Battlefield 3

[Suntory_Times]

Originally Posted by Mavrick

Dont get your hopes up on that one;

Yeah, for cod to create a new engine they would have to actually do some work and not just another paint job, and despite the huge amounts of money they are making out of it they aren't about to spend some on actually making a good game. gggrrrr

[ratandjmt]

A little information about the graphic difference between systems. With a little punch at the 360
http://www.nowgamer.com/news/5260/ba...od-on-consoles

DICE Art Director Gustav Tilleby has said that upcoming military shooter Battlefield 3 will have ground-breaking visuals on consoles as well as PC
Battlefield 3 was detailed to the developer community - and the press - at EA's GDC event yesterday.
Tilleby told X360 magazine that DICE's Frostbite 2.0 engine which powers the game is “a step beyond our competitors, and it allows us to do more”.
"The game will look very good, even on 360”


And while the stunning looking Battlefield 3 trailers doing the rounds are clearly rendered on high-end gaming PCs, consoles won't look that different. “The positive thing is that the new rendering technique allows us to do more complex calculations at no extra cost," added Tilleby. "That’s the magic. The game will look very good, even on 360.”
“We knew that people would think that this demo was running on PC, but the good thing is that it’s all based on streaming,” added executive producer Patrick Bach. "I can promise you that the console versions will still look amazing because of the core technology. If you have a 360, we want to use that machine to the maximum.”
Look out for much more Battlefield 3 coverage later this week on NowGamer.

[Toptube]

Originally Posted by ratandjmt

A little information about the graphic difference between systems. With a little punch at the 360

I know its fun to be fanboys around here but that wasn't a jab at the 360 and especially wasn't a jab at the 360 VS a PS3.

He was just saying that yes, obviously, PC and console versions will look different, but not as different as you might think.




we'll see I guess. I'm more interested to hear about how the heck they are going to make 24 players work well on 64 player maps without halving the playable area.

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by Toptube

we'll see I guess. I'm more interested to hear about how the heck they are going to make 24 players work well on 64 player maps without halving the playable area.

Yep and how tight the gameplay will be (not to mention bug free) MoH was a mess.

I'm far more concerned with giving the Battlefield name a bad rep than what the graphics look like.

[Euribo]

I would not put any stock into DICE's Medal of Honor effort. This is a brand new engine, and Battlefield is DICE's baby. I also heard awhile back that they were working on a few other projects, but either delayed or canceled them and put there entire team onto the Battlefield 3 project, to make it not just good, but great. I don't feel like researching this, so if anybody has some clarity on this, please chime in.

[ratandjmt]

Originally Posted by Toptube

we'll see I guess. I'm more interested to hear about how the heck they are going to make 24 players work well on 64 player maps without halving the playable area.

This is the one thing I am worried about myself. I would hate to know that the 1st 2-3 minutes of a capture the flag match you don't see an enemy because you haven't meet at the middle objective yet.

I know that's a bit of a stretch but I am sure everyone gets the point of what I am saying.

[Toptube]

Originally Posted by lbloodojunkieg

I would not put any stock into DICE's Medal of Honor effort. This is a brand new engine, and Battlefield is DICE's baby. I also heard awhile back that they were working on a few other projects, but either delayed or canceled them and put there entire team onto the Battlefield 3 project, to make it not just good, but great. I don't feel like researching this, so if anybody has some clarity on this, please chime in.

yeah they canceled BC2's extra mode for PC, some sort of add-on for 1943, and don't plan anymore major additions to BC2 in general.

I think the MoH MP was probably a favor to EA.

[DonRSD]

i have a regular dell laptop with 8gb of ram, 320gb hdd, i dont know the inside specs off the top of my head.
will BF3 look better on my laptop than a ps3?

im starting to wonder if i should shift to pc gaming (using a controller of course), but im NOT buying a new pc or upgrading anything.....if thats the case ill stick to my ps3.

[Suntory_Times]

Originally Posted by DonRSD

i have a regular dell laptop with 8gb of ram, 320gb hdd, i dont know the inside specs off the top of my head.
will BF3 look better on my laptop than a ps3?

im starting to wonder if i should shift to pc gaming (using a controller of course), but im NOT buying a new pc or upgrading anything.....if thats the case ill stick to my ps3.

System requirements have not been realesed for battlefield 3 yet, nor would we be ale to comment even if they had with the info you provided. We also don't know how well the game will scale etc.

[Toptube]

Originally Posted by DonRSD

i have a regular dell laptop with 8gb of ram, 320gb hdd, i dont know the inside specs off the top of my head.
will BF3 look better on my laptop than a ps3?

im starting to wonder if i should shift to pc gaming (using a controller of course), but im NOT buying a new pc or upgrading anything.....if thats the case ill stick to my ps3.

well you have plenty of ram. What's your videocard and what's your processor?


At this point, its impossible to tell for sure what type of system is going to run BF3 pretty well at a common PC resolution. But we can make educated guesses. One fun thing to do is connect your PC to an HDTV and run everything in 720p. Then you get a resolution as good as the consoles-----but all of the major improvements in lighting and shader effects, as well as some Anti-Aliasing. My videocard is a couple of years old (ATI 3870) but still runs games well (especially console ports) with most settings high or cranked at 720p.

*So, at least since BF2, Dice is known for making graphics engines that run well on PCs. Also taking into account that this game will scale down to perform acceptably on consoles and DICE says they have a rendering technique that sidesteps some of the traditional performance requirements: I'd say that an ATI 38** series/Geforce 8 series or newer will get you a decent boost in quality over the console versions. Though with those cards, you may not get a huge resolution advantage. But you're probably gonna want a Quad-Core CPU to back it up. BF games run the sound and some other things off of the extra cores. The PC version of BC2 took a noticeable hit on a dual core. Anyone with an existing laptop and a Quad-core or better should be able to drop in a $100 or better videocard and have a great time. Laptops are tricky because they aren't upgradeable.

[sonicboom]

Originally Posted by DonRSD

im starting to wonder if i should shift to pc gaming (using a controller of course), but im NOT buying a new pc or upgrading anything.....if thats the case ill stick to my ps3.

if you were going to shift to pc gaming, why would you stick with a controller? the keyboard and mouse is far more accurate for fps. even if you aren't used to it initially, you'll adjust quickly and wonder why you ever played fps with a controller.

[BlackMamba]

I have a pretty good gaming rig, but for some reason, I just like playing games on my TV with a controller in my hand. I use my PC for games I can't do on consoles like Starcraft 2.

[bone crusher]

I think it's going to be great to have a game that will probably challenge the Call of Duty franchise for supremacy. It will only push Activision to make that franchise better and better as well. Competition is in nearly every case good.

[DonRSD]

Originally Posted by sonicboom

if you were going to shift to pc gaming, why would you stick with a controller? the keyboard and mouse is far more accurate for fps. even if you aren't used to it initially, you'll adjust quickly and wonder why you ever played fps with a controller.

i hate the keyboard.

plus i would hook up my laptop to the tv via hdmi output on my laptop to game.

anyway to check my graphics card and laptop specs?

[Xerios]

Originally Posted by bone crusher

I think it's going to be great to have a game that will probably challenge the Call of Duty franchise for supremacy. It will only push Activision to make that franchise better and better as well. Competition is in nearly every case good.

i just dont see that happening here... CoD is geared towards console players, BF3 is not. while BF3 will certainly wipe the floor with CoD on PC im fairly sure it will not happen on console sales

people were saying KZ3 or BF3 would come close.. i don't know where to find numbers but i can bet KZ3's first week sales didn't beat CoD's pre-order money... plus KZ3 is a ps3 exclusive so i dont know why people thought that

[PrivatePixel]

Originally Posted by DonRSD

i hate the keyboard.

plus i would hook up my laptop to the tv via hdmi output on my laptop to game.

anyway to check my graphics card and laptop specs?

In Windows: Control Panel > System > Hardware > Device Manager

If you need something more comprehensive, I would suggest SIW - System Information for Windows

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by DonRSD

i have a regular dell laptop with 8gb of ram, 320gb hdd, i dont know the inside specs off the top of my head.
will BF3 look better on my laptop than a ps3?

im starting to wonder if i should shift to pc gaming (using a controller of course), but im NOT buying a new pc or upgrading anything.....if thats the case ill stick to my ps3.

chances are ps3... Especially if you paid I'd say under 2000 as most laptops under that price have reduced graphics cards, maybe lower i5/i7 chips...

If this thing is going to be a beefcake on the pc you'd probably need something with alienware type specs to really enjoy it.

[Xerios]

Originally Posted by PrivatePixel

In Windows: Control Panel > System > Hardware > Device Manager

If you need something more comprehensive, I would suggest SIW - System Information for Windows

Hot Keys: Windows Button + R > devmgmt.msc

lol computer engineer hereee

[PrivatePixel]

Originally Posted by Xerios

Hot Keys: Windows Button + R > devmgmt.msc

lol computer engineer hereee

Nothing beats a keyboard shortcut and the ol' cut-and-paste. Of course, you had to type "devmgmt.msc"; I just copied-and-pasted it (Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V)

[Toptube]

Originally Posted by DonRSD

anyway to check my graphics card and laptop specs?

Just type dxdiag into the start menu and click "no" when the dialog box pops up to check for driver signing.

after this you'll get several tabs, the first two are what you want. Tab 1 is all of your general system specs minus the video card. Tab 2 (display) is your videocard.