81:19 Nielsen/VideoScan Weekly Sales Numbers

[Sonny]

You "guys" crack me up

[Flux88MPH]

Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

On a side note, your wife must have one hell of a commute. Austin to LA everyday...

Well you see Max; there was this little invention of the airplane in which you are enabled to fly from city to city. These “airplanes” group at facilities called airports that enable the boarding and logistics that make it all possible to travel almost anywhere in a relatively short amount of time. Welcome to the 21st century my friend.

[DefTechPioElite]

Originally Posted by The Shrike

and sent to us on the wings of a Phoenix!

Wow that's HILARIOUS! I'm sorry to just jump in like this but that's 24 karat comedy DERRRRRRRP!

[Flux88MPH]

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

And again Flux, you are talking about the TV ratings, and not the DVD ratings, which are 2 entirely seperate divisions, and 2 entriely different methodologies

And the point is that this is the same company that does the DVD, BD, & HD ratings. They're record speaks for itself and is completely relevant. Media is media.

[Dogdvr]

Originally Posted by Flux88MPH

Well you see Max; there was this little invention of the airplane in which you are enabled to fly from city to city. These “airplanes” group at facilities called airports that enable the boarding and logistics that make it all possible to travel almost anywhere in a relatively short amount of time. Welcome to the 21st century my friend.

But it still makes for one hell of a commute!
about a thousand miles

[Flux88MPH]

Originally Posted by DefTechPioElite

Wow that's HILARIOUS! I'm sorry to just jump in like this but that's 24 karat comedy DERRRRRRRP!

I know, right? Maybe Shrike should be a writer...oh wait.

[The Shrike]

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

And again Flux, you are talking about the TV ratings, and not the DVD ratings, which are 2 entirely seperate divisions, and 2 entriely different methodologies

BLASPHEMER! How can you not see the relevence! It has been writ, thus it is true!

Originally Posted by Flux88MPH

Well you see Max; there was this little invention of the airplane in which you are enabled to fly from city to city. These “airplanes” group at facilities called airports that enable the boarding and logistics that make it all possible to travel almost anywhere in a relatively short amount of time. Welcome to the 21st century my friend.

Witness the astounding wit of the King of Intelligence And All He Thinks About! He managed to take the infidel Max's cruel statement, and turn the tables on the fool! Surely, the Anti-Poster Max, knows what an airport and airplanes; therefore explaining the concept to him in a way that is clearly beneath his intelligence level, he has SAVAGED The Weak One! By talking to him as though he is stupid, He has shown Max to BE stupid! I BOW DOWN BEFORE YOUR WEAPONS OF SARCASM!

[Maximus]

Originally Posted by Flux88MPH

Well you see Max; there was this little invention of the airplane in which you are enabled to fly from city to city. These “airplanes” group at facilities called airports that enable the boarding and logistics that make it all possible to travel almost anywhere in a relatively short amount of time. Welcome to the 21st century my friend.

Everyday! I had to take a 40min train to the City when I worked there in the summer and that pissed me right off. Having to check in and out of flights everyday is, well, irritating to say the least.

[Flux88MPH]

Originally Posted by Dogdvr

But it still makes for one hell of a commute!
about a thousand miles

Not everyone that works in the industry lives in LA or even California for that matter.

[Dogdvr]

Originally Posted by Flux88MPH

Not everyone that works in the industry lives in LA or even California for that matter.

Your right about that! My son works at a movie theatre so he is "in the industry"

[GTsmokeya]

This post is starting to sound EPIC.

GTsmokeya

[The Shrike]

Originally Posted by Flux88MPH

And the point is that this is the same company that does the DVD, BD, & HD ratings. They're record speaks for itself and is completely relevant. Media is media.

He wields Occams Razor: The more you can distill complex issues into simple catchphrases, the truer it is! Truly, not one of you morons can continue the fruitless debate with Flux88MPH! Flux88MPH: Scientist. Mathematician. Industry Expert.

Originally Posted by Flux88MPH

Not everyone that works in the industry lives in LA or even California for that matter.

TRUTH! He invented the Flux Capacitor! Doubt him, not!

Originally Posted by Flux88MPH

I know, right? Maybe Shrike should be a writer...oh wait.

First I am decreed 14 years old; now I... Wait. I don't understand this post at all.

[ikbradley]

I have to interject and state Flux88MPH only raised the point that the Nielson ratings should be looked at with a critical eye.

There is nothing particularly offensive to this statement, and he is right. Every firm has a client with a certain bias. The methodoligies used can be manipulated to present tailored "unbiased results".

If information is available on how Nielson goes about measuring the sale of HD media, then it would certainly be fairly transparent as to what is missing.

However, keep it up with the dripping sarcasm. This shit is indeed, gold!

[Flux88MPH]

Originally Posted by Dogdvr

Your right about that! My son works at a movie theatre so he is "in the industry"

So your son rips tickets and sweeps up the popcorn that falls on the floor. I would have to say that is very different than having a show. I know, I know…it’s CLOSE though huh.

[The Shrike]

Originally Posted by Flux88MPH

So your son rips tickets and sweeps up the popcorn that falls on the floor. I would have to say that is very different than having a show. I know, I know…it’s CLOSE though huh.

Yes! Attack the poster's son! Flux88MPH is truly a wrathful God, with no mercy! How dare you compare your ugly brood to the Woman Angel With A Show!

[Dogdvr]

Originally Posted by Flux88MPH

So your son rips tickets and sweeps up the popcorn that falls on the floor. I would have to say that is very different than having a show. I know, I know…it’s CLOSE though huh.

Yeah, but sometimes, he likes "to get back at the man" and he will cut the tickets. I know for a fact that he sometimes leaves popcorn on the floor!

[Sonny]

PM each other so you can be closer

[Flux88MPH]

Originally Posted by ikbradley

I have to interject and state Flux88MPH only raised the point that the Nielson ratings should be looked at with a critical eye.

There is nothing particularly offensive to this statement, and he is right. Every firm has a client with a certain bias. The methodoligies used can be manipulated to present tailored "unbiased results".

If information is available on how Nielson goes about measuring the sale of HD media, then it would certainly be fairly transparent as to what is missing.

However, keep it up with the dripping sarcasm. This shit is indeed, gold!

Thanks for the support ikbradley. However I too am enjoying the entertainment value that is included in this thread.

Shrike, please help me become the next L. Ron.

[ikbradley]

Originally Posted by The Shrike

Yes! Attack the poster's son! Flux88MPH is truly a wrathful God, with no mercy! How dare you compare your ugly brood to the Woman Angel With A Show!

I love you Your level of sarcasm has eclipsed anything I have encountered. Tears are welling up in my eyes as I write this salute to my muse, my raison d'être, my inspiration!

[RUR]

See, here's the problem:

You began by asserting that Nielsen wasn't representative because it's not comprehensive enough and excludes "a lot of different demographics".

Originally Posted by Flux88MPH

The fact is, Nielsen is relatively a small survey. It is not a comprehensive accurate portrayal of the consumer purchasing habits as a whole in the US. Their ratings only focus on specific categories and groups and leaves out a lot of different demographics.

When that argument is disputed, you claim Nielsen is inaccurate because "the #1 retailer in the country" is excluded:

Originally Posted by Flux88MPH

When the #1 retailer in the country Wal-Mart (which whom I do not support) and the major online retailers are not included in the data that Nielsen provides, I consider this far from comprehensive and conclusive. It is not accurate and not an “end all be all” number to ever count on…only a piece of the pie.

When the fact that Walmart is a distant third in terms of HD media sales is pointed out, you claim inside information as to the workings of Nielsen's methodologies:

Originally Posted by Flux88MPH

I used to be involved in marketing and merchandising for Suncoast, Musicland, Sam Goody, FYE/Camelot, and CD Warehouse stores. Only specific markets were plugged in to the Nielsen database leaving many markets to not be included. Just like any poll or survey of information, the data collected is only specific to it's origin and not associated with a comprehensive hard number.

and when Max produces better credentials than you as regards Nielsen's methodology, you morph to an argument that Nielsen is biased and not objective:

Originally Posted by Flux88MPH

I'm not anti-Nielsen just stating that they monopolize this area of survey. Stating that they are unbiased and completely objective is a stretch since they are all in all still a business that gets paid by the very same companies you say they are “unbiased” to.

Not to be deterred by contrary claims that Nielsen is not biased, you produce a complete non sequitur regarding Nielsen's TV methodology:

Originally Posted by Flux88MPH

This would be to say that the Blackstone Group, Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co, and the Carlyle Group have no agendas or bias....

Finally (so far!) when the inappropriate comparison is pointed out, you make sweeping generalizations:

Originally Posted by Flux88MPH

And the point is that this is the same company that does the DVD, BD, & HD ratings. They're record speaks for itself and is completely relevant. Media is media.

Frankly, your credibility is suffering more than a bit.