The Movie Review and Discussion Thread

[SquidPuppet]

Originally Posted by lDlisturb3d

IYou cant say that Avatar Success is based off hype, ]

Why do sh!tty quality jeans sell for $ 125.00 and really well made ones sell for $30.00?

Why do people pay $thousands of dollars for shiney little rocks for their fingers when the supply fills wharehouses the size of the Rosebowl?

Why do people buy $10,000.00 watches to perform the same task as a $40.00watch?

Why do some perfumes and colognes sell for $300.00 an ounce.

Why does Red bull cost 5 times as much as a Pepsi?

Hellooooooooooooo???

The Hypsters are good at their job.

They even made you believe that Avatar was good.

[Q?]

Originally Posted by jhiggy23

haha I meant that's what the guy said, but thanks for answering yourself! This has been discussed ad nauseum on this site, but here goes: The Prestige is a "Hollywood" movie, The Illusionist is not. Both have great acting, directing, and cinematography, although they're great in different ways. The Prestige relies on its twist, which is def somewhat of a cop out. The Illusionist isn't trying to shock people with its twist, but merely trying to conclude the story. The Prestige is one of the best films ever at examining obsession. The Illusionist makes no attempt at trying to delve into complex issues. The Prestige is a sci-fi film masquerading as a magician film. The Illusionist is a love story masquerading as a magician film. In the end, the simpler tale (the Illusionist) prevails, because its simplicity is what makes it more successful. Had the Prestige stuck with its great examination of obsession and not delved into cliche, it would have been even better.

Isn't it the other way around?

I thought The Illusionist was way more "Hollywoody" and I thought it was a much poorer movie. It also actually had a crappy "twist" or was that not meant to be a twist?

[lDlisturb3d]

Originally Posted by Foggy

If thats true, then how come it sold so many Blu's, if it was awful, people wouldn't go "Oh, I really didn't like that film, but it's been advertised on TV at so I'll get it anyway" no one see's it like that, and I'm sure most people didn't just watch Avatar once in theatre's, they went 2 or 3 times, I'm sure they wouldn't go to watch a shitty film 3 times at theatres and buy it on blu-ray.

If this flunked in it's second week, then I could say, yeah you're right, Quality doesn't sell a movie, but this movie doesn't apply that logic!

You said it perfectly, its BASIC LOGIC!!!!

[JLant19]

Originally Posted by jhiggy23

I thought this was a solid 3 star (out of 4) film but not an Oscar nominee. How did you go your whole review and not mention Frank Langella's performance!

haha I knew someone would ask this. I loved his performance I just didn't mention it in my review bc Frank is great always. I just figured I would be stating the obvious. ha no but I should have mentioned him and that was my fault.

Im surprised you only give it 3. I figured you would like this a little more than that.

[tbizzle]

The Seventh Seal - 3.5/5

It was good, but I didn't enjoy it too much. Just not my type of film, but I learned that Max von Sydow was Swedish

[JLant19]

Originally Posted by surfdude12

I saw Frost/Nixon a while ago. Good movie. Just watched the 210 minute Nixon this past week, for the second time. If you're really into the watergate stuff, and willing to sit through 210 minutes, check it out. How much of the film is true/dramatized? I dont know, but its entertaining

Yea man I have in in my queue! thanks man though!

[SquidPuppet]

Originally Posted by lDlisturb3d

you just made a statement that had no backbone nor had any wisdom. If it was that easy everyone would do it brother.

I can honestly say that most of you say AVATAR is bad because you are dying to be DIFFERENT.

You would be wrong.

Everybody loved Toy Story 3. And I am right there with them.

Why? It was good.

[Marcus Wright]

Originally Posted by SquidPuppet

Why do sh!tty quality jeans sell for $ 125.00 and really well made ones sell for $30.00?

Why do people pay $thousands of dollars for shiney little rocks for their fingers when the supply fills wharehouses the size of the Rosebowl?

Why do people buy $10,000.00 watches to perform the same task as a $40.00watch?

Why do some perfumes and colognes sell for $300.00 an ounce.

Why does Red bull cost 5 times as much as a Pepsi?

Hellooooooooooooo???

The Hypsters are good at their job.

They even made you believe that Avatar was good.

This doesnt proof anythink about Avatar, just assumptions.

[JLant19]

Originally Posted by SquidPuppet

I was not bored.

I was too busy fending off the onslaught of unrealistic scenarios, actions and resolutions, and combating the barage of crap lines to be bored. It was a good workout.

jhiggy warned me of you coming after me! I am sorry but I have to say.... you are wrong! jk man I'm sorry you didn't like it. I thought it had very realistic scenarios. Idk about the scene when

[Show spoiler]the three guys go into town and Eldridge gets kidnapped.

I'll def you give you that scene.

[jhiggy23]

Originally Posted by lDlisturb3d

you just made a statement that had no backbone nor had any wisdom. If it was that easy everyone would do it brother.

I can honestly say that most of you say AVATAR is bad because you are dying to be DIFFERENT.

I think that statement was unduly harsh and unnecessary. Surfdude is absolutely correct--marketing has a lot to do with how successful a movie is, not its quality. Hype is why Avatar did so well, whether you want to admit it or not. All films have marketing and trailers, but not all films are proclaimed to be "gamechangers" and not all films are the first film from a director since the at the time most successful film of all-time, Titanic.

[SquidPuppet]

Originally Posted by Foggy

If thats true, then how come it sold so many Blu's, if it was awful, people wouldn't go "Oh, I really didn't like that film, but it's been advertised on TV at so I'll get it anyway" no one see's it like that, and I'm sure most people didn't just watch Avatar once in theatre's, they went 2 or 3 times, I'm sure they wouldn't go to watch a shitty film 3 times at theatres and buy it on blu-ray.

If this flunked in it's second week, then I could say, yeah you're right, Quality doesn't sell a movie, but this movie doesn't apply that logic!

Fogster. Billions of people DID like it. But billions of people eat dorritos. Doesnt mean Dorritos are a quality food, just means people like 'em.

[jhiggy23]

Originally Posted by lDlisturb3d

Well if you read my post entirely you would see i was trying to figure out the purpose in why you didnt like it(Maybe i missed something), but i can see now there isnt a real purpose you guys are just trying to make conversation.

There isn't a real purpose? Are you kidding? I like the film but squid pointed out numerous reasons why people don't like the film, all of which are valid.

[JLant19]

Originally Posted by jhiggy23

I liked the setting but thought it was a mediocre film. I think Zodiac is far better.

Yea I have to agree, not a bad film at all, but Zodiac imo is def the better of the two. Robin Williams id do a great job as well. He played a great sick twisted role also in One Hour Photo. He was just weird and creepy. That was a really good film also.

[jhiggy23]

Originally Posted by lDlisturb3d

Ok this was a real answer and i can respect that. You have high standards when it comes to movies. That's cool but, do you look that deeply into every movie, or just because avatar had all this hype you paid extra attention to find flaws???? You dont have to answer that one. Just something to think about.

In regards to the McDonald's thing, of course its bad for you, anything good is bad, but people still like it because its tasty and convenient and cheap, its hard to make that triangle. Usually one is lacking. You might not like Mcdonald's but you have to respect their way of business, get my point?

None of his reasons were "looking deeply" into a movie. They were all pretty obvious. It's not like he's searching for criticisms to an undeniable great film like The Godfather.

[Marcus Wright]

This argument will not result in anyone changing their mind. Sadly.
I will never change my mind that Avatar was a real masterpiece of filmmaking on every level (including good storyline above all), as will not my family, as well as millions of other people around the world.

[lDlisturb3d]

Originally Posted by SquidPuppet

Why do sh!tty quality jeans sell for $ 125.00 and really well made ones sell for $30.00?

Why do people pay $thousands of dollars for shiney little rocks for their fingers when the supply fills wharehouses the size of the Rosebowl?

Why do people buy $10,000.00 watches to perform the same task as a $40.00watch?

Why do some perfumes and colognes sell for $300.00 an ounce.

Why does Red bull cost 5 times as much as a Pepsi?

Hellooooooooooooo???

The Hypsters are good at their job.

They even made you believe that Avatar was good.

[Show spoiler]I ONLY ARGUE WHEN IM RIGHT, WISE MAN HERE!

ok now you are kinda lost man, imma take the time to reply to each thing you just mentioned buddy k

1.Why do sh!tty quality jeans sell for $ 125.00 and really well made ones sell for $30.00? Are you sure they are shitty??? Some might be or some could be handmade, or made with a different type of material!

2. Why do people pay $thousands of dollars for shiney little rocks for their fingers when the supply fills wharehouses the size of the Rosebowl? Well my man its called RARITY, they control the amount to keep it rare. Some people would consider you not being intelligent for buying packaged media when you can just download the same thing?? Get the pic?

3. Why do people buy $10,000.00 watches to perform the same task as a $40.00watch? This statement was aweful i would bet my life that a 10,000 watch would not only LAST LONGER but outperform a 40 watch in a heart beat! When i say outperform i mean, it has every option a watch could have.

4. Why do some perfumes and colognes sell for $300.00 an ounce
Wow this one was easy, you go buy a bottle of Axe and ill go buy a bottle of black polo, and see who smells the same after 1 hour of wear.

5. Why does Red bull cost 5 times as much as a Pepsi?
Have you even drank red bull before, its a energy drink, on a whole different level, and to include its used hardcore with liqour, you cant even compare the two. One is a soft beverage and the other is a enegry drink?

The Point is you're trying to compare cheap Sh1t with Quality items, since you talking like this i would only imagine that you have the cheapest of HT equipment since youre theory is people send extra money on things that arent really worth it.

[Show spoiler]I ONLY ARGUE WHEN IM RIGHT, WISE MAN HERE!

[jhiggy23]

Originally Posted by Q!

Isn't it the other way around?

I thought The Illusionist was way more "Hollywoody" and I thought it was a much poorer movie. It also actually had a crappy "twist" or was that not meant to be a twist?

I won't debate the twist or the quality of the film, because you are certainly entitled to either liking it or disliking it. But are you kidding about the Hollywood thing??? The Illusionist had a much smaller budget and was a much smaller tale relying on the nuances of writing, directing, and cinematography. The Prestige had a top shelf cast, a big name director and cinematographer, and followed many Hollywood conventions. I really don't know how to argue this one because I haven't come across someone who's disagreed!

[jhiggy23]

Originally Posted by JLant19

jhiggy warned me of you coming after me! I am sorry but I have to say.... you are wrong! jk man I'm sorry you didn't like it. I thought it had very realistic scenarios. Idk about the scene when

[Show spoiler]the three guys go into town and Eldridge gets kidnapped.

I'll def you give you that scene.

squids arguments, unlike jade's, are very legitimate regarding this film. I don't agree with him, of course, but he does have a point. Glad you liked it bud.

[jhiggy23]

Originally Posted by SquidPuppet

Fogster. Billions of people DID like it. But billions of people eat dorritos. Doesnt mean Dorritos are a quality food, just means people like 'em.

FTW

[jhiggy23]

Originally Posted by JLant19

Yea I have to agree, not a bad film at all, but Zodiac imo is def the better of the two. Robin Williams id do a great job as well. He played a great sick twisted role also in One Hour Photo. He was just weird and creepy. That was a really good film also.

I've only seen bits and pieces of it.