What up with EngadgetHD!!

[xtop]

for as big as the pixar movies are. blu-ray should have won by a lot more. i agree with engadget

[Beta-guy]

sorry for my ignorance, what movies were released last week?

[xtop]

ratatouille and cars were the big hits for that weeks numbers

[savage1984]

Look guys, the numbers are reflective of the 90k a2's that were nearly given away with 10 hd movies. If you take that out, it would have been 90-10. So let's wait for the disney/pixar residuals for next week. C'mon. You think the cheap-e's who bought the $98 players are actually going to spend $20 -$25 on hd dvd's. They're probably just using them to upconvert their old dvd's.

Yeah 65-35 wasn't what we expected but it's still kick-ass!

[Smallville206]

All I know is that we are stuck on the 2-1 sales margin, even a consistent 3-1 or higher would be something to be confident about.

[Joe Cain]

The tl51 doesn't yet exist for any practical purpose. Straggling behind a nearly 2:1 frontrunner is not "keeping up."

[Smallville206]

Originally Posted by Joe Cain

The tl51 doesn't yet exist for any practical purpose. Straggling behind a nearly 2:1 frontrunner is not "keeping up."

2-1 would be more impressive if you were talking huge numbers, HD sales number in general are a drop in the bucket. That's why as small as the numbers are in the first place I think having a 3-1 margin or higher is important when you are trying to remove all doubt for retailers and everyone else out there on the fence.
My local Best Buys space for HD-DVDs is growing, pretty much in line with Blu ray, that is not something to be happy about. At a 3-1 margin or higher every single week, retailers would clearly see they are wasting their time with HD-DVD, and that is not happening for the most part. Leaning towards Blu ray is not good enough.

[Joe Cain]

Originally Posted by xtop

2 big pixar movies come out and they keep the lead at roughly 2 to 1. you fanboys just refuse to admit hd dvd isn't going anywhere anytime soon. i dont mean to offend, but its comical how much in denial most of this site is. i'm not saying hd dvd is going to win or anything, but there should be concern imo

I am not a fanboy.

2:1 is just a ratio. The real-world numbers continue to grow, and it will be harder and harder for HD-DVD to surmount that margin of loss the bigger the numbers the grow, even if the ratio stays the same.

If you intend to denigrate other posters, you probably don't belong here.

[Beta-guy]

Originally Posted by xtop

2 big pixar movies come out and they keep the lead at roughly 2 to 1. you fanboys just refuse to admit hd dvd isn't going anywhere anytime soon. i dont mean to offend, but its comical how much in denial most of this site is. i'm not saying hd dvd is going to win or anything, but there should be concern imo

let me ask you something, I think it's getting cleaer you are HD-DVD supporter, do you think Warner will got HD-DVD exclusive or BD exclusive? Why'd you choose HD-DVD and argue in favor of HD-DVD? BD is increasing the sales gap between HD-DVD and BD, look at the sales a few weeks after Paramount switched and look at the sales now... I expect in 6 months time BD will dominate HD-DVD, depending of course how Q4 and Q1 work out

[sj001]

Originally Posted by xtop

2 big pixar movies come out and they keep the lead at roughly 2 to 1. you fanboys just refuse to admit hd dvd isn't going anywhere anytime soon. i dont mean to offend, but its comical how much in denial most of this site is. i'm not saying hd dvd is going to win or anything, but there should be concern imo

How is it denial? I'm sorry but the lead has been ALMOST always 2 to 1 or greater? How exactly is that bad?

Jeez, if my team won in football 28-14, would you then say, well, they SHOULD'VE won 42-14, so it isn't much of a win?

[rjg]

Originally Posted by savage1984

Look guys, the numbers are reflective of the 90k a2's that were nearly given away with 10 hd movies. If you take that out, it would have been 90-10. So let's wait for the disney/pixar residuals for next week. C'mon. You think the cheap-e's who bought the $98 players are actually going to spend $20 -$25 on hd dvd's. They're probably just using them to upconvert their old dvd's.

Yeah 65-35 wasn't what we expected but it's still kick-ass!

This is a good statement, they sold a lot of a2's players and they got 10 movies there. This is only helped them not look TOO bad, but c'mon reality is blu crushed them for the week.

[Grif32]

Originally Posted by savage1984

Look guys, the numbers are reflective of the 90k a2's that were nearly given away with 10 hd movies. If you take that out, it would have been 90-10. So let's wait for the disney/pixar residuals for next week. C'mon. You think the cheap-e's who bought the $98 players are actually going to spend $20 -$25 on hd dvd's. They're probably just using them to upconvert their old dvd's.

Yeah 65-35 wasn't what we expected but it's still kick-ass!

Toshiba gave away 10 free movies??

[Smallville206]

I also agree somewhat. For whatever reason HD-DVD is hanging around and I think just enough to make a studio such as WB hesitate. If we consistently started pulling away winning 70-30, 75-25 or higher there wouldn't be much of a reason to hesitate going exclusive. The fact they have multiple titles in the top ten also makes many retailers believe there is a reason to keep HD-DVD around.
I'm hoping we will see some new trends forming with the increase in PS3's being sold, but HD-DVD is still doing enough in my eyes to give us concern, not that they will win out, but that they will lead to the HD market folding in general as this continues to prolong.

[E-Dogg]

Originally Posted by xtop

for as big as the pixar movies are. blu-ray should have won by a lot more. i agree with engadget

Toshiba put their crappy players out there and the ignorantant cheap masses flocked to their desparate attempts to hang on. You agree with engadget? Oh please you should be thinking how we have won every week this entire year and not on how much we won by. 65%-35% is huge and we destroyed them regardless. A win is a win whether it's by 1 point or 50 points. Engadget is a HD-DVD biased site just like highdefdigest.com and any way you try to spin it Blu is winning period. They need to suck it up and take a loss like a man.