Swanni's 2008 Predictions: Warner Bros. to Endorse Blu-ray - Page 2 - Blu-ray Forum

jason_grumpy · 12-12-2007, 05:30 PM

Only smoke? I'd say it's closer to this...

jason_grumpy · 12-12-2007, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Esox50

Again, as I posted a few weeks ago, don't think of the tech aspects of a solution. Think of a financial solution that will "allow" Toshiba to cease hostilities and move to a DUO player to support current HD DVD Libraries for a few years.

Looks like everyone is on to M$ now; I expect they'll be of little concern in this between Toshiba and the BDA. In fact, the demotion of Amir and Michael Bay's comment dovetail nice with this theory, doesn't it?

Thank god Hollywood figured this out before it was too late...

I think we just witnessed the proverbial 'olive branch' offered to Toshiba via the media. Funny how now this one comes out after stating a 336 million dollar adjustment down for revenue had HD-DVD and promotions as part of the blame.

Those Japanese guys love to save face.. wonder if they'll bite.

roachxp · 12-12-2007, 05:47 PM

WB can't jump over to Blu right away, they have to buy the Blu replication equipment. Right now WB does all HDDVD in house since they upgraded their DVD equipment to support HDDVD. The Blu replication is currently outsourced to another company.

hc666 · 12-12-2007, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jason_grumpy

I think we just witnessed the proverbial 'olive branch' offered to Toshiba via the media. Funny how now this one comes out after stating a 336 million dollar adjustment down for revenue had HD-DVD and promotions as part of the blame.

Those Japanese guys love to save face.. wonder if they'll bite.

Can't wait to buy a Toshiba Blu Ray Player. They make great stuff

I would bet alot that everyone will come together in 2008. Feel the love!!!

The Guardian · 12-12-2007, 05:49 PM

I don't think there'd be a whole lot of negotiation... maybe just technological assistance to Toshiba to help them make dual-format players for the next generation? Along the lines of how LG does it most likely.

If Warner goes Blu, I expect a bunch of tiny studios would follow (remember all the ones commenting after the Paramount switch that they had been on the verge...)... how long do you think major retailers will keep stocking HD DVD? Certainly they'll start having a very hard time selling any of it!

hc666 · 12-12-2007, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Guardian

I don't think there'd be a whole lot of negotiation... maybe just technological assistance to Toshiba to help them make dual-format players for the next generation? Along the lines of how LG does it most likely.

True...

Kind of like how Pioneer or Onkyo, can't remember, still offers Laser Disc players.

I could see this.

haushausman · 12-12-2007, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hc666

Can't wait to buy a Toshiba Blu Ray Player. They make great stuff

Tosh has been manufacturing the Cell Chip for PS3 40 gig for awhile. They wanted to be part of Blu-ray since the get go but forced into HD-DVD by MS. That Rough Notes article is a great little history lesson.

No wonder they are helping with the Cell Chip...

zipbags · 12-12-2007, 06:01 PM

Well lets hope he is right.

quexos · 12-12-2007, 06:18 PM

Everybody seem to be predicting that Warner will go Blu exlusive these days.
Let us hope that Warner do the same prediction, lol

tron3 · 12-12-2007, 07:02 PM

Isn't Swanni the same idiot who last week predicted a winner in 2008 but refused to say who? Ohh great Swanni, that is so wise and universal!

Utter bs.

Listen, I have a single weather prediction for everyday of the year and it never fails. I predict we will have weather tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

I think it's too late for that, unless the compromise is Blu-ray. But, I can't see Microsoft ever agreeing to a Java-based standard.

Gary

Why do we need Microsoft? We don't. If Toshiba decides to follow BD they follow OUR standards. MS just becomes a barking dog behind a chain link fence at that point. Anyone know why MS would still be an influence once BD wins?

olarmy96 · 12-12-2007, 07:17 PM

If that's the case, then it could be something that supports our insiders' information. Equipment like that has lead times, and sometimes experts are consulted on purchasing specs., etc.

Quote:

Originally Posted by roachxp

WB can't jump over to Blu right away, they have to buy the Blu replication equipment. Right now WB does all HDDVD in house since they upgraded their DVD equipment to support HDDVD. The Blu replication is currently outsourced to another company.

joeorc · 12-12-2007, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

I think it's too late for that, unless the compromise is Blu-ray. But, I can't see Microsoft ever agreeing to a Java-based standard.

Gary

i am with you on that Gary..but they may not have very much of a choice and start targeting existing Standard build DVD top set boxes, and other devices because they may have too because BD-JAVA is a big direct threat to Microsoft, this realy is not about HD DVD or Blu-Ray with Microsoft its all about HDI pure and simple.

that's the reason were in this "so called format war anyway"
all over HDI vs' JAVA

hc666 · 12-12-2007, 07:23 PM

Are Toshiba and MS contracted to each other through this til the death?

joeorc · 12-12-2007, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hc666

Are Toshiba and MS contracted to each other through this til the death?

in a sense only Software wise i posted early today you may want to read this over and come to your own OPINION on the matter :

key points:

Toshiba and Microsoft Announce Plans to Form Advanced Interactivity Consortium
DreamWorks Animation, Paramount, Universal and Warner join IT and consumer electronics industry leaders to extend and promote interactive experiences beyond optical media to new platforms.

The new organization will also focus attention on ways to bring these advanced scenarios to other services and platforms, including digital downloads to DVD players, PCs, TVs, cell phones, portable media players and game consoles.

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/p...hibaAICPR.mspx

Maximus · 12-12-2007, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeorc

in a sense only Software wise i posted early today you may want to read this over and come to your own OPINION on the matter :

key points:

Toshiba and Microsoft Announce Plans to Form Advanced Interactivity Consortium
DreamWorks Animation, Paramount, Universal and Warner join IT and consumer electronics industry leaders to extend and promote interactive experiences beyond optical media to new platforms.

The new organization will also focus attention on ways to bring these advanced scenarios to other services and platforms, including digital downloads to DVD players, PCs, TVs, cell phones, portable media players and game consoles.

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/p...hibaAICPR.mspx

All that is is they renamed HDi to Advanced Interactivity.

Anyone who wants to use HDi has to join the consortium.

TruBlu2 · 12-12-2007, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiger roach

I already have the champagne on ice for when it becomes official.

When WB announces it, that will be a great day for all of us. much celebrating will be done.

TruBlu2 · 12-12-2007, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roachxp

WB can't jump over to Blu right away, they have to buy the Blu replication equipment. Right now WB does all HDDVD in house since they upgraded their DVD equipment to support HDDVD. The Blu replication is currently outsourced to another company.

They will announce it in 1Q08, then they will be total Blu start of 2Q08. That is plenty of time to re-tool.

Cheers

jkwest · 12-12-2007, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

All that is is they renamed HDi to Advanced Interactivity.

Anyone who wants to use HDi has to join the consortium.

MAX!!! WHere ya been buddy?!

Care to share any insight on this weeks festivities?

Maximus · 12-12-2007, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkwest

MAX!!! WHere ya been buddy?!

Care to share any insight on this weeks festivities?

Busy. University, work. Boring stuff really.

darkpoet25 · 12-12-2007, 08:15 PM

Didn't anyone learn from the last time there was a rumor Warner was going Blu exclusive? I doubt this will happen anytime soon, much less at all. It all boils down to money, and releasing on both means more money to Warner. Until I see this for myself, I don't believe it. I didn't last time either when the 'insider' said that Warner was going Blu exclusive.

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12-12-2007, 05:30 PM	#21
jason_grumpy Senior Member Member since:Apr 2007 Blu-ray reviews: 4	Only smoke? I'd say it's closer to this...

12-12-2007, 05:47 PM	#23
roachxp Member Member since:Nov 2007 Blu-ray collection:89	WB can't jump over to Blu right away, they have to buy the Blu replication equipment. Right now WB does all HDDVD in house since they upgraded their DVD equipment to support HDDVD. The Blu replication is currently outsourced to another company.

12-12-2007, 05:49 PM	#25
The Guardian Expert Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Kitchener, ON Blu-ray collection:9 Trading Score:1	I don't think there'd be a whole lot of negotiation... maybe just technological assistance to Toshiba to help them make dual-format players for the next generation? Along the lines of how LG does it most likely. If Warner goes Blu, I expect a bunch of tiny studios would follow (remember all the ones commenting after the Paramount switch that they had been on the verge...)... how long do you think major retailers will keep stocking HD DVD? Certainly they'll start having a very hard time selling any of it!

12-12-2007, 06:01 PM	#28
zipbags Active Member Member since:Nov 2007	Well lets hope he is right.

12-12-2007, 06:18 PM	#29
quexos Banned Member since:May 2007 Location:Brussels, Belgium	Everybody seem to be predicting that Warner will go Blu exlusive these days. Let us hope that Warner do the same prediction, lol

12-12-2007, 07:23 PM	#33
hc666 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Nov 2007 Home Theater Gallery:7 Blu-ray collection:100 Blu-ray reviews: 26	Are Toshiba and MS contracted to each other through this til the death?

12-12-2007, 08:15 PM	#40
darkpoet25 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2007 Location:Indianapolis, IN Home Theater Gallery:45 4K collection:50 Blu-ray collection:297 Blu-ray reviews: 4	Didn't anyone learn from the last time there was a rumor Warner was going Blu exclusive? I doubt this will happen anytime soon, much less at all. It all boils down to money, and releasing on both means more money to Warner. Until I see this for myself, I don't believe it. I didn't last time either when the 'insider' said that Warner was going Blu exclusive.

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