town quests up to going "underground", then head back around level 15 or so. Im sure its do able earlier, but there are lots of monsters in big groups and some hard hitting bosses too.
Yeah I kinda saved that one for last.
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What about spell weaver its the one for arcane warrior mages.



Yes but I suggest heading to that town a little north to start off with, to pick up 2 potential characters and do some questing, and resupply.

The chantry board has quests to give you.

Then wherever you want, but take note how close that town is to enermy held territory, as you play the shroud of darkness continues to move foward across the land.



Yeah I kinda saved that one for last.

I forgotten about the spell weaver. Definitely good for an arcane warrior but not for your regular mage.

You're forced to go to Loering, after that it's free roaming. Loering will be around as long as you don't complete any of the 4 major story arcs.

Red cliff is also an easy quest to do.
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dk3dknight, where have you been?! Thanks for the lengthy responses. I did pick up the two characters last night and think I've done all the quests the town currently has to offer.

Another question - if I recruit everyone I possibly can recruit I can imagine your party getting quite large. Is it the case that most story-related characters stay with you or do they come and go (no spoilers, please!).
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