An all things Apple thread

[Shadowself]

Originally Posted by Zvi

Yeah, Which brings us to the oldest problem in the world, that all the forms of control as usual are promoted, masked and imposed with the best intentions for people, user, whoever... and way too often they end up doing very wrong things. So, pretty much U either play by apple's rules or U can't program for Apple. Yeah, I know it's their product etc, but the same argument can and was used by MS, it's our OS, we put whatever we want in it etc...

First, check the context of what I actually wrote. I’ll wait.

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Now, the context is that Apple only instituted the validation by Apple because of the phone companies (Cingular specifically, but others too). These are not “apple’s [sic] rules”. These are rules Apple agreed to put into place in order to please the phone companies. If MS or anyone else comes out with a phone with a virtually complete desktop OS in the phone – before the iPhone is cracked – you can be sure they will be pushed very, very strongly by the phone companies to “validate” the software on the phone too.

It is analogous to DRM on music and video. Apple didn’t want to put DRM on songs or videos. However, the only way they could get the rights to resell those songs and videos was by putting DRM on them. The same goes for “validating” software on the iPhone.

Originally Posted by Zvi

Depends on methods you maintain your monopoly with. And as usual it's too temping to go outside of fair business practices. So, I don't think Apple is any different in that regard.

True, to some extent, there are limitations on what you an do to maintain that monopoly.

How is Apple no different in that regard? What has Apple done to illegally maintain any monopoly it might have? Apple is clearly different from Microsoft which has been sued by the US Government twice (settled out of court the first time and convicted the second time) and the EU (still not 100% settled) and which is being sued yet again for anti trust practices by another state. Seems Apple is a bit different. Apple and Apple management are certainly no saints (and some can be downright asses at times) but so far there has been a distinct difference in monopolistic practices between Apple and Microsoft. So to say Apple is no different in this regard ignores a great deal of information to the contrary.

Originally Posted by Zvi

P.S. those quotes about Apple DRM lawsuit shouldn't be to me, I forgot to provide a link, I was quoting an article. But i do agree with it

Well then you agree with things that are both factually and logically wrong as I explained before.