Warner Bros. Says Goodbye to Female-Lead Films

[J_UNTITLED]

Horrible and what a slap in the face to audiences.

[D1-2005]

thats messed up, wonder what kind of feminist outlash this will cause?

[BTBuck1]

One word: Elektra.

After watching that bomb, I don't blame em.

Look, they are in the business to make money, And if these films aren't doing well
At the moment, why invest...just to be fair?
I think the whole "Girl power" / Women are better than men thing is annoying quite frankly.
Now we have one running for president, which I believe if elected would be a huge mistake, but thats a whole other topic.

[WickyWoo]

I keep thinking he just wants to get fired for some reason

[oldmike]

the 1st 5 min of Elektra was good then it went bad,,,
thing is they try to the movie a feel good movie
if it was her going around killing and fighting it whoud have been MUCH better
the little girl story was sooo crapy and did not fit elektra from the comics
infact thats true with all WB made movies with female comic chars
they redo it so she is softer. catwoman was bad do to BAD CG and bad story
elektra is a cold blooded killer who at times kills for good but she always
heartless and in no way careing,

[Palanthian]

Elektra wasn't that bad. It was a quite fun movie, I thought.

As far lacking in women leads....that sorta limits some of the movies I'll go see then. lol Most of my favorite films have female leads, at least the ones I'd go to the movies to see. Now I can't think of one that was made by Warner though...so maybe their problem is just not generally picking the best female lead movies? lol

And you can't blame it on Elektra, that has been out for what seems like forever now...not new enough for everyone's scapegoat. :P

[reiella]

Originally Posted by Palanthian

Elektra wasn't that bad. It was a quite fun movie, I thought.

As far lacking in women leads....that sorta limits some of the movies I'll go see then. lol Most of my favorite films have female leads, at least the ones I'd go to the movies to see. Now I can't think of one that was made by Warner though...so maybe their problem is just not generally picking the best female lead movies? lol

And you can't blame it on Elektra, that has been out for what seems like forever now...not new enough for everyone's scapegoat. :P

Underworld and Aeon Flux are the only ones coming to mind for me specifically.

[ add / edit : clarity ]
I mean in general, not just for WB.
As female lead titles that were 'good'.

[J_UNTITLED]

Originally Posted by BTBuck1

I think the whole "Girl power" / Women are better than men thing is annoying quite frankly.

It's not about "girl power"; it's about males and females getting equal treatment in the medium. One isn't better than the other but when one is treated poorly or like they are less than the other it is not right.

[DrinkMore]

I don't beleive it has anything to do with the fac that they are "women" in general. It has more to do with the fact that most people that go to see movies are men. I see A LOT of guys at movies. That and the other issue has been mentioned, women lead films do not gross as much as male lead films.


I think the real issue at hand here is they have not found the right women For instance, Alien series. Woman lead and one hell of a franchise. Maybe a fluke? Who knows.

Companies need to stop fasting these teeny boppers as leads. Jessica Biel or whatever I don't consider and actor in any shape. She's too young and does not have appeal to the older audience. For some she is just eye candy.

Women that are "eye candy" do nothing for the film in the long run. Which is why they are having problems.


Pick stronger, older women and you might have a hit or two or three. No more of these "girls" that just got done with puberty please.

[DrinkMore]

Originally Posted by J_UNTITLED

It's not about "girl power"; it's about males and females getting equal treatment in the medium. One isn't better than the other but when one is treated poorly or like they are less than the other it is not right.

Bullshit. No offense to women here, but you all wanted equal rights correct? Why is it I don't see you doing the same jobs at Lowes, lifting 50+ pound boxes, bags, tiles. Why are you not trash people? Why are most UPS drivers men?

Sorry, but some women moan and complain about rights, yet when they are suppose to step up, its all about how "feminine" they are and they can't break a nail.


Give me something new thank you. Lastly, I am too tired of hearing about it. Get over it already.

[J_UNTITLED]

Originally Posted by DrinkMore

Bullshit. No offense to women here, but you all wanted equal rights correct? Why is it I don't see you doing the same jobs at Lowes, lifting 50+ pound boxes, bags, tiles. Why are you not trash people? Why are most UPS drivers men?

Sorry, but some women moan and complain about rights, yet when they are suppose to step up, its all about how "feminine" they are and they can't break a nail.


Give me something new thank you. Lastly, I am too tired of hearing about it. Get over it already.

Wow...that is...wow. I won't get into any of that but say I disagree to the highest degree possible (I'm a guy by the way, too).

[blackhawktraffic]

Wow thats ****ed up...can i say the F bomb??

[DrinkMore]

Originally Posted by J_UNTITLED

Wow...that is...wow. I won't get into any of that but say I disagree to the highest degree possible (I'm a guy by the way, too).

Yes, WOW. Why do you disagree? Speak.

I have been around too many women in "power" who were managers or the like. Things ran terribly or were just crappy to begin with. Am I sexist? No. There are very FEW women who know what they are doing. Those that do, mad props to you! But anyway, way off topic and no sense arguing over the net

[WriteSimply]

The Brave One was a great film. And that was by Warner too. It may still find audience on DVD/BD later next year but it's definitely one movie to watch. The fact that it didn't do well may have to do with other factors. I'm surprised that women didn't go in droves to see it.

PS - until men can get pregnant and carry the baby around for nine months until delivery, we'll just have to accept that there are biophysical differences between the sexes that can't be denied. More importantly, social perception and values get into play too.


fuad

[MOONPHASE]

Originally Posted by DrinkMore

Bullshit. No offense to women here, but you all wanted equal rights correct? Why is it I don't see you doing the same jobs at Lowes, lifting 50+ pound boxes, bags, tiles. Why are you not trash people? Why are most UPS drivers men?

Sorry, but some women moan and complain about rights, yet when they are suppose to step up, its all about how "feminine" they are and they can't break a nail.


Give me something new thank you. Lastly, I am too tired of hearing about it. Get over it already.

you know in a way thats kind of true like i would see women doing like all of the paperwork and answering the phone calls and then i see these guys busting their asses and the girls dont do a thing about it they just sit there. i believe what you are trying to say is that there are a good amount of girls who are kind of lazy but older women just do what needs to be done and the younger ones complain like oh too much work and make up excuses like that

[Balian]

Warner is making a solid business decision. What demographic usually goes to action/adventure movies? Males in the 20-35 yr old range maybe? What turns off male viewers the most ...aside from Lara Croft, lame adaption of female lead heroes? Money talks and female lead films ain't doing it. I would not, however; make it public knowledge.

[Canada]

Three of the best movies have female leads

1. Aliens ( is there any man who would take on Ripley I don't think so)
2. Teminator not so much, but T2 for sure
3. Mulholland Dr. This has two female leads, Naomi Watts should have won an Oscar in 2000 for Mulholland Dr. ( Is this the type of movie you were talking about, probably not, oh well)

If it's true it's the most F-ed up thing I've heard regarding movies in a while.

[Kristin Simard]

So, Warner made some films that bombed. So they try to look for the formula that failed and avoid it the next time. They look for a new formula. So for a while we see no films with female leads, then the audience starts wanting something new, so what pops up? Female leads that blow that notion out of the water. Perhaps somthing from another studio, another director, another direction.

As I just said on another thread:

THERE ARE NO SET RULES FOR SUCCESS IN FILMMAKING!

As soon as you think you have something in a box, someone comes along and does something that can't be done and gets away with it like a bandit..all the way to the bank.

[gand41f]

Wow that's a seriously weird thing to say. I love movies with female leads (or at least a co-lead female role). Besides the ones listed already, Ultraviolet, Enough, Hollow Man (OK that's supposed to be Kevin Bacon, but he's invisible half the time! ), Double Jeopardy, Memoirs of a Geisha, Amelie, A Very Long Engagement, Volver, Black Book, Boys Don't Cry, Closer, Dogville, The English Patient, Chocolat, Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind, Kiki's Delivery Service, The Others, and the list goes on and on....

enjoy
gandalf

[MOONPHASE]

Originally Posted by gand41f

Wow that's a seriously weird thing to say. I love movies with female leads (or at least a co-lead female role). Besides the ones listed already, Ultraviolet, Enough, Hollow Man (OK that's supposed to be Kevin Bacon, but he's invisible half the time! ), Double Jeopardy, Memoirs of a Geisha, Amelie, A Very Long Engagement, Volver, Black Book, Boys Don't Cry, Closer, Dogville, The English Patient, Chocolat, Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind, Kiki's Delivery Service, The Others, and the list goes on and on....

enjoy
gandalf

you do realize that some of those are anime female roles i think the main point is live action female lead roles