a. Can't decide which one to choose

[Tony5272]

Can someone help guide me on which subwoofer to purchase? My budget is between $350 -$450. Nothing over $450. I'm looking at a subwoofer size 10in. or 12in. It is a finished basement. I put a curtain to divide the room because it is a big area. So the room dimensions are 12feet by 17feet. Thats the area I will be watching my movies in. I'm going to use the sub mainly for movies & videogames. Very little music. I want to feel the bass hit me but I don't need it to bring the house down. Also the only place I really could put the subwoofer is right next to the left front speaker tower against the wall. So I want the subwoofer to look nice & not really be an eyesore. Anyway, these are my choices narrowed down in no specific order:

1. Elemental Designs A2-300 12in $350
2. Outlaw LFM-1 Compact 10in. $399
3. Klipsch SW-450 10in. $449
4. Venturi V1020 10in $ 349
5. Venturi V1220 12in $449
6. HSU VTF-1 10in $449
7. HSU STF-2 10in $349

I have no way of testing or listening to any on these subs unfortunately. Just curious what your top two picks would be and why.
Thanks for any input or ideas. I'm actually leaning toward the ED A2-300 or HSU STF-2.

[Dase]

Add this one to the list:

SVS PB10-NSD 10in $449

SVS

Out of those listed my top two choices are the SVS and the ED.

[Fors*]

The SVS sub would get my vote too......the other choices I like that you posted would be the Hsu or Outlaw too.

[GeologyNut]

Originally Posted by forsberg21

The SVS sub would get my vote too......the other choices I like that you posted would be the Hsu or Outlaw too.

+1 FTW, SVS all the way, you should consider it!

[DangeRuss]

Originally Posted by GeologyNut

+1 FTW, SVS all the way, you should consider it!

It looks like there's gona be a theme here

[GeologyNut]

Originally Posted by DangeRuss

It looks like there's gona be a theme here

No not at all!

[kurtis21]

I feel that you can NEVER go wrong with Klipsch!!

[arrt vandelay]

the eD a2-300 or hsu stf-2 get my votes. i've owned an stf-2 and loved it. currently, i own an a2-300 and love it. of the subs you listed the a2-300 will probably provide you w/ the most output, and either the hsu stf-2, vtf-1 or outlaw lfm-1 compact would provide the most accurate, musical bass.

the svs pb10-nsd is a great performer as well, but w/ its $449 pricetag plus shipping, i think the eD and hsu sub(the stf-2, not the vtf-1) are better choices within your budget...

[JasonR]

Elemental Designs A7-900 ($2200 ID/SI): 116 points (63-53)
Epik Conquest ($1599 ID): 112 points (60-52)
SVS PB13-Ultra ($1599 ID): 109 points (57-52)
Epik Castle ($999 ID): 109 points (59-50)
AV123 MFW-15 Duals: 109 points (56-53) (note, duals were tested as duals are offered as a package) (Note: As of 3-09, based on many reports of amp failures due to what has been called faulty parts being substituted into the MFW-15's amplifier, this rating is under question until the amp issue is resolved.)
Creative Sounds Dual SDX-15 driver + Behringer EP-2500 Amp + Behringer DEQ2496 ($1630 ID): 105 points (57-48)
JL Audio Fathom 113 ($3500 BM): 103 points (53-50)
AV123 MFW-15 ($699 ID): 103 points (53-50) (Note: As of 3-09, based on many reports of amp failures due to what has been called faulty parts being substituted into the MFW-15's amplifier, this rating is under question until the amp issue is resolved.)
Def Tech Trinity ($3000 BM): 102 points (54-48)
Velodyne DD-18 ($5000 BM): 100 points (50-50)
ACI Maestro ($2400 ID): 97 points (47-50)
eD A5-350 ($715 ID/SI): 96 points (50-46)
JL Audio Fathom 112 ($2600 BM): 95 points (45-50)
Hsu VTF-3 HO + Turbo ($999 ID): 94 points (47-47)
Hsu VTF-3 HO w/o Turbo ($899 ID): 92 points (45-47)
Hsu VTF-3 Mark III + Turbo ($799 ID): 92 points (45-47)
Epik Valor ($549 ID): 91 points (44-47)
Hsu VTF-3 Mark III w/o Turbo ($699 ID): 91 points (45-46)
SVS PB12-Ultra: 90 points (47-43)
Axiom EP-500 ($1230 ID/SI): 90 points (43-47)
Hsu VTF-2 Mark III + Turbo ($599 ID): 88 points (42-46)
SVS PB12-Plus/2 ($1299 ID): 87 points (47-40)
SVS PB12-NSD ($599 ID): 86 points (43-43)
Hsu VTF-2 Mark III w/o Turbo ($499 ID): 86 points (40-46)
Rocket UFW-12 ($999 ID): 85 points (provisional) (35-50)
Elemental Designs A2-300 ($350 ID/SI): 83 points (44-39)
SVS PB10-NSD ($429 ID): 83 points (43-40)
Dana Audio 600 ($869 ID): 83 points (36-47)
Rocket X-Sub ($199 ID): 78 points (34-44)
BIC H-100 ($229 eBay): 78 points (40-38)
Rocket Tyke: 60 points (If you care, PM me ... )

Pending subwoofers ...

http://www.tweakcityaudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11

The eD would be my choice.

[Twitch9]

I would add Paradigm DSP-3100 to the list it's around $450

[KingLeonidas300]

I have the a2-300 and looking to potentially get a second.

[Driver_King]

I would suggest the A2-300.

[Tony5272]

Originally Posted by forsberg21

The SVS sub would get my vote too......the other choices I like that you posted would be the Hsu or Outlaw too.

Just ordered the HSU STF-2 today. I'm hoping I made the right choice. But from other sites I've been on, seems to be right for me.

[mr.hidef]

My Blu brother.....this should be an easy one for you.


-think eD-.......

[ZedsDead]

Originally Posted by Tony5272

Just ordered the HSU STF-2 today. I'm hoping I made the right choice. But from other sites I've been on, seems to be right for me.

Congrats, I think you are going to love it.

[callas01]

I will tell you that the Hsu will be a great sub, I spent a lot of time on the phone with Pete Hsu and talking about their company and subs and really wanted to get one of their VTF line subs. Ultimately I got the eD, but mostly because I have young kids that like to 'touch' and with all the switches and tuning tools on the back of the sub will cause temptation for my kids(3, 6, one on the way) my wife and I figured less is more in this case.... Next time I get a sub, my sights will be set on Hsu or Outlaw, but I expect that the eD will last me the next 8-10 years.

Anyways, Congrats. Let us know what you think of it. There is a Hsu owners thread, perhaps you could revive that thread with the LOVE you will have for your sub and we will find more Hsu owners on this site from now on.....

The Hsu will have an almost completely flat response from about 25-150 hz. Roll off will begin about 25 hz and you should see it go down to probably about 20-22 hz easily before it really drops off, once it is in your room and setup.

[Tony5272]

Originally Posted by callas01

I will tell you that the Hsu will be a great sub, I spent a lot of time on the phone with Pete Hsu and talking about their company and subs and really wanted to get one of their VTF line subs. Ultimately I got the eD, but mostly because I have young kids that like to 'touch' and with all the switches and tuning tools on the back of the sub will cause temptation for my kids(3, 6, one on the way) my wife and I figured less is more in this case.... Next time I get a sub, my sights will be set on Hsu or Outlaw, but I expect that the eD will last me the next 8-10 years.

Anyways, Congrats. Let us know what you think of it. There is a Hsu owners thread, perhaps you could revive that thread with the LOVE you will have for your sub and we will find more Hsu owners on this site from now on.....

The Hsu will have an almost completely flat response from about 25-150 hz. Roll off will begin about 25 hz and you should see it go down to probably about 20-22 hz easily before it really drops off, once it is in your room and setup.

Thanks, I have a little kids too. A 2yr old & a 1yr old. But right now my setup is in the basement so I'm in the clear right now with them touching anything. I have a question about the spikes on the sub. The sub will be on a pergo floor against a wall. I heard that it can vibrate on the floor if you don't have a carpet under it or some kind of coasters for the spikes. Any of this true & if so what the best solution. I'm kind of not liking the idea of putting a little carpet/mat under the sub. Any ideas?

[callas01]

Originally Posted by Tony5272

Thanks, I have a little kids too. A 2yr old & a 1yr old. But right now my setup is in the basement so I'm in the clear right now with them touching anything. I have a question about the spikes on the sub. The sub will be on a pergo floor against a wall. I heard that it can vibrate on the floor if you don't have a carpet under it or some kind of coasters for the spikes. Any of this true & if so what the best solution. I'm kind of not liking the idea of putting a little carpet/mat under the sub. Any ideas?

Try that...

http://www.amazon.com/Auralex-GRAMMA.../dp/B0002D0B4U

[Tony5272]

Originally Posted by callas01

Try that...

http://www.amazon.com/Auralex-GRAMMA.../dp/B0002D0B4U

Thanks I think I will. I see the come in all different sizes. I have to find one that matches close to my sub.

[Tony5272]

Originally Posted by callas01

Try that...

http://www.amazon.com/Auralex-GRAMMA.../dp/B0002D0B4U

Do you think the Auralex SubDude 15"x15" Isolation Riser will fit my subwoofer. The HSU subwoofer is 14"W 18"D I'm wondering if that platform is big enough for the feet to fit on. Doesn't look like it. Looks like the back of the sub feet will hang off. I'm hoping the location of the feet on the subwoofer will just make it. Anybody have an opinion on that? Anything would be appreciated. Heres a link to the platform: http://www.truesoundcontrol.com/products/SUBDUDE.html


Link to the HSU STF-2 http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/stf-2.html