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Old 03-31-2010, 10:05 PM   #6481
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I'm in Canada and saw one. They were advertising a release for Future Shop.

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Has anyone seen 1 LOTR coming to Blu-ray commercial?

I have not seen 1. Do you find it weird that there is no advertisements for a title this big?
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Old 03-31-2010, 10:19 PM   #6482
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Has anyone seen 1 LOTR coming to Blu-ray commercial?

I have not seen 1. Do you find it weird that there is no advertisements for a title this big?
Nope.




On a semi-related note, my DVDs of the EE came in today. Brand new sealed and in perfect condition - $17 before shipping
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Old 03-31-2010, 11:01 PM   #6483
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That's what I watched and it did not dissapoint. I only watched that one scene however right now I would give PQ 5/5 and AQ 5/5.

It was that impressive.

Wow that is impressive.
How would you rate the PQ on FOTR and TTT?
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Old 03-31-2010, 11:22 PM   #6484
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The sudden change of positive has got me excited for the Blu-Rays! Sorry, I am still going to rent them first because I dunno how many more times I will watch them until the EE's come out...

This a BIT of a strange question but I got a new sub and having probs finding the right balance. Some Blu-Rays sound perfect and others sound too bassy/boomy. Would LOTR Blus be a good "standard" or "5 star audio" to tweak my sound system to? Does this make sense?

You most likely have some room induced humps in your sub freq range (and maybe a null or two). Have you run a sweep with REW, SMS-1, etc.......? I would not use a movie to tweak your sound to. Assuming you have not already done so, get yourself a SPL meter and a test tone disc (such as AVIA or DVE) and do at least a BASIC calibration. If you have Audyssey, you may want to setup your system with that (I dont use Audyssey on my 885, but a lot of people love it). If you have a laptop, DL Room EQ Wizard and run a sweep which will tell you where your peaks and valleys are at, and then you can iron them out if you feel the need through EQ, different placement, etc..........The first step however is finding optimal placement (which I assume you have done?) and then calibrating the sub with your mains.

I could not live without a flat response now as far as my low end is concerned after hearing the difference, especially with music. "Boomy" bass is a common characteristic when a room induced hump in present.

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Old 04-01-2010, 12:06 AM   #6485
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Thanks for your help Todd. I have a thread going on about sub here: https://forum.blu-ray.com/home-theat...subwoofer.html

My next test is placement in my strange shaped room and also.. I've never heard a really well "calibrated" sub so it's hard to know exactly what I am looking for... if that makes sense. How much is a BASIC SPL meter and where is the best place to buy them?

I am looking forward to trying out the cave troll scene from FOTR. That sounded AMAZING on the EE DVDs in my friends 7.1 theatre. Awesome...
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Old 04-01-2010, 12:19 AM   #6486
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Thanks for your help Todd. I have a thread going on about sub here: https://forum.blu-ray.com/home-theat...subwoofer.html

My next test is placement in my strange shaped room and also.. I've never heard a really well "calibrated" sub so it's hard to know exactly what I am looking for... if that makes sense. How much is a BASIC SPL meter and where is the best place to buy them?

I am looking forward to trying out the cave troll scene from FOTR. That sounded AMAZING on the EE DVDs in my friends 7.1 theatre. Awesome...
For music in particular, a calibrated sub is crucial in my opinion........music just sounds so much better when you take care of your peaks and nulls. I bet you would be very surprised at how much cleaner it sounds.

For LFE heavy Movies, I actualy prefer some low end gain if you happen to have a uniform room gain say from ~35hz on down to the limit of your sub. This is just me though and many people prefer a totally flat response (when you get to this point, experiment both ways if you happen to have a nice uniform low end hump and see which way you like best........a lot of people, myself included, do like a house curve, or emphasized VERY low end.......I do prefer staying flat up to about 40hz though before letting my hump take over, and again this is just for LFE heavy type movies such as LOTR, Transformers, Terminator Salvation, etc.............), and I am fortunate in that I have a nice pretty uniform hump from about 40hz on down to ~12 or 13hz to work with as far as creating a house type curve. Switching between this and a nice flat response is easy with something such as the SMS-1 (which is what I use, but there are other options as well) since it has presets that you can save different curves to.

You can get a SPL meter at Radio Shack. It is a crucial component to a good HT and well worth the money

Sorry for getting off topic..........

As far as demo scenes in LOTR as far as audio, man there are so many. The entire Mines of Moria section in FOTR is one of my favorites As bummed as I am about the PQ, I am still excited to hear the audio which from all reports is still amazing (the DVDs were always reference audio discs IMO)!

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Old 04-01-2010, 12:35 AM   #6487
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Has anyone seen 1 LOTR coming to Blu-ray commercial?

I have not seen 1. Do you find it weird that there is no advertisements for a title this big?
They been playing a lot on certain channel's over here in Montreal. Is Future Shop actualy selling them at $49 on Tuesday?
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Old 04-01-2010, 12:36 AM   #6488
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Todd.. I appreciate your detail. To be honest, most of what you said went over my head I am SLOWLY building my home theatre but limited by budget and a wife who thinks it sounds "good enough" I did get a Marantz receiver that does Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD. Awesome.. but my speakers and sub are all over the place between size and quality.

I need to start with the basics and I did follow some suggestions on my other thread and music Blu-Rays sound great but I haven't messed with sub placement. I turned on Transformers 2 and it sounded "big" but very boomy and every bit of bass sounded the "same" -- Make sense?

Yes, about FOTR, I ALWAYS thought the Cave troll scene was SOOO ahead of its time in both CG and audio. Can't wait!

EDIT -- Is there any way to get any DTS-HD or Dolby TrueHD demo blu-Rays on this site or anywhere online? I hate testing one Blu-Ray and then having to put in another for testing. Would be nice to test several movie demo scenes quickly..
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Old 04-01-2010, 12:38 AM   #6489
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Todd.. I appreciate your detail. To be honest, most of what you said went over my head I am SLOWLY building my home theatre but limited by budget and a wife who thinks it sounds "good enough" I did get a Marantz receiver that does Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD. Awesome.. but my speakers and sub are all over the place between size and quality.

I need to start with the basics and I did follow some suggestions on my other thread and music Blu-Rays sound great but I haven't messed with sub placement. I turned on Transformers 2 and it sounded "big" but very boomy and every bit of bass sounded the "same" -- Make sense?

Yes, about FOTR, I ALWAYS thought the Cave troll scene was SOOO ahead of its time in both CG and audio. Can't wait!

It will make a HUGE difference once you get new speakers. I spent way more than I should have and got a full 7.1 Jamo set and, wow, it took my movies to a whole new level!
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Old 04-01-2010, 12:46 AM   #6490
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I have a large Pioneer center and DCM Subwoofer... so those are great but my left/right and surrounds are small Sonys... Either way, I am trying to work with what I have and right now, it sounds "good" but my new DCM sub is POWERFUL for a small room but I am trying to find a happy medium on crossover/level/placement etc. David Foster: Hit man Blu-Ray sounds AWESOME (Music). So does Ratatouille Blu. But Transformers and Iron Man sound really "boomy".

EDIT: Don't want to hijack thread.. but any recommendations for CHEAP but good sounds SMALL speakers?

Back to LOTR, I haven't heard one negative thing said about the audio on the LOTR Blus.. but also, not very many details. Just quick summaries...
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Old 04-01-2010, 12:55 AM   #6491
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I have a large Pioneer center and DCM Subwoofer... so those are great but my left/right and surrounds are small Sonys... Either way, I am trying to work with what I have and right now, it sounds "good" but my new DCM sub is POWERFUL for a small room but I am trying to find a happy medium on crossover/level/placement etc. David Foster: Hit man Blu-Ray sounds AWESOME (Music). So does Ratatouille Blu. But Transformers and Iron Man sound really "boomy".

EDIT: Don't want to hijack thread.. but any recommendations for CHEAP but good sounds SMALL speakers?

Back to LOTR, I haven't heard one negative thing said about the audio on the LOTR Blus.. but also, not very many details. Just quick summaries...
Kilpsch makes the best small speakers for fronts and rears. Here's a link:

http://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-Synerg...0083296&sr=8-5
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Old 04-01-2010, 12:59 AM   #6492
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Todd.. I appreciate your detail. To be honest, most of what you said went over my head I am SLOWLY building my home theatre but limited by budget and a wife who thinks it sounds "good enough" I did get a Marantz receiver that does Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD. Awesome.. but my speakers and sub are all over the place between size and quality.

I need to start with the basics and I did follow some suggestions on my other thread and music Blu-Rays sound great but I haven't messed with sub placement. I turned on Transformers 2 and it sounded "big" but very boomy and every bit of bass sounded the "same" -- Make sense?

Yes, about FOTR, I ALWAYS thought the Cave troll scene was SOOO ahead of its time in both CG and audio. Can't wait!

EDIT -- Is there any way to get any DTS-HD or Dolby TrueHD demo blu-Rays on this site or anywhere online? I hate testing one Blu-Ray and then having to put in another for testing. Would be nice to test several movie demo scenes quickly..
My advice is to enjoy the learning process, and get yourself that SPL meter and a copy of AVIA or Digital Video Essentials and do a basic sound calibration for starters, and of course experiment for optimal sub location Sub EQ is very important IMO, but you can mess with that if/when you are ready
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Old 04-01-2010, 01:01 AM   #6493
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lotr has very good sound especially base but the PQ is not so good
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Old 04-01-2010, 01:10 AM   #6494
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Ok,

So it looks like we have 59.99 at target and now someone posted the Best Buy add - it's also 59.99.

What are the odds that Walmart goes lower to 54.99?

Anyway that's the current prices at a B&M.
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Old 04-01-2010, 01:16 AM   #6495
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Ok,

So it looks like we have 59.99 at target and now someone posted the Best Buy add - it's also 59.99.

What are the odds that Walmart goes lower to 54.99?

Anyway that's the current prices at a B&M.

So, is Amazon going to undercut them? It's rare they get their prices beat by Best Buy.
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Old 04-01-2010, 01:18 AM   #6496
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So, is Amazon going to undercut them? It's rare they get their prices beat by Best Buy.
I wouldn't be surprised if one of the chains gets the price down to $50. That is the magic number for many people.
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Old 04-01-2010, 01:20 AM   #6497
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I wouldn't be surprised if one of the chains gets the price down to $50. That is the magic number for many people.
It's funny you say that because the second I see $49.99, I'm ordering it.
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Old 04-01-2010, 02:18 AM   #6498
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You go ahead and merrily consume garbage. The rest of us will pine for something better.
Wow, you pulled a quote from me from another thread, (which was actually about blu-ray 3D and had absolutely nothing to do with LotR)...

... that amounts to a deliberate misquoting of me. Good job. Great social skills there, I'm sure you make lot's of friends with that kind of nonsense.

I've said several times in this thread that I have no intention of buying this set, that I will wait for the inevitable and already-promised Extended and Remastered Edition.

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EDIT: I just realized you were the same guy that went back and forth in the old Gladiator thread (pointlessly) defending its PQ and saying how all of the complaints were overblown and misrepresentations.

You know, that same one they're remastering and have since said was "terrible" which makes this old post fun to read:

[Deja Vu....
Absolutely amazing. Did the two of you literally spend the whole day reading through all of my 1350+ posts, looking for stuff to bicker with? Do you have any concept of just how insane that is?

Awesome... I've got two new stalkers now. Welcome to the Ignore List, along with the other two stalker/hecklers.
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Old 04-01-2010, 02:28 AM   #6499
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I will wait for the inevitable and already-promised Extended and Remastered Edition.
Out of interest, has it been confirmed that the extended editions will be 'remastered'? I hope they are...
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My tv has dnr ?
yes it does.look in the menu. where it says digital noise reduction[dnr].you have high,med,and low setting,and off. with the high setting you'll see the picture soften.
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