DENON DBP-1611UD 3-D BD-PLAYER $399, plays SACD's and DVD-Audio discs (3D ready)

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by Paul.R.S

Although true on the one hand, on the other my understanding from Oppo's e-mail responses and firmware notes is that the SA-CD playback glitches have/had to do with a (mis)alignment between data frames and markers signifying the beginning and ending of music tracks. In other words, nothing to do with (BD) copy protection, BD+ or BD-Live. I'm not aware of any other manuf's SA-CD/DVD-A-capable players that has had these kinds of glitches with formats that are now 10 years old--one would think that's plenty of time for manufs and chip makers to resolve such issues.

If we add the (IMO gratuitous) caveat that it's not fair to compare HDMI universals to older, non-HDMI universal players like my Pioneer 563A, that still leaves Denon's prior generations of universal BD players that never had SA-CD "rice krispies." Of course, some people will counter with how pricey those decks are/were, especially compared to the Oppo. Which brings me back to my interest in these new Denons and my hope that the 1611 has analog outs to connect to my Denon 3803.

It was Mediatek (decoder vendor) that had to do some research and come up with the solution against SACD mastering playback issue with data frames that are not aligned with track boundaries. Their decoder is used in a number of players BTW. The Marantz SA-KI Pearl SACD Player for example also had the same issue with SACD ticks between tracks.

The reference to other BD player issues involving media copy protection and BD-Live playback/navigation problems effects current BD players so that was a comment directed to how well Denon manages that aspect with being able to play every BD out there problem free after they release their two new players.