Movies Others Loved But You Hated

[mjbethancourt]

Originally Posted by kotsedriver

Did I say Memento before? If not, then I just didn't like the way it was filmed.

Strip away that odd chronology gimmick, and it's a completely worthless movie. The 'Memento' Seinfeld episode was better than 'Memento'.

[Mac08j]

Originally Posted by mjbethancourt

Inglourious Basterds.

It's by far Tarantino's worst film, (OK, maybe not... I never saw 'Deathproof', so that one might be worse): it has a thin and implausible story, all of its halfway-decent scenes and sets are lifted straight from other movies, the dialogue ranges from anachronistic to incongruous to pointless, (really, Quentin, it's not exactly knee-slapping humor to have all your characters say "Bingo!" in all of your movies... it was never funny, and now it's just old). I really like some of his movies, but I think this one totally missed. I'm puzzled by the popularity and critical acclaim for it.




What does Chris Bridges have to do with 'Halloween'? Did you mean ludicrous?



Yep, James Cameron has just "conned" hundreds of millions of people into believing they had a great time watching a very entertaining movie, which you haven't seen, but can still authoritatively say it is "god awful". I wish I had that superpower, to be able to know exactly how good or bad a movie is without even seeing it.

1. good point with the misspelling my bad

2. For sure agree with you on Inglorious Basterds. Way overrated and I really thought Brad Pitt was awful in it.

[mjbethancourt]

Originally Posted by Mac08j

1. good point with the misspelling my bad

I was just having some fun with ya.

2. For sure agree with you on Inglorious Basterds. Way overrated and I really thought Brad Pitt was awful in it.

Brad Pitt doesn't act, he gets filmed being Brad Pitt... which would work just fine in something like a romantic comedy or buddy-pic; the problem is that he lands a lot of great roles, which he then mucks-up with his non-acting.

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[Lopan]

Originally Posted by jadedeath

That was the entire point of Wanted though, they had special powers that allowed them to do unrealistic things with firearms... like shooting the wings off a fly.

I'm just saying, if you ignore the basic point of the movie, then of course you're probably not going to like it. Movies are designed to be silly in that way {for the most part} and if the firearms use is the worst you can find wrong with a movie, then I think that you're being a little too over critical. Especially with Wanted, which is a movie that's supposed to be super unrealistic with how the firearms work.

Edited to add: I do respect your opinion on it, it was pretty silly, but that was the entire point I think...

Logan

Yes, alot of people with there so called "opinions" totally crush movies with unrealistic situations, forgetting that IT'S A FREAK'N MOVIE!!!! I love Wanted for what it was and I never read the comics. I took it as a fantasy gun play movie and I enjoyed it. Don't understand the hate for District 9 as well, so much better than other movies and it was original as well.

[Idioteque...]

What has it become cool to hate on Avatar?

Inglourious Basterds works because it's quirky different and has great acting and the writing is pretty good and it's shot in a well manner. That's why it works as a film. Sure it's historically inaccurate, but it's a fun ridiculous action/drama/comedy adventure. So it works. People enjoy that. It's smart not silly like Transformers. It doesn't deserve best picture, I can list 5 movies that deserve it more than it does.

As for Avatar, Cameron didn't con anyone or he might have? Cliche story? Yes. Technology was fantastic? No doubt about that. Avatar showed how far movies can really go. Just like Titanic showed the amazingness of Cgi, Avatar totally made a world and civilization out of cgi and the 3d and sound were quite impressive. Good action too and it was a good time. It's a story that's been done over and over again but a good story. I say the only way to enjoy this film is Imax 3D because that's how it lives up to its full potential. Surely I'll take movies like Last Samurai over this but it wasn't a waste of money to watch. It was fun, the only problem is, can this film maintain fun on bluray and stuff? It doesn't deserve Best Picture but it deserves Best Director and best effects and yada yada.

[mjbethancourt]

Originally Posted by Lopan

Yes, alot of people with there so called "opinions" totally crush movies with unrealistic situations, forgetting that IT'S A FREAK'N MOVIE!!!! I love Wanted for what it was and I never read the comics. I took it as a fantasy gun play movie and I enjoyed it. Don't understand the hate for District 9 as well, so much better than other movies and it was original as well.

This is true; but the question remains: how much slack should be cut to a movie? At some point, it just becomes a farce, and an unintended farce is pitiful. I'd class 'Wanted' as an unintended farce.

Originally Posted by Idioteque...

What has it become cool to hate on Avatar?

... because it is immensely popular. There will always be a certain contingent of people trying to score cool points by taking shots at anything that is so monumentally popular. (see George Lucas/Star Wars bashing, for an example).

[jadedeath]

Originally Posted by mjbethancourt

This is true; but the question remains: how much slack should be cut to a movie? At some point, it just becomes a farce, and an unintended farce is pitiful. I'd class 'Wanted' as an unintended farce.

I'd have to disagree, if you hate on a movie because of a special power that the main characters have {which is essentially the entire plot of the movie} and rip on it because it's unrealistic in that regard, I feel that you're probably missing the point.

It would be like ripping on Superman Returns because he can fly and not because the movie sucked.

... because it is immensely popular. There will always be a certain contingent of people trying to score cool points by taking shots at anything that is so monumentally popular. (see George Lucas/Star Wars bashing, for an example).

It's true.

Logan

[Idioteque...]

Originally Posted by mjbethancourt

... because it is immensely popular. There will always be a certain contingent of people trying to score cool points by taking shots at anything that is so monumentally popular. (see George Lucas/Star Wars bashing, for an example).

If people actually paid attention to Star Wars, it suffers very bad from a horrible script and some overacting and underacting. The reason it works, 1. it was totally different and crafted a new world (sort of like Avatar) and was immensely ahead of its time. and 2. It's got a good core story. Little boy with good intention grows up wanting to help people like his mother only to be seduced by the dark side and becoming the most ruthless person in the galaxy and his son is raised to stop him only for him to find redemption.

It sounds great on paper and it's what I enjoy the movie for. I like that story but that movie could benefit from a better script. I see the same problems with Avatar though the story only lack originality but good execution.

[surfdude12]

Originally Posted by mjbethancourt

Strip away that odd chronology gimmick, and it's a completely worthless movie. The 'Memento' Seinfeld episode was better than 'Memento'.

strip away the chronology, and you wouldn't have a movie. there is a specific purpose for it.

you could apply that logic to any film: strip away ___, and you'd have a worthless film. not a very convincing line of argument IMO.

[surfdude12]

Originally Posted by kotsedriver

Did I say Memento before? If not, then I just didn't like the way it was filmed.

there is no other way it could be filmed (or at least not to accomplish the same effect).

[Show spoiler] by going backwards with overlapping segments, nolan withheld from the audience the same information that is being withheld from leonard. he doesn't know what he just did, and neither do we.

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[surfdude12]

Originally Posted by BluraySe7en

I don't stretch none of my credibility Gump is Hollywood at it's worst and so many actors deserved it over Hanks, it was joke he was awarded 2 years in a row.

dude, i'm not the biggest Gump fan, but there is no denying that its a great film and quite possibly one of the most popular films ever made.

[TylerDurden]

Originally Posted by surfdude12

dude, i'm not the biggest Gump fan, but there is no denying that its a great film and quite possibly one of the most popular films ever made.

+1 Not to mention one of the most quoted films, it is rather entertaining.

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[42041]

Originally Posted by surfdude12

dude, i'm not the biggest Gump fan, but there is no denying that its a great film and quite possibly one of the most popular films ever made.

That it's popular is obvious but I don't like its cornball sentimentality or its message. It's one of those movies I liked upon first viewing (which was when I was like, 12 years old) but upon further thought realized that it's manipulative of the audience and shallow and subsequent viewings have only irritated me.

[mjbethancourt]

Originally Posted by jadedeath

I'd have to disagree, if you hate on a movie because of a special power that the main characters have {which is essentially the entire plot of the movie} and rip on it because it's unrealistic in that regard, I feel that you're probably missing the point.

It would be like ripping on Superman Returns because he can fly and not because the movie sucked.

Logan

Yeah, but I'm not talking about super-powers. That's a seperate issue, 'willing suspension of disbelief', and whatnot. I'm talking about something that is un-intentionally implausible. Unique gun skills is one thing, while bad physics (or ignorance of basic physics) is something else. I'm well aware that 'Wanted' derives from a comic book, and that the characters have some sort of "special powers"; I just think it's not a very well-conceived comic book, I think it was written down to a low-juvenile intellectual level, which is a bad fit for an R-rated show that can't sell tickets to 12-year-old boys; and unless I'm mistaken, their "powers" are supposed to be a set of exceptional, impossible skills, and not flat-out "magic powers". There is a big difference.

... but that's not my beef with that movie, anyway; I just thought it was mind-numbingly stupid in just about every way, and it was too hectic for me to enjoy watching it. Watching that movie felt very much like a caffeine overdose or a major anxiety attack. It was unpleasant.

[mjbethancourt]

Originally Posted by surfdude12

strip away the chronology, and you wouldn't have a movie. there is a specific purpose for it.

you could apply that logic to any film: strip away ___, and you'd have a worthless film. not a very convincing line of argument IMO.

Yeah, no kidding there's a purpose, I understand that. Way to point out the obvious. It also happens to be the only purpose of the entire movie.

You do understand the concept of a gimmick, yes? There was absolutely no point to that film, other than "hey, look! The chronology is all out of order! Awesome!" That doesn't make for much of a film.

There is no "logic" to apply: there is no story, nothing of interest to me at all, the whole movie is a 113-minute editing gimmick, and nothing more.

[Fabio13]

Originally Posted by 42041

That it's popular is obvious but I don't like its cornball sentimentality or its message. It's one of those movies I liked upon first viewing (which was when I was like, 12 years old) but upon further thought realized that it's manipulative of the audience and shallow and subsequent viewings have only irritated me.

If you complain about movies being manipulative (or shallow), you´re not gonna enjoy many movies.

I will give you this. It´s very annoying to find out you´ve been manipulated.
Like when I saw "The Road" a couple of days ago, and just couldn´t stop my tears from running during the end, thinking "I should have seen this a long way coming" and "This damned movie manipulated me".
Afterwards I called my mother too check if she actually did birth a boy

[Fabio13]

Originally Posted by Grand Bob

I'm with you on that one. No doubt it is the ground-breaking, cinematic epic that everyone claims, but I just couldn't get into it. What made it even worse is that it was my (at the time) girlfriend's favorite movie, and she modeled her personality after Scarlett O'Hara.

Ouch. So you were either considered a big catch in high society, that she pursued or did she settle with you, until you didn`t give a damn

Seriously, I hope your nest girlfriend is more like Eowyn or another more interesting/likeable movie female.

[Idioteque...]

Originally Posted by mjbethancourt

Yeah, no kidding there's a purpose, I understand that. Way to point out the obvious. It also happens to be the only purpose of the entire movie.

You do understand the concept of a gimmick, yes? There was absolutely no point to that film, other than "hey, look! The chronology is all out of order! Awesome!" That doesn't make for much of a film.

There is no "logic" to apply: there is no story, nothing of interest to me at all, the whole movie is a 113-minute editing gimmick, and nothing more.

You didn't get what the movie was about? The moral of it was that the not taking responsibility for our actions could lead us to be irrational people. It's about guilt. And Machinist another film that explored it made good use of that moral too. Fantastic films. And with the order it's shown in, it heightens the impact of the reveal and why Leonard is crazy.