HD DVD Advantages?

[sparksj]

GO READ THE REVIEWS ALL OVER THE INTERNET.

You might want to try something other than a Blu Ray fan site when you read your reviews, their more honest that way.

THAT'S FUNNY, all the reviews say other wise, Blu ray PQ and AQ has been superior to HDDVD by all review sites, except maybe those bleading red(MS). Is call google.

I have looked at many reviews and have not seen this??? Other than by Fanboys who have only heard Blu Ray.

2 million wow, what cave have you been hiding? It's 5.46 million right now.
I meant only in the US.


Because someone leaves their network unsecured and you are able to get into by just hitting the connect button, does not mean you hack it or cracked it.

Some were secure, but not very


On a side note, you have taken some attack very well and i would like to take back some of my coments, i will delete them from the previous post.[/QUOTE]

It's easy to take attack well, when you know your right...

In reality, I'm not out to try to be right or wrong. As an anaylst I can see the pros and cons of each system. I get annoyed by those (Xbox rules & PS3 rules) people that can't see past their own enthusiasm for a given format. Like it or not, HD DVD has some pretty good points, which is why is still hanging on by the skin of its teeth. Think about the fact that a format has 1/7 the number of players out there, yet is only trailing in disc sales by 1/2. No matter how you slice it, it's impressive. And, it shows that they are doing something right. (and this was before the Paramount deal, so don't jump on that band wagon). And no matter how you much you want to believe that all the specs are such a huge deal, they are not. My HD DVD player still looks way better than DVDs. Even if it did look slightly worse than BR (which it doesn't) people still don't care enough to spend $400 for 1080p vs. 98$ or $199 for 1080i, which if you read my previous link, is not any different if you have an LCD TV because it converts it back to 1080p anyway.

[sparksj]

As I stated earlier, I have an Xbox and it's true that the Xbox is loud... But at least when I play Ace Combat I feel like I'm in a real plane.

Seriously though, one advantage to the Xbox is that most developers who create games in both formats develope for the Xbox first and then convert over to PS3. This means, for now anyway, the games look and act better on the Xbox. However, they may make up for it with games like Heavenly Sword and the other 4 PS3 exclusive games . But, I have seen many side by side comparisons and the Xbox has better color and frame rates. That makes the noise a bit more barable.

[sparksj]

It's great to have enthusiasm for the system you bought in to. I'm sure you did a lot of research and found the system that was right for you, but all of you need to quit acting so superior, as if you’re so smart and all the HD DVD people are so dumb for choosing that format. It's coffee vs. Tea people. It's just video entertainment. It's not like we're arguing over which artificial heart is better.

No matter which format wins, you will all get great HD video with great sound (For those of you that need it so bad, once the 51GB HD DVD discs come out, they will have lossless too).

If BR wins, I realize their will be some satisfaction that you will all feel for being right, and that's part of the fun. That's why we cheer for football teams of which we have no affiliation with. We like to be on the winning team. Just remember, as long as one of them wins, we all win. Then we can get back to watching any movie we want in HD. And, when this is all over, we can finally get back to arguing about whether Xbox 360 of PS3 is better

[sj001]

Originally Posted by sparksj

It's great to have enthusiasm for the system you bought in to. I'm sure you did a lot of research and found the system that was right for you, but all of you need to quit acting so superior, as if you’re so smart and all the HD DVD people are so dumb for choosing that format. It's coffee vs. Tea people. It's just video entertainment. It's not like we're arguing over which artificial heart is better.

Actually I researched both formats pretty heavily before I invested in the PS3, and I don't need to ACT like BLu-ray is superior, it IS superior.

No matter which format wins, you will all get great HD video with great sound (For those of you that need it so bad, once the 51GB HD DVD discs come out, they will have lossless too).

Ummm, yeah, when are these coming out again???

If BR wins, I realize their will be some satisfaction that you will all feel for being right, and that's part of the fun. That's why we cheer for football teams of which we have no affiliation with. We like to be on the winning team. Just remember, as long as one of them wins, we all win. Then we can get back to watching any movie we want in HD. And, when this is all over, we can finally get back to arguing about whether Xbox 360 of PS3 is better

Oh, why no response to these questions, hmmm?

Originally Posted by sparksj
Not sure I agree with you on the Ipod issue, yes it was about $30 more than other players, but they didn't have the cool one-touch wheel (safer while driving). Also most of them had 6 or 8 GB capacity when I was looking. The Ipod had 30GB and a bigger screen. (I guess now you'll touch on the greater capacity of the BR). But the Ipod had 5 times the capacity, not just 50% more. It also had brand recognition. Much higher end and just about anything else out there. Sony and Toshiba are about equal.

You still have a very good point though, and you may be right. I just don't see the cool factor of Sony BR.... Now PS3 has that cool factor hence the 2 million units sold. See the difference?

sj001
Sony and Toshiba have brand recognition, Toshiba gets an "F" from the Better Business Bureau, this is something most J6Ps DO know about.

Originally Posted by sparksj
It made a big impact. Half of all HD DVD players out there are the xbox addon???

sj001
Really? All I hear are complaints about it's quality... and, 1/2 of all HD-DVD players are the add-on? Please provide a link. I thought the standalones were the strength of HD-DVD.

Also, can I get recordable HD-DVDs, or an HD-DVD camcorder? I can't last I checked.

Fact of the matter is that Toshiba has cut their own feet off with these price drops, they will NOT being able to compete by themselves against EVERY OTHER CE MANUFACTURER out there. Sorry. Even Onkyo was supposed to release a high-end HD-DVD player, but I have heard nothing of it in months.

Originally Posted by sparksj
Actually, even since my friend and I drove up and down my block hacking in to peoples wrieless networks, I have not trusted wireless. When we built our house, I wired it.

Not sure how that made your argument stronger, but I'll admit I don't know how confortable the average person is with hooking up to a router.

sj001
Any luck hacking a WPS2 encrypted wireless network?



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Originally Posted by sj001
This is commonly used rhetoric that Ken Graffeo of Universal Studios, the co-chairman of the HD-DVD PG has said, "we aren't worried about the PS3, because gamers don't buy movies". Also, HD-DVD PG's insistence in NOT counting PS3's towards total sales of players.

sparksj

Well, Ken is stupid...
Hey man, he's YOUR GROUP's co-CHAIRMAN...

Every PS3 owner I know, bought it for the games and then said... Hey, I might as well get a few movies while I'm at it.

But then that really doesn't help the BR argument. If you count all of the sales, then BR has a 7 to 1 hardware advantage but only a 2 to 1 disc sales advantage. I think most figures I've heard is that only half of the PS3 owners watch movies... Who knows what they really do


Have fun!

[Papi4baby]

Originally Posted by sparksj

You might want to try something other than a Blu Ray fan site when you read your reviews, their more honest that way.

It's easy to take attack well, when you know your right...

LOL your kidding right!

And about the reviews the same can be said for you. Well im done in this thread since you obviously wont back down, well you win enjoy HDDVD and when you have to purchase a Blu ray player because HDDVD died no one will care so keep it to yourself since you are right

[sparksj]

Originally Posted by Papi4baby

It's easy to take attack well, when you know your right...

LOL your kidding right!

And about the reviews the same can be said for you. Well im done in this thread since you obviously wont back down, well you win enjoy HDDVD and when you have to purchase a Blu ray player because HDDVD died no one will care so keep it to yourself since you are right

If BR Wins, I will be extatic... Because that will mean that there is now only one format and the ware will be over. Who could ask for more. Also, by then the BR players will all be version 2.0 so I will not have to give up the functions I'm used to on my HD DVD player. And since the price will have dropped to $200, I'll be even happier.

BUT, if HD DVD wins, what will happen to BR? Will developers still continue to make games for the PS3 since it would be the only thing that still uses BR discs??? Who knows.....

My predicition is that BR currently has a 85% chance of winning. We'll wait and see. I got the HD DVD mainly to quench my HD thirst until BR was more stable and settled. I only own 5 movies, so I don't have that much to lose. They way I see it, I bought 3 DVD players within 2 years of them coming out (paying about $180 for two of them), so I don't mind having to buy a new HD player in the next year or so.

You have to admit there is one great thing about the HD war. If it was Just HD DVD or Just Sony, prices would still be around $500 per player.... Oh wait, they still are for BR... DOH!


"Always look at the bright side of life... do do.. do do.. do do do do do do"
"Monty Python"

[sj001]

Originally Posted by sparksj

If BR Wins, I will be extatic... Because that will mean that there is now only one format and the ware will be over. Who could ask for more. Also, by then the BR players will all be version 2.0 so I will not have to give up the functions I'm used to on my HD DVD player. And since the price will have dropped to $200, I'll be even happier.

BUT, if HD DVD wins, what will happen to BR? Will developers still continue to make games for the PS3 since it would be the only thing that still uses BR discs??? Who knows.....

My predicition is that BR currently has a 85% chance of winning. We'll wait and see. I got the HD DVD mainly to quench my HD thirst until BR was more stable and settled. I only own 5 movies, so I don't have that much to lose. They way I see it, I bought 3 DVD players within 2 years of them coming out (paying about $180 for two of them), so I don't mind having to buy a new HD player in the next year or so.

You have to admit there is one great thing about the HD war. If it was Just HD DVD or Just Sony, prices would still be around $500 per player.... Oh wait, they still are for BR... DOH!


"Always look at the bright side of life... do do.. do do.. do do do do do do"
"Monty Python"

That is the bright thing, prices drop, but also tons and tons of people sit on the fence waiting for the viable format, and if too much time passes, we have a niche market, lovely.

[sparksj]

When it come to spending over $200 on something, I think a lot of people wait for an event like Christmas to do it. This holiday season will be huge in determining how long the "war" goes on. If HD DVD sells more units, the war will drag on longer. If BR makes a good showing it could be over sooner. My predicition is that by middle of 08, BR prices will drop again to Sub $200 levels and then it will be over for HD DVD. It's a timed race. BR has to make a showing sooner than later.

My personal experience is that the average person will not buy the PS3 as a BR only player. I think that's one mistake Sony is making. A game system as a player just doesn't have mass market appeal. Sure it may sell a 100,000 or so, but the SA players is where they need to make the sale.

Come on Sony... Make the right choice for everyone now. Don't blow it by waiting too long.