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Old 02-22-2010, 12:28 AM   #1
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I don't really think that horror movies need in-depth explanations as to why the antagonist is alive in the sequel.

Logan
BUT.....

Halloween 1 (2006) set him up to be human, so it requires an explanation.

The original Halloween 2 didn't need to explain this (and it didn't) because at that point, the viewers of the 1978 film were convinced of the "unnatural" boogieman.
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Old 02-22-2010, 01:05 AM   #2
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You're going to be working a hard uphill battle to convince people that Zombie's Meyers has the same amount of humanity displayed as Carpenter's Meyers....a very hard uphill battle.

Nothing in the 1978 or 1981 version shows that he's human. You see a brief glimpse of him as a child and the rest is up to the viewer's interpretation.

Zombie's version did everything it could to put a human in the shell, almost scene by scene by building up a more "humane" side of Meyers. This is a huge fault on everyone's list.

You finish watching the originals thinking "Wow, that is the boogieman...I have no clue who that "person" really is..."

You finish watching Zombie's version thinking "Wow, that's a normal person that has been treated like dirt all his life, and that he has certain feelings for his baby sister".

Just sayin.

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Old 02-22-2010, 02:30 AM   #3
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Re: the title of this thread. No, Rob, don't stop making movies.

IMO, the man is a talented director regardless of what you think of his scripting abilities. I consider The Devil's Rejects to be a modern horror classic. Personally, I've enjoyed every movie he's made so far, even Halloween 2 (Don't get the hatred for that one). Zombie's Myers is supposed to be different than the original. That's the whole point. Otherwise, they could have just kept making sequels. Look at all the various takes on Dracula over the years. It's the same idea here, a different take on Myers. And I appreciate him for it. If I want classic Myers, I'll watch one of the old movies. There's more than enough of them.
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Old 02-22-2010, 02:39 AM   #4
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I think Rob should stop making movies in General. Haven't seen a single thing directed by him that I did enjoy.
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Old 02-22-2010, 02:43 AM   #5
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I think Rob should stop making movies in General. Haven't seen a single thing directed by him that I did enjoy.
Then don't watch his movies. The man has fans. There's no reason why he should stop making movies. Nobody's forcing anybody to watch anything they don't want to.
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Old 02-22-2010, 03:09 AM   #6
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Then don't watch his movies. The man has fans. There's no reason why he should stop making movies. Nobody's forcing anybody to watch anything they don't want to.
Jeez nice of you to be rude about it. I am forced to watch his movies and I have a good reason as well (not being sarcastic). So don't assume things before making a statement.

Plus what happened to respecting other's opinion even if you disagree with it. I had an opinion and shared it.

Anyways, no hard feelings from me and hope you feel the same way.
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Old 02-22-2010, 03:19 AM   #7
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The OP has too much time on his hands. I've never liked Zombie's music but his films are decent and not one of the best. His movies are good to watch if you're in the mood for a shallowed storyline and brutal murders.
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Old 02-22-2010, 03:46 AM   #8
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Then don't watch his movies. The man has fans. There's no reason why he should stop making movies. Nobody's forcing anybody to watch anything they don't want to.
I agree with this comment.

Also, the OP is why I don't blind-buy movies, there's too much risk with something that I may or may not like.

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Then don't watch his movies. The man has fans. There's no reason why he should stop making movies. Nobody's forcing anybody to watch anything they don't want to.
i would much rather have Zombie making films then making horrible albums like Hellbilly Deluxe 2
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i would much rather have Zombie making films then making horrible albums like Hellbilly Deluxe 2
What was so bad about Hellbilly Deluxe II? It reminded me of his first solo album, something he had lost in both The Sinister Urge & Educated Horses. The single "What?" is probably one of the best songs he's ever recorded.
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Luckily I have not seen it. Why was Rob Zombie allowed to make it? Why did Hollywood give him millions of dollars to make it? Because he has sold 15 million music albums. Hollywood producers are greedy money-mongering *******s.
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Luckily I have not seen it. Why was Rob Zombie allowed to make it? Why did Hollywood give him millions of dollars to make it? Because he has sold 15 million music albums. Hollywood producers are greedy money-mongering *******s.
I haven’t either and would rather go to the dentist than watch garbage like this. Why does everyone that does music assume they’ll be good at movies and vice versa? I can’t stand cross industry people since they usually suck at one or the other. Hell, Rob Zombie was annoying as a musician too, if you can even call him that. Cmon.
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Luckily I have not seen it. Why was Rob Zombie allowed to make it? Why did Hollywood give him millions of dollars to make it? Because he has sold 15 million music albums. Hollywood producers are greedy money-mongering *******s.
Easy answer. Rob was a bankable director at the time. That movie made $60M off of him, and held the highest opening Labor Day weekend until just recently. I don't really like the movie, but there it is.
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Luckily I have not seen it. Why was Rob Zombie allowed to make it? Why did Hollywood give him millions of dollars to make it? Because he has sold 15 million music albums. Hollywood producers are greedy money-mongering *******s.
THanks for resurrecting a thread for your insightful *****ing.
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Old 03-08-2024, 09:41 AM   #15
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Luckily I have not seen it. Why was Rob Zombie allowed to make it? Why did Hollywood give him millions of dollars to make it? Because he has sold 15 million music albums. Hollywood producers are greedy money-mongering *******s.
Ok, ... my apologies to Rob Zombie if he did a good and honest work of art here with lots of talent and integrity. If so, let him prosper. For all I know he may even be a better film director than John Carpenter. My post was aimed at Hollywood procedure in general. Too much commercial and debased pc garbage coming out of that place.
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