An all things Apple thread

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Originally Posted by Shadowself

To even imply otherwise tells the world just how little you know about both Microsoft and Apple having virtually no control over what software is shipped for their platforms.

I can't claim a lo for macs, but for MS I could Being a software eng. for last 15 years that is.

Originally Posted by Shadowself

I fail to see how making both the hardware and software (OS) has anything to do with the installed software base.

Perhaps too much of control in one hands. What can I say. Otherwise we have to conclude it happened for no reason whatsoever and was a fluke?

Originally Posted by Shadowself

Apple’s OS does work more reliably because it controls the hardware.

I REALLY don't want to argue about that. For one, second half of your statement is rather vague. At least makes it sound like windows or Linux don't control hardware at all.

Originally Posted by Shadowself

Apple makes the hardware, the OS and some applications. Because of this the combination of Apple hardware, Apple OS and Apple applications is typically more stable than on other systems.

Would be nice to see some conclusive data on that. Because in my personal experience that wasn't really the case. I know this is the most popular Mac myth, and it's been debated for decades. Not really a place on Blu-Ray forum to argue over that.

Originally Posted by Shadowself

Apple does not have to contend with 10s of millions of variations in hardware.

Actually MS doesn't really have to do that either. Individual drivers are responsible for hardware.

Originally Posted by Shadowself

None of it is done through Apple personnel reviewing your code and sanctioning it. I can live with this kind of control.

Like i said it would be unrealistic from Apple or MS to review that amount of code even if they were willing.

Originally Posted by Shadowself

In actuality, I believe the reference was to Apple’s planned control over software for the “iPhone”.

Sortta. Same goes for iPod...

Originally Posted by Shadowself

If you are in ISV and you want to develop and app for the iPhone you will need to get the final version OK’d by Apple before it goes onto any iPhone.

Yeah, Which brings us to the oldest problem in the world, that all the forms of control as usual are promoted, masked and imposed with the best intentions for people, user, whoever... and way too often they end up doing very wrong things. So, pretty much U either play by apple's rules or U can't program for Apple. Yeah, I know it's their product etc, but the same argument can and was used by MS, it's our OS, we put whatever we want in it etc...

Originally Posted by Shadowself

First, having a monopoly and maintaining that monopoly are perfectly legal in the U.S. Period.

Depends on methods you maintain your monopoly with. And as usual it's too temping to go outside of fair business practices. So, I don't think Apple is any different in that regard.

P.S. those quotes about Apple DRM lawsuit shouldn't be to me, I forgot to provide a link, I was quoting an article. But i do agree with it