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radagast · 11-14-2007, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 6ryph3n

I was actually pretty bored with the books... not because of the story, just the writing. Looking forward to the movie though.

They have changed all the "church" references to "the magisterium" to make it less offensive. From what I've read though, the story is anti-extremist religion, not anti-religion like some people claim.

It is anti-Christian, especially the kind of Christianity that says there are definite rights and wrongs. Read more about the author and you will realize that.

Barnum · 11-14-2007, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by radagast

It is anti-Christian, especially the kind of Christianity that says there are definite rights and wrongs. Read more about the author and you will realize that.

I could not agree with you more. I am sick and tired of all the religion bashing going on right now. It seems like today anything goes and that is ok and religion is a waste of time. I frankly think that world could use some religion if not to teach right and wrong. I would rather be dead right then burning someplace by being wrong.

I don't think that anti religion should be pushed onto our children. Hollywood seems to not care about any sort of value structure anymore.

I don't care if it is the best movie ever made I will not support the theme plain and simple.

Rheologuy · 11-14-2007, 01:52 PM

Completely agree. This book (and by extension, the movie) is intended as an attack on Christianity, or more broadly, the God of the Bible, and what's worse, it's aimed at children. It's a Trojan Horse whose purpose is to subvert our children and bias them against God. This is tolerance?

JBlacklow · 11-14-2007, 02:02 PM

Hey, it wasn't atheists that started the Crusades.

joeorc · 11-14-2007, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JBlacklow

Hey, it wasn't atheists that started the Crusades.

no it was just HUMANITY itself based on IDEA's their idea is right your's is wrong...man drives war's for what ever reason just to pick up a sword,club,hammer to bonk something or someone over the head...HUMANITY is a violent bunch...

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phelps · 11-14-2007, 03:23 PM

I was going to take my seven year old daughter to see this when my wife told me about the anti-God undertones of this movie.

Here is a website that I found

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/compass.asp

For all I care it can come out on Laser disc. I won't be watching or buying. More power to those that want to. I won't condem ya.

This guy might be a good writer, but I do not believe he can compare to Lewis and Tolkein (These guys were friends and Tolkein led lewis to Christ. I learned this in a C.S. Lewis documentary I watched)

Dickn52 · 11-14-2007, 06:56 PM

Gee, you guys are deep. You actually watch movies for the "content" instead of the wonder of the art of the making of the product? I have had an epiphany here and may never "watch" a movie again. Bet you like to read the funny words that go on the bottom of the screen too don't ya? Nothing like reading a movie to work the eyeball muscles.

supersix4 · 11-14-2007, 06:58 PM

seems to me everyones trying to do what lord of the rings did .. make a movie with a few sequels and cash in this movie, narnia or w/e .... just seems like after lotr's all these movies seem alike

Sheperd_Aiki · 11-14-2007, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JBlacklow

Hey, it wasn't atheists that started the Crusades.

To be historically fair, they did start the purge of the Soviet Union, which killed millions more people.

Joe Cain · 11-14-2007, 03:23 PM

Humans don't need a reason to kill each other---just an excuse.

Which is why I'm glad my parents are emigrants from Tralfamadore.

glenn22 · 11-14-2007, 03:44 PM

This movie looks like pure anti-christian crap.... I won't be seeing it.

dobyblue · 11-14-2007, 02:02 PM

I always thought the trailers looked good, but the newer longer one has me really excited for this now.

Vantage Point is still the #1 movie I'm most looking forward to right now though.

Seretur · 11-14-2007, 02:28 PM

The His Dark Materials series is some of the most intellectually challenging reading I've ever encountered, featuring some of the most profound thoughts on the relationship between humanity and the universe. It does feature a critique of the ways in which this relationship has been perverted by organized power structures, including religion, but its scope and achievements are larger than that.

I'm sorry if it offends anyone's creed, but open-minded readers and viewers, regardless of their denomination, will find more food for thought here than in any dozen random critical favorites.

And it's a brilliant adventure tale, to boot. The one title I'm looking forward to the most this holiday season.

Barnum · 11-14-2007, 02:59 PM

What a coincidence that something like this comes during the Christmas season. Call it what you will this is nothing more than an attack on religion plain and simple. What a shame that much effort is put into something that has such a negative concept. The time frame of the release is just more proof to me that Hollywood is anti God which is a shame.

Seretur · 11-14-2007, 03:01 PM

Let's see what the movie actually is like before we hurl such harsh words on it, shall we?

I consider myself Christian, and, again, I very much enjoyed Pullman's work. I would like the others to have the same freedom to make their own minds up.

Oh, and welcome to the forum.

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11-14-2007, 01:52 PM	#3
Rheologuy Active Member Member since:Apr 2007	Completely agree. This book (and by extension, the movie) is intended as an attack on Christianity, or more broadly, the God of the Bible, and what's worse, it's aimed at children. It's a Trojan Horse whose purpose is to subvert our children and bias them against God. This is tolerance?

11-14-2007, 02:02 PM	#4
JBlacklow Senior Member Member since:Dec 2006	Hey, it wasn't atheists that started the Crusades.

11-14-2007, 03:23 PM	#6
phelps Active Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Louisville, KY	I was going to take my seven year old daughter to see this when my wife told me about the anti-God undertones of this movie. Here is a website that I found http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/compass.asp For all I care it can come out on Laser disc. I won't be watching or buying. More power to those that want to. I won't condem ya. This guy might be a good writer, but I do not believe he can compare to Lewis and Tolkein (These guys were friends and Tolkein led lewis to Christ. I learned this in a C.S. Lewis documentary I watched)

11-14-2007, 06:56 PM	#7
Dickn52 Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Ocala Florida	Gee, you guys are deep. You actually watch movies for the "content" instead of the wonder of the art of the making of the product? I have had an epiphany here and may never "watch" a movie again. Bet you like to read the funny words that go on the bottom of the screen too don't ya? Nothing like reading a movie to work the eyeball muscles.

11-14-2007, 06:58 PM	#8
supersix4 Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Mar 2007 Blu-ray collection:572 Blu-ray reviews: 53 Trading Score:3	seems to me everyones trying to do what lord of the rings did .. make a movie with a few sequels and cash in this movie, narnia or w/e .... just seems like after lotr's all these movies seem alike

11-14-2007, 03:23 PM	#10
Joe Cain Power Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:The Tragic City Blu-ray collection:79	Humans don't need a reason to kill each other---just an excuse. Which is why I'm glad my parents are emigrants from Tralfamadore.

11-14-2007, 03:44 PM	#11
glenn22 Power Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Vancouver, Canada	This movie looks like pure anti-christian crap.... I won't be seeing it.

11-14-2007, 02:02 PM	#12
dobyblue Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Jul 2006 Location:Ontario, Canada Home Theater Gallery:71 4K collection:55 Blu-ray collection:655 Blu-ray reviews: 15	I always thought the trailers looked good, but the newer longer one has me really excited for this now. Vantage Point is still the #1 movie I'm most looking forward to right now though.

11-14-2007, 02:28 PM	#13
Seretur Special Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:An Island in the Adriatic Blu-ray collection:521 Blu-ray reviews:5 Trading Score:2	The His Dark Materials series is some of the most intellectually challenging reading I've ever encountered, featuring some of the most profound thoughts on the relationship between humanity and the universe. It does feature a critique of the ways in which this relationship has been perverted by organized power structures, including religion, but its scope and achievements are larger than that. I'm sorry if it offends anyone's creed, but open-minded readers and viewers, regardless of their denomination, will find more food for thought here than in any dozen random critical favorites. And it's a brilliant adventure tale, to boot. The one title I'm looking forward to the most this holiday season.

11-14-2007, 02:59 PM	#14
Barnum Senior Member Member since:Nov 2007 Trading Score:3	What a coincidence that something like this comes during the Christmas season. Call it what you will this is nothing more than an attack on religion plain and simple. What a shame that much effort is put into something that has such a negative concept. The time frame of the release is just more proof to me that Hollywood is anti God which is a shame.

11-14-2007, 03:01 PM	#15
Seretur Special Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:An Island in the Adriatic Blu-ray collection:521 Blu-ray reviews:5 Trading Score:2	Let's see what the movie actually is like before we hurl such harsh words on it, shall we? I consider myself Christian, and, again, I very much enjoyed Pullman's work. I would like the others to have the same freedom to make their own minds up. Oh, and welcome to the forum.

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