The Hobbit Trilogy Discussion Thread

[kdo]

Originally Posted by mjbethancourt

There's no problem at all. It just looked to me like you guys had gotten off on a tangent of debating whether it was the richness of detail and background that made his writing great, and I chose to comment that the strength of his writing goes far beyond something so mechanical.

Fair enough, and I respect your opinion...

If it's not for you, then the "reasons why" are really none of my business, rock on in your own way.

[mjbethancourt]

Originally Posted by kdo

Fair enough, and I respect your opinion...

BTW I actually agree with you about Tolkien running out of steam halfway through 'Return of the King'. It's a problematic book, on its own it's trouble, one has to keep in mind that it is actually part of a bigger whole in order to forgive how much it wanders at the end.

[radagast]

Originally Posted by threefiftyrocket

OOOOhhhhhh... I getcha, and I TOTALLY agree...

He did originally say they weren't friends. Inserting "just" would have cleared it up. They did become friends through the quest, even though they didn't start out that way.

[kdo]

Originally Posted by mjbethancourt

'Return of the King'. It's a problematic book, on its own it's trouble, one has to keep in mind that it is actually part of a bigger whole in order to forgive how much it wanders at the end.

True. I agree.

[Duffy12]

Originally Posted by radagast

He did originally say they weren't friends. Inserting "just" would have cleared it up. They did become friends through the quest, even though they didn't start out that way.

Ahhhhhh...that make sense now, as I was somewhat confused also.

[Darkhawk9587]

Sorry for a dumb question, but will this be split into two films? Or, are they still going ahead with The Hobbit and then something that takes place between that and LotR?

[kdo]

Originally Posted by Darkhawk9587

Sorry for a dumb question, but will this be split into two films? Or, are they still going ahead with The Hobbit and then something that takes place between that and LotR?

It will be split into two films. As to whether or not they will title them differently, I don't rightly have any idea. It does sound as though there's a good chance other material from Tolkien's writings (not just that of "the Hobbit") will be included in the films.

[Darkhawk9587]

Originally Posted by kdo

It will be split into two films. As to whether or not they will title them differently, I don't rightly have any idea. It does sound as though there's a good chance other material from Tolkien's writings (not just that of "the Hobbit") will be included in the films.

Makes sense. Thanks for the info.

[AintNoSin]

Originally Posted by Gandalf Stormcrow

This better come out in 2D in my area, not really a movie I want to be skipping due to my hatred of 3D!

Don't hate on 3D. Hate on 2D movies stupidly "upgraded" to 3D.

[kdo]

Originally Posted by Darkhawk9587

Makes sense. Thanks for the info.

No problem, though I can't really take any credit, as I simply reiterated information presented on the thread by other members. So, it's really thanks to them!

Originally Posted by AintNoSin

Don't hate on 3D. Hate on 2D movies stupidly "upgraded" to 3D.

I don't hate 3D, but I really don't want that to be the only option for seeing "The Hobbit" either. I too would prefer a 2D presentation, since feature length 3-D would most likely give me nausea/motion sickness.

[detective392]

Cate Blanchett has officially joined the cast of The Hobbit.

http://movies.yahoo.com/news/movies....hobbit-reuters

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by detective392

Cate Blanchett has officially joined the cast of The Hobbit.

http://movies.yahoo.com/news/movies....hobbit-reuters

Guess that means we will see more of the older Elves in this one than I thought we would, then.

[Grand Bob]

Originally Posted by Gandalf Stormcrow

Guess that means we will see more of the older Elves in this one than I thought we would, then.

That means the White Council is a definite inclusion in the movie. In addition to Gandalf, Saruman, and Celeborn, we may get to see some heavy-hitters that were excluded from LotR, possibly including Erestor, Cirdan, Radagast, Glorfindel - and Thranduil, who will figure prominently regardless.

[Duffy12]

onering.net-


Deadline.com: Orlando to reprise Legolas in ‘Hobbit’


December 8th, 2010 by Calisuri

Orlando Bloom Deadline.com is reporting that Orlando Bloom is expected to reprise his role as Legolas Greenleaf in the upcoming ‘Hobbit’ films. You may ask, how can this be? Well, quite simply, the character of Legolas was very much alive during the timeframe of The Hobbit. In fact, he was probably several thousand years old at the time of The Lord of the Rings! Since Legolas is the son of Thranduil (The Elvenking), a major player in ‘The Hobbit,’ one can easily see Peter, Phillipa, and Fran writing him into the script.

*MINOR SPOILERS* Not only would he appear in Mirkwood with the other wood-elves, he could very well lead the wood-elf contingent into the Battle of Five Armies! Deadline also mentions the negotiations for Ian McKellen, Hugo Weaving and Andy Serkis are still ongoing.

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"After New Line Cinema announced Cate Blanchett's return to Middle Earth for 'The Hobbit,' I'm told that Orlando Bloom will likely be the next original cast member set for an encore. He's near a deal to return as Elven archer Legolas. And it's for more than a cameo, I'm told. I'd have expected them to first set Ian McKellen (Gandalf), Andy Serkis (Gollum) or Hugo Weaving (Elrond), whose characters figured in the book. But those talks have been arduous and aren't completed yet."


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You know, that 'Battle of the Five Armies' bit would not surprise me in the least.



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[Walts Ghost]

Originally Posted by Duffy12

onering.net-


Deadline.com: Orlando to reprise Legolas in ‘Hobbit’


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You know, the more I hear about this the more excited I'm becoming for it. And I love the idea of having events that help lead The Hobbit into Lord of the Rings because it gives them a really strong and cool continuity. It really will feel like one epic series. I wish it was coming out sooner Wonder if we'll see Strider...?

[Josh]

A lot of casting moves in the past week. I really hope they can get the rest of the returning cast signed up before the end of the year. Continuity is important to this series.

[radagast]

Given Jackson's penchant for re-writing Tolkien's story lines, he might as well have giant storks going after Bilbo:

In the "Lord of the Rings" books, hobbits were rescued by giant eagles, but real-life hobbits might have been hunted by giant storks, scientists find.

The fossil remains of what may have been a hobbit-like species of human were discovered in 2003 at the Liang Bua cave on the Indonesian island of Flores. In that cave, scientists also unearthed a large number of bird fossils — including 20,000- to 50,000-year-old wing and leg bones from what appears to have been a stork nearly 6 feet tall (1.8 meters).

"From the size of its bones, we initially were expecting a giant raptor, which are commonly found on islands, not a stork," said Hanneke Meijer, a vertebrate paleontologist at the Smithsonian Institution in Washington.

The carnivorous giant (Leptoptilos robustus) was a hitherto unknown species of marabou stork, among the largest birds alive on the planet.

Meijer and her colleague, Rokus Awe Due, detailed their findings online Nov. 24 in the Zoological Journal of the Linnaean Society.

Flores lacked any large-bodied mammalian predators — no hyenas, lions, wolves or dogs — so we think, in their absence, birds like storks moved in to fill that role," Meijer told LiveScience. It was likely a ground-bound hunter, as its bones were thick, giving the bird an estimated weight of 35 pounds (16 kilograms).

The extinct predator could have fed on fishes, lizards and birds, "and possibly in principle even small, juvenile hobbits, although we have no evidence for that," she said. "These birds are opportunistic carnivores — if you give them plenty of prey items, they'll hunt all of them."

There are no signs yet of whether hobbits returned the favor by hunting these birds. "No cut marks are seen on any of its bones," Meijer said.

Flores was home to a wide variety of dwarf and giant species, a common occurrence on islands. Among Flores' inhabitants were the pygmy elephant Stegodon and the Komodo dragon, the world's largest living lizard. Many of the prehistoric animals there went extinct about 17,000 years ago, coinciding with a volcanic eruption that might have taken place on the Indonesian island of Bali, as well as shifts to a wetter climate and the arrival of modern humans.

"We're not certain as yet precisely why they all went extinct," Meijer said.
Meijer and her colleagues now plan to investigate all of the bird fossils in the cave to figure out when species arrived or evolved and when they went extinct. "This could give us a better idea of what evolutionary forces are at work there, not only on birds, but also hobbits," she said.

It remains uncertain why the cave housed so many bird fossils. "We hope a detailed study of all the layers of bones there could help explain why all these animals ended up there," Meijer said.

As for the realm of fantasy, "stories like 'Lord of the Rings' do add a nice fantasy touch to my work," Meijer said. "I have looked into legends of Indonesia to see if there were any stories of giant birds and didn't find any."

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[drichter33]

Originally Posted by Agent Bond

I've always enjoyed The Hobbit more than Lord of The Rings. I just wish it would've came out first so we wouldn't have to wait a decade.

With that said,

[Show spoiler]Smaug and The Battle of The Five Armies will be f'n amazing to see!!!!

Well, I am excited to see this movie as well and I agree that the Hobbitt movie is an easier read. I am not excited to see the part in the forrest with the spiders in 3-D as I am a severe arachnophobe.
So is PJ, as he discussed during filming Shelob. I wonder how he is gonna be able to handle this part as it is more elaborate.

I guess similar to HP and Chamber of Secrets. Which I still cant watch that part. I still have heebie-jeebies from playing that part in the video game.

[Grand Bob]

Originally Posted by pj_campbell

Wonder if we'll see Strider...?

It is difficult to judge what Jackson is going to do with the two films, but it is possible that Aragorn could be included, as he was 10 years old at the time of the events of "The Hobbit". Of course, in the book he is not mentioned, but he was living at Rivendell and already Chieftain of the Dunedain of Arnor when Bilbo and the dwarves stopped by - so along with everything else in this production, I imagine anything is possible.

[radagast]

Originally Posted by Grand Bob

It is difficult to judge what Jackson is going to do with the two films, but it is possible that Aragorn could be included, as he was 10 years old at the time of the events of "The Hobbit". Of course, in the book he is not mentioned, but he was living at Rivendell and already Chieftain of the Dunedain of Arnor when Bilbo and the dwarves stopped by - so along with everything else in this production, I imagine anything is possible.

Wasn't Arwen in Lorien at that time?