Lord of the Rings Trilogy (Theatrical Versions) - April 6, 2010

[HDPlasma]

Originally Posted by _Bolt_

I'm sure there are, but does anyone have pictures of the individual boxes? I don't feel like sifting through 350 pages, and I was wondering if they're slim boxes, and the cover art

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYY2kEL2kqE

[Q?]

Originally Posted by HDPlasma

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYY2kEL2kqE

He reviews the PQ of Fellowship to be horribly bad.
"it's abysmal, it's kinda like watching a dvd sometimes"

While other scenes "looks absolutely stunning"
But that gets negated when EE and DNR gets apparent again,
he's even harsher at rating the PQ, 1 to 2 stars out of 5

[radagast]

Originally Posted by Q!

He reviews the PQ of Fellowship to be horribly bad.
"it's abysmal, it's kinda like watching a dvd sometimes"

While other scenes "looks absolutely stunning"

And what better place to show it than the well known HD streaming site, youtube.

You know what? The PQ on that youtube video is abysmal.

[kris26]

the format of the vidoe is vc-1 from the avs forums.com

[mredman]

Originally Posted by Q!

He reviews the PQ of Fellowship to be horribly bad.
"it's abysmal, it's kinda like watching a dvd sometimes"

While other scenes "looks absolutely stunning"
But that gets negated when EE and DNR gets apparent again,
he's even harsher at rating the PQ, 1 to 2 stars out of 5

He is lying it is not even CLOSE to the DVD as you can see here

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/8158/fotrdvd06.png
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/4505/lotr7bd.png

And it looks like there is a poster there that disagrees with him very much he says they look spectacular

And here the blu ray definitely looks better then the HDTV broadcast

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1241/lotr6tv.png
http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/8311/lotr6bd.png

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/1893/lotr5tv.png
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/5556/lotr5bd.png

You can cleary see Frodo's foot more clearly on bd screenshot

After seeing these screenshots i am definitely now saying this release is not bad all. Not bad all

[jonmoz]

Well "Q" as i said in a previous post,i have looked at the Blu-ray and Dvd version of "Fellowship" and the Blu-ray is a lot better in terms of picture quality.

I watched both movies on my Pioneer BDP-09FD through my Infocus IN-82 on a 108" screen,for a fair comparison i upscaled the Dvd's to 1080p 24/fps.

[Todd Smith]

Originally Posted by Q!

He reviews the PQ of Fellowship to be horribly bad.
"it's abysmal, it's kinda like watching a dvd sometimes"

While other scenes "looks absolutely stunning"
But that gets negated when EE and DNR gets apparent again,
he's even harsher at rating the PQ, 1 to 2 stars out of 5

He seemed genuine enough to me considering all the examples he gives. It is just one opinion though and again how much these issues bother you or dont bother you is very subjective and depends on many factors. Its not like he is the ONLY one declaring FOTR to have overall bad PQ since many have declared this much that have seen these at this point. Everyone should view it and decide for themselves.

[Grand Bob]

Originally Posted by Q!

He reviews the PQ of Fellowship to be horribly bad.
"it's abysmal, it's kinda like watching a dvd sometimes"

While other scenes "looks absolutely stunning"
But that gets negated when EE and DNR gets apparent again,
he's even harsher at rating the PQ, 1 to 2 stars out of 5

I would imagine alot of it has to do with a "glass half-full or half-empty" mind set. For some, the glass is not only half-empty, it also has a hole in it.

[Todd Smith]

Originally Posted by Grand Bob

I would imagine alot of it has to do with a "glass half-full or half-empty" mind set. For some, the glass is not only half-empty, it also has a hole in it.

Agreed. These issues can really be distracting for some and bring down the whole presentation......obviously this guy is in that camp and he is entitled to his opinion just like the rest of us.

[Q?]

Well, he said that he's seen over 300 Blu-rays and he seems genuine, quite honestly you guys can just accept poor quality all you want, I don't think I will.

[mredman]

Originally Posted by Q!

Well, he said that he's seen over 300 Blu-rays and he seems genuine, quite honestly you guys can just accept poor quality all you want, I don't think I will.

Do you think this is poor

here the blu ray definitely looks better then the HDTV broadcast

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1241/lotr6tv.png
http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/8311/lotr6bd.png

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/1893/lotr5tv.png
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/5556/lotr5bd.png

You can cleary see Frodo's foot more clearly on bd screenshot and the title is more clear as well

After seeing these screenshots i am definitely now saying this release is not bad all. Not bad all

[jonmoz]

I too have seen around 300 blu-ray's so is my opinion any more valid "Q" ?

Of course not,it's down to everyone's own opinion,and reviews by their nature are subjective.

I can't however shake the feeling that this release is attracting some bad reviews not because of it's quality,but because it's not the edition people wanted.

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by Gandalf Stormcrow

He means the cases. The films come in 2 cases, both inside a box. 1 case holds 6 discs and the other case holds the 3 digital copies.

So do I.

[Todd Smith]

Originally Posted by mredman

Do you think this is poor

here the blu ray definitely looks better then the HDTV broadcast

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1241/lotr6tv.png
http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/8311/lotr6bd.png

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/1893/lotr5tv.png
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/5556/lotr5bd.png

You can cleary see Frodo's foot more clearly on bd screenshot and the title is more clear as well

After seeing these screenshots i am definitely now saying this release is not bad all. Not bad all

What about all the examples that show just the opposite? Those must be taken into account as well. and why in the hell do ANY of the shots look better on the HDTV broadcast (as far as fine detail is concerned)? ALL of the blu ray shots shold look better/more detailed but that is FAR from the case

[Q?]

Originally Posted by mredman

Do you think this is poor

here the blu ray definitely looks better then the HDTV broadcast

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1241/lotr6tv.png
http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/8311/lotr6bd.png

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/1893/lotr5tv.png
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/5556/lotr5bd.png

You can cleary see Frodo's foot more clearly on bd screenshot and the title is more clear as well

After seeing these screenshots i am definitely now saying this release is not bad all. Not bad all

Uhm, yes it is poor.

I just don't get it, Blu-ray.com has given it a bad score, Highdefdigest has also given a bad score, the dude in the youtube vid has given it a lower score.

Everything points to a pretty low quality in terms of PQ, it's poor!

[SellmeyourDVD]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Well, as long as they're not dying...

Unless they do an all new digital IP for the EE's they will look the same.

I am curious if people did detailed comparisons between the theatrical and EE transfers on DVD, and what the results were, other than higher bitrate for the EEs being spread over 2 discs.

Sorry, was on my Ipod while taking my morning *ahem* . Spelling skills aren't quite up to par at that point and time in the morning.

come to think of it, my Ipod corrected my spelling but I switched it back.

[Todd Smith]

Originally Posted by jonmoz

I can't however shake the feeling that this release is attracting some bad reviews not because of it's quality,but because it's not the edition people wanted.

Considering the VERY credible sources (both professional and consumer) that have reported and proved these issues, I strongly disagree. Also, if some of these people were doing as you say, why is the actual film and audio scoring so high in these same reviews that are trashing (rightfuly so IMO)the video? If anything were to get a low score for what you suspect to be the case for the low scores, dont you think it would be the actual film itself?? The issues are blatantly obvious, but if they bother you or not and/or if you can even spot them or not is a different matter all together. For those who are sensitive to this and/or know what to look for, this shit sucks to be blunt

Originally Posted by Q!

Uhm, yes it is poor.

I just don't get it, Blu-ray.com has given it a bad score, Highdefdigest has also given a bad score, the dude in the youtube vid has given it a lower score.

Everything points to a pretty low quality in terms of PQ, it's poor!

Not to mention Dave, Xylon, Eric (all of which are proven to be VERY credible), and other consumers...............

[mredman]

Originally Posted by Todd Smith

Considering the VERY credible sources (both professional and consumer) that have reported and proved these issues, I strongly disagree. The issues are blatantly obvious, but if they bother you or not and/or if you can even spot them or not is a different matter all together. For those who are sensitive to this and/or know what to look for, this shit sucks to be blunt



Not to mention Dave, Xylon, Eric (all of which are proven to be VERY credible), and other consumers...............

but there is more that have given a good score
digitalbits,dvdmg, french site, dvdtown and there is some more i can't remember

[DetroitSportsFan]

Originally Posted by mredman

After seeing these screenshots i am definitely now saying this release is not bad all. Not bad all

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u...ngs/Ttthd4.png
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u...ngs/Tttbd4.png

Frodo and Sam have turned to wax!

[Todd Smith]

Originally Posted by mredman

but there is more that have given a good score
digitalbits,dvdmg, french site, dvdtown and there is some more i can't remember

Exactly which is why this is SO subjective. There are MANY factors (screen size, seating distance, general sensitivity, being experienced enough to see the issues in the first place, etc............) that can and will contribute to how much or how little this will bother you. The problem is there are NUMEROUS reports and reviews now that have found severe issues which is a HUGE red flag for those of us with bigger screens, closer seating distances and who are sensitive to these issues If it doesnt bother you that is great, but for those of us who are sensitive, these issues are a HUGE detriment. Many who have reported these issues are VERY well known in the A/V world and have VERY high credibility..........If anything for me, this has helped weed out the reviewers I want to read, and those I dont since this helps find reviewers who closer match my viewing experience. I am sensitive to these issues and I want to read reviews from reviewers who are the same and who are knowledgeable enough to see the issues in the first place.