Predator (1987) (Ultimate Hunter Edition)

[DaleDark]

"You go in the cage....cage goes in the water.....BD's in the water.....our UHE BD........Farwell and ado to you fair Spanish ladies/Farewell and ado, you ladies of Spain....."

[PrivatePixel]

Originally Posted by persuazion

They also said Gladiator looked good and most viewers would be happy with it......

There's a weakness in your argument: Adam Tyner wrote the review for Predator:UE, while Chris Neilson handled Gladiator's. Also, if you read Neilson's review, he did include a few disclaimers, acknowledging that the Sapphire release of Galdiator suffered from "noticeable edge-enhancement, DNR and other digital manipulation of the image designed to minimize blemishes".

[Cortiz]

While I understand the purists, as I recalled movies back in the 80's were not shot in HD and movie theaters were not in HD. So what's the purpose of Blu-Ray if you want to see a movie exactly as it was show in theaters back in the 80's? If I want Predator to look exactly as it did in the 80's I might as well keep my 15 years old VHS tape....it looks exactly as it did in the 80's.

[RipleyLV426]

Originally Posted by DaleDark

"You go in the cage....cage goes in the water.....BD's in the water.....our UHE BD........Farwell and ado to you fair Spanish ladies/Farewell and ado, you ladies of Spain....."

Now, you're making me yearn even more for Jaws on BD....I wait patiently for the day it is released (but it is sooo hard to wait for such a classic)

[Douglas R]

Originally Posted by Post Prod

any modern HD display should have their sharpness set to zero on any input receiving an HD signal.

Anything above 0 is adding noise to the picture.

I'm sorry but this seems absurd to me because if I set my sharpness on 0 the picture (Pioneer plasma) becomes very soft. At maximum it is extremely sharp and doesn't add any noise.

[DNinja]

Originally Posted by Cortiz

While I understand the purists, as I recalled movies back in the 80's were not shot in HD and movie theaters were not in HD. So what's the purpose of Blu-Ray if you want to see a movie exactly as it was show in theaters back in the 80's? If I want Predator to look exactly as it did in the 80's I might as well keep my 15 years old VHS tape....it looks exactly as it did in the 80's.

Movies in the 80s were shot on film, which easily surpasses the resolution of Blu-Ray. Movies on VHS never looked anything like what you could watch in the theater.

[DNinja]

Originally Posted by Douglas R

I'm sorry but this seems absurd to me because if I set my sharpness on 0 the picture (Pioneer plasma) becomes very soft. At maximum it is extremely sharp and doesn't add any noise.

It depends on your TV. I have mine set to zero and everything looks fine. I've helped a few friends calibrate their sets and had to set it higher.

[supercutz]

Originally Posted by bentvalve

Not really a direct Predator question but this question popped in my mind last night.......I wonder if Arnold Schwarzenegger will ever get back into making movies (acting) again? He is a pretty young looking 63 year old , I am not sure when his CA governor job will be over, I think he is in is second term, no?

Arnold is in the upcoming movie (pardon me, "film". My bad.) The Expendables this summer.

[retablo]

Originally Posted by persuazion

How does anybody remember what Predator looked like in the theaters? I mean seriously....unless you were all film students and taking notes or your Rain Man I really doubt anybody could tell you how it looked when they saw it 20 + years ago.

It plays in midnight movie houses and retro cinemas in L.A. 20 years ago or not, it's still a print struck form the negative, and the same as what played 20 years ago.

More combative questions?

[retablo]

Originally Posted by Cortiz

While I understand the purists, as I recalled movies back in the 80's were not shot in HD and movie theaters were not in HD. So what's the purpose of Blu-Ray if you want to see a movie exactly as it was show in theaters back in the 80's? If I want Predator to look exactly as it did in the 80's I might as well keep my 15 years old VHS tape....it looks exactly as it did in the 80's.

: rotfl:

i LOVE how everyone who "thinks" HD is supposed to be clean and clear and pristine ignores films like "Miami Vice," which was 100% digital and full of noise. Done artistically and ON PURPOSE. HD doesn't mean video game. I wish people would take the time to LEARN the technologies instead of just posting inaccurate "facts" about it.

[bandit29]

Why don't you then educate and inform, instead of ridicule?

[SpotOn]

http://www.dvdactive.com/editorial/a...-worth-it.html

[retablo]

Originally Posted by bandit29

Why don't you then educate and inform, instead of ridicule?

Me? I've tried, but people just don't listen. So, next is ridicule, I guess?

[RipleyLV426]

Originally Posted by SpotOn

http://www.dvdactive.com/editorial/a...-worth-it.html

Thanks for the article! Good read and nice comparisons.

[Bill Hunt]

Originally Posted by Cliff

But I think the reason Bill puts this ahead of those other issues is because with pan and scan, colorization, or anamorphic is that none of those issues potentially threatened the correct preservation of these films. Pan and scan may have been a blight, but there was always usually a widescreen version available. I know of no alternate "theatrical presentation" of Patton available on disc. Ditto with colorization with usually had the original B&W available included or elsewhere. And anamorphic had nothing to do with the restoration or presentation of a film beyond how it was encoded and flagged on the disc.

I owe you a beer, Cliff. Yes, this my point exactly.

[markbr]

I don't understand how people can be rude!!! At the end of the day, all the members on here are moaning at each other about the new release of predator, some like it some don't. If someone enjoyed it then so be it there choice!!!!!

[mars396]

Originally Posted by markbr

I don't understand how people can be rude!!! At the end of the day, all the members on here are moaning at each other about the new release of predator, some like it some don't. If someone enjoyed it then so be it there choice!!!!!

The film purists are worried that the orginal, theatrical version of Predator (ie the original film) will be lost to the ravages of time.

But, aren't all these HD Masters saved somewhere ? I mean the pre-DNR master of the actual film ?

[28BlusLater]

Originally Posted by Cortiz

While I understand the purists, as I recalled movies back in the 80's were not shot in HD and movie theaters were not in HD. So what's the purpose of Blu-Ray if you want to see a movie exactly as it was show in theaters back in the 80's? If I want Predator to look exactly as it did in the 80's I might as well keep my 15 years old VHS tape....it looks exactly as it did in the 80's.

The purpose for me is the sound quality. I look for my older movies to sound better than they did, but still maintain a similar style that was used when it was shown. Just looking at some of my films I have on Blu-Ray like My Bloody Valentine (The original) sounds much better than it did before...I find the 2008 version of Predator to look fine. In fact, grain can sometimes add to the film and give it a more gritty atmosphere.

[TNT]

Originally Posted by markbr

I don't understand how people can be rude!!!

Welcome to Internet message boards!

[Dotpattern]

Originally Posted by Cortiz

While I understand the purists, as I recalled movies back in the 80's were not shot in HD and movie theaters were not in HD. So what's the purpose of Blu-Ray if you want to see a movie exactly as it was show in theaters back in the 80's? If I want Predator to look exactly as it did in the 80's I might as well keep my 15 years old VHS tape....it looks exactly as it did in the 80's.

Movies are not shown in HD in theaters now. So I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Movies shot on film (even the ones shot in the 80's) have more resolution than HD currently does.

Originally Posted by markbr

I don't understand how people can be rude!!! At the end of the day, all the members on here are moaning at each other about the new release of predator, some like it some don't. If someone enjoyed it then so be it there choice!!!!!

Except those of us that wanted the extras (as well as an as-close-to-accurate representation of the intended look of the film) don't have a choice.