INCEPTION Review Thread (SPOILERS!!)

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Originally Posted by Lopan

PETRA seems to be one of the few people on this thread that seems to get and understand the concept of this movie. Everything is explained and laid out for you with an ending that does not need to be spelled out to people.
I loved it the first time and it was even better the second time. If a movie gets people talking and disscussing like this then the director has done his job.

I salute you Lopan.

[radagast]

Originally Posted by Lopan

PETRA seems to be one of the few people on this thread that seems to get and understand the concept of this movie.

So start a fan club.

However, I'm one of those pesky people that insists that reality exists. So even though the point of the movie is

[Show spoiler]Cobb's guilt and self-forgiveness, and Nolan decided to give the movie an ambiguous ending, the pesky question is do his children get their father back? Does he REALLY go back to them or is he going to be eternally involved in mental onanism?

There ARE clues. Now I realize that psychologically, people to recognize the clues that support the conclusion they want and ignore the contrary clues, but really, after seeing it again, I think the clues point to

[Show spoiler]Cobb and Saito escaping limbo.

[Q?]

The 18th of September I'll finally see Inception.

Apparently incompetent people run our theater, they knew NOTHING about this movie, I mean how!!??!?!?!??!?!??!

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Originally Posted by radagast

So start a fan club.

However, I'm one of those pesky people that insists that reality exists. So even though the point of the movie was

[Show spoiler]Cobb's guilt and self-forgiveness, and Nolan decided to give the movie an ambiguous ending, the pesky question is do his children get their father back? Does he REALLY go back to them or is he going to be eternally involved in mental onanism?

There ARE clues. Now I realize that psychologically, people to recognize the clues that support the conclusion they want and ignore the contrary clues, but really, after seeing it again, I think the clues point to

[Show spoiler]Cobb and Saito escaping limbo.

Ok. Let me clear something up regarding my perspective on the film.

[Show spoiler]I clearly do believe, without a single doubt, that Cobb escapes all dreamspaces. He returns to reality and reunites with his children. There is no question of that in my mind. HOWEVER, that doesn't negate the fact that I also am aware that I wouldn't feel any differently if it were the other way around. Cobb completed his journey when he confronted and denied his guilt personified. That is when the film actually ended for me. The rest was just fluff to seemingly tie-up loose ends for the sake of a modern audience not rejecting the film.

[radagast]

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

Ok. Let me clear something up regarding my perspective on the film.

[Show spoiler]I clearly do believe, without a single doubt, that Cobb escapes all dreamspaces. He returns to reality and reunites with his children. There is no question of that in my mind. HOWEVER, that doesn't negate the fact that I also am aware that I wouldn't feel any differently if it were the other way around. Cobb completed his journey when he confronted and denied his guilt personified. That is when the film actually ended for me. The rest was just fluff to seemingly tie-up loose ends for the sake of a modern audience not rejecting the film.

I'm not sure I agree entirely. Nolan didn't make it absolutely clear. He DID make it ambigous enough that people could take it either way. So I don't see the ending as fluff, when you don't see what

[Show spoiler]Saito does with the gun, or see the totem fall over.

[mjbethancourt]

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

Ok. Let me clear something up regarding my perspective on the film.

[Show spoiler]I clearly do believe, without a single doubt, that Cobb escapes all dreamspaces. He returns to reality and reunites with his children. There is no question of that in my mind. HOWEVER, that doesn't negate the fact that I also am aware that I wouldn't feel any differently if it were the other way around. Cobb completed his journey when he confronted and denied his guilt personified. That is when the film actually ended for me. The rest was just fluff to seemingly tie-up loose ends for the sake of a modern audience not rejecting the film.

I agree with that, too.

[Show spoiler]I think the basic indication is that he did get everything back to normal. I think the intentional ambiguity is just an artistic flourish to make a point, that the mundane details are not important, what's really important is that Cobb is at peace. The closing shot of the top, I believe, is just a comment that getting back to his children had been his dream, which has then come true.

[SquidPuppet]

Originally Posted by sheeraz

Hypnotically haunting in the sense that it would have been better to watch the movie with ear plugs. Honestly, at some points I couldn't even hear what the characters were saying, the music was so loud. If you can scratch a piece of metal against another for two and a half hours what you get is Inception's soundtrack.

That was a quote from an article.

You know, Hans Zimmer writes a score, he doesnt mix the soundtrack, so dont blame him.

[lDlisturb3d]

Originally Posted by Lopan

PETRA seems to be one of the few people on this thread that seems to get and understand the concept of this movie. Everything is explained and laid out for you with an ending that does not need to be spelled out to people.
I loved it the first time and it was even better the second time. If a movie gets people talking and disscussing like this then the director has done his job.

You are 100% Correct buddy

[Mike53421]

Was just gonna pop my head in for the first time in a week or so to point out how the soundtrack remains awesome. Turns out it's sort of on-topic!

[Lopan]

Everyone only seems to think that Cobb's story was the focus of the movie which is fine. But am I the only one here that watched it and cared only on their mission? When they "did it" and the very climatic "kick" at the end, I just wanted to get up and cheer (same feeling of Star Wars: A New Hope ending) They busted their asses but got the job done and C. Murphy's scene was a tear jerker.

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Originally Posted by Lopan

Everyone only seems to think that Cobb's story was the focus of the movie which is fine. But am I the only one here that watched it and cared only on their mission? When they "did it" and the very climatic "kick" at the end, I just wanted to get up and cheer (same feeling of Star Wars: A New Hope ending) They busted their asses but got the job done and C. Murphy's scene was a tear jerker.

Absolutely. The first time I watched it I felt the same way. It's kind of interesting because after that first viewing I had this insatiable feeling that I had missed something though. Thus the reason that I couldn't sleep and had to go back and see it again within 24 hours. Upon the second viewing is when I came to realize what the film was really about.

If you think about it, it's really kind of brilliant. With Inception, Nolan kind of

[Show spoiler] pulled a Prestige on the viewers in a way. He makes the story "the pledge" while the character of Cobb turns out to be both "the turn" AND "the prestige." Not sure if I'm explaining myself properly with that statement. Basically, I'm referring to the notion that Nolan crafted Inception to have a "slight of hand" quality about it that has some viewers mistaken about what his real intentions were.

[lDlisturb3d]

72,000 votes later, Inception is still number 3 on IMDB

[Foggy]

Originally Posted by lDlisturb3d

72,000 votes later, Inception is still number 3 on IMDB

so, Inception is the flavor of the month, it'll move down.

[lDlisturb3d]

Originally Posted by Foggy

so, Inception is the flavor of the month, it'll move down.

Yeah. It will always be top 10

[Buddy Christ]

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

Absolutely. The first time I watched it I felt the same way. It's kind of interesting because after that first viewing I had this insatiable feeling that I had missed something though. Thus the reason that I couldn't sleep and had to go back and see it again within 24 hours. Upon the second viewing is when I came to realize what the film was really about.

If you think about it, it's really kind of brilliant. With Inception, Nolan kind of

[Show spoiler] pulled a Prestige on the viewers in a way. He makes the story "the pledge" while the character of Cobb turns out to be both "the turn" AND "the prestige." Not sure if I'm explaining myself properly with that statement. Basically, I'm referring to the notion that Nolan crafted Inception to have a "slight of hand" quality about it that has some viewers mistaken about what his real intentions were.

There is nothing sleight of hand (IMO) about this movie. It is very straight forward and kind of cerebral. The only iffy part is the end but actually that is basic too. I find no ambiguity. Then again I have seen it 6 times. If you pay attention the second time everything is quite clear. Through dialog you are pretty much spoon fed the answers, but the first time you see it you do not hear it.

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Originally Posted by Buddy Christ

There is nothing sleight of hand (IMO) about this movie. It is very straight forward and kind of cerebral. The only iffy part is the end but actually that is basic too. I find no ambiguity. Then again I have seen it 6 times. If you pay attention the second time everything is quite clear. Through dialog you are pretty much spoon fed the answers, but the first time you see it you do not hear it.

I'm not talking story. I'm talking about the nature of the film.

[Show spoiler]Nolan makes everyone think the film is about his character trying to get home to his kids when, upon further inspection, the film is more about Cobb dealing with his guilt.

That is where I apply the sleight of hand aspect. He makes you focus on the surface presentation while there is something much deeper going on "out of direct sight."

[mjbethancourt]

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

I'm not talking story. I'm talking about the nature of the film.

[Show spoiler]Nolan makes everyone think the film is about his character trying to get home to his kids when, upon further inspection, the film is more about Cobb dealing with his guilt.

That is where I apply the sleight of hand aspect. He makes you focus on the surface presentation while there is something much deeper going on "out of direct sight."

Classic Nolan misdirection, a concept narrated in 'The Prestige': every good magic trick depends on drawing your attention to the wrong thing. Problem is, it seems to have rubbed some of the more unimaginative viewers the wrong way.

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Originally Posted by mjbethancourt

Classic Nolan misdirection, a concept narrated in 'The Prestige': every good magic trick depends on drawing your attention to the wrong thing. Problem is, it seems to have rubbed some of the more unimaginative viewers the wrong way.

Ya. That's what I've been saying.

[Buddy Christ]

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

I'm not talking story. I'm talking about the nature of the film.

[Show spoiler]Nolan makes everyone think the film is about his character trying to get home to his kids when, upon further inspection, the film is more about Cobb dealing with his guilt.

That is where I apply the sleight of hand aspect. He makes you focus on the surface presentation while there is something much deeper going on "out of direct sight."

[Show spoiler] No! The story IS about him trying to see his kids. That is Cobbs motivation. Though his struggle to deal with his guilt about his wife is VERY essential to the story, it is not what drives him. If not for the will to see his children, Cobb would just accept Mal and go on. But because his need to see and be with his children is so strong, THEN he sees he must confront his demon in Mal.

So...It is a story of a man who is trying to get home, but like so many other classic stories, he must firs overcome a major obstacle..himself.

[D-Blitz]

Originally Posted by lDlisturb3d

72,000 votes later, Inception is still number 3 on IMDB

IMO it does not deserve to be number 3 but it does deserve a spot in the top 25. Personally, it would fall somewhere in my top 25 but not no. 3. That's just my opinion of course.