New Rob Enderle article

[Matt X]

that last bit's gotta be wrong - @ the Blu-ray event last week, Disney appeared to be one of BR's biggest backers.

[bdrex28]

Originally Posted by Matt X

that last bit's gotta be wrong - @ the Blu-ray event last week, Disney appeared to be one of BR's biggest backers.

it is wrong, they were specifically upset with HD DVD and say they are 100% behind blu-ray in the article he quoted.

Disney needs to brand their own blu-ray player.

[doctorsteve]

Thats like a headline saying STOCK MARKET CRASH!!! But when you go to the financial page, the market closed up 500 points. A retraction of SOME kind is in order... I agree - Toolshed... total Pants, F'ing Clown Shoes...

[Spankey]

There is so much nonsense in this article. "Amazon has jumped onboard". Yeah, Amazon just looked at all the money to be made by a player firesale they had to follow suit. These companies do not lower price this drastically on their own. Toshiba set the price. They want to move these players.

The Disney comment is completely FUD. There has never been one mention of Disney being "unhappy" with Blu-ray. Instead the guy kind of hints that Disney stock is down, and purposefully makes a false link to Blu-ray. This article is complete horsespit and anyone who has followed this from the beginning is a fool for believing otherwise.

[Steverhcp02]

lol, i knew good ole' bob would rise up form his cave and peek around on the surface with this Wal-Mart thing....way to go bob, keep fighting the good fight, lol....man this guy is awesome

[Ben]

Apparently, reading comprehension isn't a required course at Blogger school.

[SS316SRV]

Originally Posted by Ben

Apparently, reading comprehension isn't a required course at Blogger school.

Are you calling me fat!

[Spankey]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

Are you freakin' kidding me?

Ya gotta love how he trashes his own companies player in the same article. Why should Toshiba even try to make a penny on these things when the cheap crap is better than a more expensive player. Complete BS.

If HD-DVD somehow pulls this thing out, the HT community at large is a bunch of boobs for promoting this S#!t!

[E-Dogg]

Originally Posted by Spankey

There is so much nonsense in this article. "Amazon has jumped onboard". Yeah, Amazon just looked at all the money to be made by a player firesale they had to follow suit. These companies do not lower price this drastically on their own. Toshiba set the price. They want to move these players.

The Disney comment is completely FUD. There has never been one mention of Disney being "unhappy" with Blu-ray. Instead the guy kind of hints that Disney stock is down, and purposefully makes a false link to Blu-ray. This article is complete horsespit and anyone who has followed this from the beginning is a fool for believing otherwise.

Disney is going to be extremely happy when they see their titles released tomorrow on Blu making tons of $ for them.

[dobyblue]

The format actually looks better than the more expensive 1080p player on a 1080p set because of the superior de-interlacing technology in most 1080p sets.

Are you freakin' kidding me?

By: dobyblue
Title: Re: Leopard Launch Wrap, HD DVD vs. Blu-ray, Next-Gen PC Security, Product of the Week
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Your Comments:
“The format actually looks better than the more expensive 1080p player on a 1080p set because of the superior de-interlacing technology in most 1080p sets.”
Rob,
What on Earth are you talking about here? You’re making an impossible assertion.
Any time you like, put an HD-A2 on a Panasonic Viera Plasma beside a Pioneer Elite Blu-ray player and you tell me which one looks better.
Also, you’re completely incorrect that “most 1080p sets” have superior de-interlacing technology. There’s a reason why videophiles like Gary Merson spend so much time performing tests on 1080p sets for 3:2 cadence and de-interlacing and you seem to just smack him right in the mouth with this false information. Not only do over 50% of 1080p sets fail de-interlacing tests, but over 80% of them fail 3:2 cadence detection.
I’m sorry but a 1080p source on a 1080p television does NOT look better than the 1080i source, which is subject to far more points of failure when it comes to getting all 2,073,600 pixels getting to where they’re supposed to be at the right time.
It’s offensive to people who seek the truth on technologies to have to see such misinformation being posted by someone who is supposed to be regarded as a good source of information on technical matters. Have you ever thought about actually testing equipment with an HQV benchmark test disc?

[daisuke149]

Originally Posted by bdrex28

it is wrong, they were specifically upset with HD DVD and say they are 100% behind blu-ray in the article he quoted.

Disney needs to brand their own blu-ray player.

dude that is a freaking great idea. disney branded princess blu-ray player or pirates etc for the kids. if kids ask for it parents shall get it. see it all the damn time here.

we got the new americal girl boutique and bistro at my mall and holy shit that place is rakin in the money. fully booked on every weekend and holiday for the next 4 months. place is fukin expensive. like 20 bucks to give your doll a shampoo.. u paid like 60 for the doll. foods like 20 bucks for the kids.. and oh yeah u can pay to have food made for your dolls. <-- examples like that show that such a idea would be possible. especially if maybe sony or the bda or disney would subsidize the player to around 300 or possibly less just for the kids. i mean no adult would put a pink blu-ray player in his awesome theater room even if it was 250 compared to a 400 regular.

[DJeffries]

Originally Posted by Matt X

that last bit's gotta be wrong - @ the Blu-ray event last week, Disney appeared to be one of BR's biggest backers.

In the article linked to in Enderle's piece Disney totally endorses Blu-ray. Just More Enderle FUD.

[JAGUAR1977]

Isn't it amazing how these so called experts are so misguided much of the time.

[krispydude]

wow, thats one of the dumbest corrolations i've ever heard. disney is mad at HD DVD and microsoft for dragging out the war so this is bad for blu-ray because disney is upset over that?

uh nice stretch there rob. what a tool.

[androvsky]

Enderle isn't saying that Disney is upset at Blu-ray, he's saying that Disney is upset. He's saying that Disney's attack on HD-DVD was a bit overboard, and is wondering why Disney is lashing out so vehemently. He's then speculating the reason is that Blu-ray isn't doing well, so Disney is feeling desperate.

In other words, if Blu-ray was doing well, Disney should be sitting back and relaxing, enjoying a nice warm hot cocoa instead of yelling at HD-DVD.

*sigh*

But given his stupid comment on 1080i players looking better on 1080p sets, I can see why everybody would assume he was completely off-base on the Disney thing.

[oldmike]

Originally Posted by androvsky

Enderle isn't saying that Disney is upset at Blu-ray, he's saying that Disney is upset. He's saying that Disney's attack on HD-DVD was a bit overboard, and is wondering why Disney is lashing out so vehemently. He's then speculating the reason is that Blu-ray isn't doing well, so Disney is feeling desperate.

In other words, if Blu-ray was doing well, Disney should be sitting back and relaxing, enjoying a nice warm hot cocoa instead of yelling at HD-DVD.

*sigh*

But given his stupid comment on 1080i players looking better on 1080p sets, I can see why everybody would assume he was completely off-base on the Disney thing.

ok mister HD-DVD ever think that they know what happens if this war keep going on
Do YOU have any idea at alll. No you just keep your pro HD-DVD party line
They know if the war keeps on it will be the end of disk based movie sales
M$ will force us to only have 720p crapless audio down loads
THATS why there mad and any fan of movies will be or is mad.

[yakman]

Originally Posted by androvsky

But given his stupid comment on 1080i players looking better on 1080p sets, I can see why everybody would assume he was completely off-base on the Disney thing.

I read that as him saying the 1080p duds' de-interlace is worse than most 1080p sets built-in de-interlacing(remember all broadcast HD is either 720p or 1080i and 1080p sets de-interlace the 1080i to 1080p). He is saying, if you have a 1080p set skip the dud high end units that do 1080p as your 1080p TV likely does the de-interlace better with the 1080i output from the cheap 1080i dud units.

[darinp2]

Originally Posted by yakman

I read that as him saying the 1080p duds' de-interlace is worse than most 1080p sets built-in de-interlacing(remember all broadcast HD is either 720p or 1080i and 1080p sets de-interlace the 1080i to 1080p). He is saying, if you have a 1080p set skip the dud high end units that do 1080p as your 1080p TV likely does the de-interlace better with the 1080i output from the cheap 1080i dud units.

He's probably thinking about how the A20 did 1080p incorrectly (converted to 1080i then back to 1080p even with 1080p original). Or maybe he is thinking about 1080i source material, which is a small percentage of the content on either format. I don't get the feeling he really has much grasp of the subject matter.

--Darin

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by androvsky

Enderle isn't saying that Disney is upset at Blu-ray, he's saying that Disney is upset. He's saying that Disney's attack on HD-DVD was a bit overboard, and is wondering why Disney is lashing out so vehemently. He's then speculating the reason is that Blu-ray isn't doing well, so Disney is feeling desperate.

In other words, if Blu-ray was doing well, Disney should be sitting back and relaxing, enjoying a nice warm hot cocoa instead of yelling at HD-DVD.

*sigh*

But given his stupid comment on 1080i players looking better on 1080p sets, I can see why everybody would assume he was completely off-base on the Disney thing.

Do you agree with that assessment?

If Blu-ray isn't doing well, then HD DVD is doing much worse. And for the studios the slowness of HDM adoption and anything that would continue to keep things subdued is an issue to get angry at.

Seems people need to be reminded each time that Rob Enderle is PAID to write these articles. So, his opinion could be way off what he writes.

Gary

[bdrex28]

Doby

I'm impressed, you put together a well articulated response and it garnered a follow up.

Nicely done. Please post a response, if he gives one.