(Adding to) Home Theater Database and Wiki System Help Thread

[jw]

I wouldnt give this alot of worry as it will most likely get changed again when the title is released on Amazon.

Hard Candy for example has both links so someone will submit a 10/5 change that overrides the 8/29 change now. These exclusives are tricky but nothing to be overly concerned about unless they have their own listings.

[LordCrumb]

Originally Posted by -jonny-

This still hasn't been fixed

All the google search results for 'Byôsoku 5 senchimêtoru' come back as ER for me.. Its obviously been done with the american spelling, rather than uk english.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0983213/

Unless you can provide a cover scan with the uk english spelling..

[-jonny-]

Originally Posted by jw

I wouldnt give this alot of worry as it will most likely get changed again when the title is released on Amazon.

IMDb and Amazon clearly state that the UK title is "5 Centimetres per Second".

This is a UK release, so the UK title has to be used of course. You can use the American spelling as one of the AKAs if you want Americans to be able to search for it.

It's not even an American movie. The UK would only use the American spelling if it was an American movie (and even then it is sometimes changed).

There's no point even discussing it - it's just a simple correction.

[-jonny-]

Originally Posted by KaiGusto

All the google search results for 'Byôsoku 5 senchimêtoru' come back as ER for me.. Its obviously been done with the american spelling, rather than uk english.

It is CENTIMETRES in UK and Australia.

Our English is different to American English!

[LordCrumb]

Originally Posted by -jonny-

IMDb and Amazon clearly state that the UK title is "5 Centimetres per Second".

This is a UK release, so the UK title has to be used of course. You can use the American spelling as one of the AKAs if you want Americans to be able to search for it.

It's not even an American movie. The UK would only use the American spelling if it was an American movie (and even then it is sometimes changed).

There's no point even discussing it - it's just a simple correction.

JW was not referring to your post, but the post above his.

[-jonny-]

Originally Posted by KaiGusto

All the google search results for 'Byôsoku 5 senchimêtoru' come back as ER for me.. Its obviously been done with the american spelling, rather than uk english.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0983213/

Unless you can provide a cover scan with the uk english spelling..

Originally Posted by KaiGusto

JW was not referring to your post, but the post above his.

OK. But I'm still right, and it still needs changing...

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by jw

I wouldnt give this alot of worry as it will most likely get changed again when the title is released on Amazon.

Hard Candy for example has both links so someone will submit a 10/5 change that overrides the 8/29 change now. These exclusives are tricky but nothing to be overly concerned about unless they have their own listings.

Thanks jw. I just don't want to spend time trying to update certain fields if they're more or less arbitrary. I'd rather focus on the other details but wasn't sure if I was overlooking a set of rules.

This wasn't isolated to release dates and I seen it happen to other firelds such as disc size, aspect ratio, etc. Just don't want to be wasting a lot of time for nothing if you now what I mean.

[jw]

AR and OAR are other fields as well where the developers would prefer to have the screencap measured rather than just info copied from a disc case. I see members mix them up, guess, post weird ones, etc. So I know those arent actual. Many websites just copy info from press releases and its like a virus, If it starts off wrong at one site it escalates all over the web before its over with

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by jw

AR and OAR are other fields as well where the developers would prefer to have the screencap measured rather than just info copied from a disc case. I see members mix them up, guess, post weird ones, etc. So I know those arent actual. Many websites just copy info from press releases and its like a virus, If it starts off wrong at one site it escalates all over the web before its over with

Understood, I also prefer to verify info (which can be tedious) rather than copying it from the back of the case. Is there any specific method of measuring AR the developers prefer or a specific way notes/comments should be annotated when submitting this info?

[-jonny-]

Originally Posted by -jonny-

IMDb and Amazon clearly state that the UK title is "5 Centimetres per Second".

This is a UK release, so the UK title has to be used of course. You can use the American spelling as one of the AKAs if you want Americans to be able to search for it.

It's not even an American movie. The UK would only use the American spelling if it was an American movie (and even then it is sometimes changed).

There's no point even discussing it - it's just a simple correction.

So you're not going to change it til there is cover art, even though I have proved I am right? It's a simple, obvious correction. There is NOTHING to say that I might be wrong. IT'S JUST A SPELLING CORRECTION!

[ShockFly]

Originally Posted by -jonny-

So you're not going to change it til there is cover art, even though I have proved I am right? It's a simple, obvious correction. There is NOTHING to say that I might be wrong. IT'S JUST A SPELLING CORRECTION!

If I may add something to this... I'm not from the UK (as you can see on the left), but even I know that all movies in the UK use their own correct UK spelling. It wouldn't make ANY sense to release a movie as Men of Honor or 5 Centimeters per Second in the UK.

By the way... talking about Men of Honour (yes, the UK version). I own this movie and not one time it says Men of Honor, it's Men of Honour all over the place on the cover (this site provides its own prove in this case). So I feel like the title should be Men of Honour and the secondary title should be Men of Honor (just for searching purposes).

To complete my story: I also own the US version of Zwartboek, a Dutch movie internationally known as Black Book. That one is actually released as Black Book in both the US and UK, so I feel it's appropriate to keep that as the primary title, even though it isn't the original title. So I think Blu-ray.com lists this movie correctly and therefore I cannot understand the decisions made for some UK movies.

[jw]

Originally Posted by ShockFly

If I may add something to this... I'm not from the UK (as you can see on the left), but even I know that all movies in the UK use their own correct UK spelling. It wouldn't make ANY sense to release a movie as Men of Honor or 5 Centimeters per Second in the UK.

By the way... talking about Men of Honour (yes, the UK version). I own this movie and not one time it says Men of Honor, it's Men of Honour all over the place on the cover (this site provides its own prove in this case). So I feel like the title should be Men of Honour and the secondary title should be Men of Honor (just for searching purposes).

To complete my story: I also own the US version of Zwartboek, a Dutch movie internationally known as Black Book. That one is actually released as Black Book in both the US and UK, so I feel it's appropriate to keep that as the primary title, even though it isn't the original title. So I think Blu-ray.com lists this movie correctly and therefore I cannot understand the decisions made for some UK movies.

good suggestion, second title added per your request. You can always suggest changes yourself by clicking the edit button

[-jonny-]

Originally Posted by jw

good suggestion, second title added per your request. You can always suggest changes yourself by clicking the edit button

But "Men of Honour" should be the primary title, and "Men of Honor" the second, because it's the British blu-ray. There needs to be more consistency with this sort of thing.

[jw]

noted, Thanks for the input and have a nice day

[-jonny-]

Does this site aim to use the American title as primary title for all releases in all countries? Or does it aim to use the American title for American releases, and foreign title for foreign releases with the American title also included for search purposes?

This is just question. Not bothered either way, but would be good to know which it is.

[pro-bassoonist]

Jonny,

Our team determines on a per title basis how information is entered in the database, meaning that it is not of crucial importance whether a title is spelled in British English or American English. The same rule applies for the use of French and Canadian French. And Portuguese and Brazilian Portuguese.

You appear to be under the assumption that there is a standard which mandates that film titles should be spelled as they are distributed in their country of origin. If this were the case, then Paramount Pictures would not have altered this title from American English to British English when preparing it for distribution in the United Kingdom.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/True-Colours...713059&sr=1-19


There are many more examples pointing to the fact that the studios and retailers follow exactly the same procedure we do. With other words, our staff members are doing exactly what they should.

Thank you

Pro-B

[-jonny-]

Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist

Jonny,

Our team determines on a per title basis how information is entered in the database, meaning that it is not of crucial importance whether a title is spelled in British English or American English. The same rule applies for the use of French and Canadian French. And Portuguese and Brazilian Portuguese.

You appear to be under the assumption that there is a standard which mandates that film titles should be spelled as they are distributed in their country of origin. If this were the case, then Paramount Pictures would not have altered this title from American English to British English when preparing it for distribution in the United Kingdom.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/True-Colours...713059&sr=1-19


There are many more examples pointing to the fact that the studios and retailers follow exactly the same procedure we do. With other words, our staff members are doing exactly what they should.

Thank you

Pro-B

No, not country of origin. Country of release. True Colors is called True Colours in the UK because that's the British spelling. I'm saying that is a good thing and how things should be listed. If there was a True Colors blu-ray released in the UK, shouldn't this site list it as "True Colours" (as per the release) rather than the American title (which should be the secondary title)?

Obviously, British releases are of most interest to the British users. Therefore the British titles should be used as primary titles (just like on Amazon etc).

I hope I am being clear

[pro-bassoonist]

Originally Posted by -jonny-

No, not country of origin. Country of release. True Colors is called True Colours in the UK because that's the British spelling.

Again, I am unaware of a standard that mandates that American titles should be translated in British English. Example:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Color-Purple...3714376&sr=1-2

And I most certainly do not believe that the database we have built is in any way compromised because British English and American English are being used. If the content producers can use both, as are established retailers, I don't see I reason why we should not. And, finally, I really do not believe it is fair to criticize our staff members for doing what essentially everyone else in the business does

Pro-B

[jw]

Originally Posted by -jonny-

Obviously, British releases are of most interest to the British users. Therefore the British titles should be used as primary titles (just like on Amazon etc).

I hope I am being clear

I agree, but both spellings are in each release as you requested, which line they are on or proper order is irrelevant. When you search Men of Honour you get the correct title which is why I added the 3rd title to the centimeters movie.. Its so when searching you get all countries releases, not just a UK one of so forth.
All this is , as you said a couple posts back is nitpicking

[rdodolak]

Can you add the following EAN to the 1408 Netherlands movie profile:

EAN: 8-715664-051740

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/1408-Blu-ray/15646/


How do we go about getting images added to the profiles?