CNBC article on format war!!!

[RUR]

"But the fact that NBC and Universal and are partners doesn't color my handicapping of the ongoing format war that has consumers caught in the middle."

'course not

[JadedRaverLA]

He says that standalones are neck-and-neck, then says that without the PS3 (which wasn't included in standalones of course) there wouldn't even be a competition.

It sounds to me like without the PS3, there actually would be a competition, instead of one format slowly dying. It's a bad sign when a corporate conglomerate starts using their news division to spread FUD.

[kiskiboy97]

"Take PS3 out of the mix and there isn't even a competition here."

A lot of people, like me, bought the PS3 because it was, at the time, the best available Blu-ray player on the market. I think the new Panny beats it at the moment, but once the PS3 lands the 1.1 profile update, it'll once again be the leading Blu-ray player available.

Yawn. Another day, another questionable article from Goldman.

[Borris]

No surprise this sounds one-sided. Afterall, it's also the same company that runs MS-NBC. Wouldn't have expected anything less from them.

[Go Blu]

NICE, as usual 2:1

[mystiksuicide]

We need to CRUSH the red ants!!! Everyone vote especially since it's a friendly site to the duders!!!!

[greekjgg]

Yea, I just sent him an email letting him no that he knows nothing as he only talks about Bourne this week, when the real story will be with Harry Potter.

He totally missed the boat and the chance to talk about the real news this week.

[Blu-Ray Buckeye]

I like this excerpt:

I say neck-and-neck because I haven't seen any hard evidence that consumers are buying PS3's BECAUSE there's also a Blu-ray player inside. The PS3 relationship continues to be a boon for the Blu-ray format, but what's amazing is how close HD DVD continues to keep this race.

Immediately after he mentions the 3:1 sales ratio in favor of BD on Black friday. Hey Dorkus, you think maybe that's some "hard evidence" that PS3 owners actually are buying movies? Also how exactly is that an example of things being so "close"?

I'm amazed that people will argue that player sales are even or that HD-DVD is ahead then they can't reconcile the difference in movie sales. "Gosh, I just can't figure out why BD sells more given less player sales AND a lower attach rate." Sure you can't, because it's mathematically impossible. The assumptions are bogus.

[surfdude12]

(1) "i've seen no hard evidence that people are buying PS3 BECAUSE of its blu-ray movie playing..."

RIGHT HERE, I AM YOUR EVIDENCE...movie playing #1, original intent. but it would be inconvenient (al gore) to take me and all other people like me into account

(2) "400 percent increase in HD-DVD sales..." yeah when you start from NOTHING, "percent increases" sure can get high....the biggest SCAM STATISTIC in history, whoever bites on it is a pure MORON

[jetydosa]

The poll just took off! LOL

Still shows very clearly for me. Looks like theyve gotten another 100 votes (almost all BR) in teh past ~30min.

[jkwest]

Voted

[jctash]

I'm tired of hearing his crap. That guy is just plain retarded...If you look at his picture he looks like he has a stick up his but. Blu ray is leading the poll 70-30

[CptGreedle]

I voted, up to 70% Blu-ray, 19% HD DVD

[Amel]

where is the logic

I bought the PS3 mainly as a bluray player, its future proof and when a game that really interests me comes out I will go and get it....why would I miss on a full equipped media box?!

[bajor27]

Take PS3 out of the mix and there isn't even a competition here.

I love it when people assume that if something were different, things would have played out the exact same way. It's like saying if a hockey team didn't have their star goaltender, than the net would just have been empty. I think maybe they would have gotten a different goalie and put him in net.

If Sony and the BDA didn't have the PS3, I'm 100% postive that they would have done things differently.

Also, since I bought a PS3 specifically because it has a blu-ray player instead of buying a standalone (is that evidence enough) - if there wasn't a PS3, I would have just bought a standalone player. Did they ever think of that? Without the PS3, the total blu-ray players sold would be less, but I'm quite confident that the standalone player sales would be a lot higher.

[sj001]

Voted. Sounds like this guy has been listening to Ken Graffeo... "gamers don't buy movies"... freaking unbelievable!

[lcseds]

"Take PS3 out of the mix and there isn't even a competition here."

How is that? 700,000 HD units. 2.7 Million Blu Ray. Remove the 2 Million PS3 and it's still 700,000 BD units against 700,000 HD units. Why is there "No Competition Here"?

Fuzzy math.

[Julman]

Originally Posted by lcseds

"Take PS3 out of the mix and there isn't even a competition here."

How is that? 700,000 HD units. 2.7 Million Blu Ray. Remove the 2 Million PS3 and it's still 700,000 BD units against 700,000 HD units. Why is there "No Competition Here"?

Fuzzy math.

In this hypothetical world that Goldman paints where there are no PS3's, most likely a large percentage of consumers who bought a PS3 for Blu-ray usage would end up buying stand alone players. In this fictitious world, the numbers would be more like HD units 700,000 and BD units around 1.5 million. In that world it would still be no competition. All Blu.

[cartier]

IF Universal goes neutral or even Blu exclusive next year, what will happen to this guy? Any ideas on his new article?

[scook]

Time will tell who is the winner. We know it, just give em time.