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Old 01-03-2008, 07:42 PM   #1
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i have a 50inch Sony projection HDTV that goes up to 1080i, the model number escapes me right now. When I watch a Blu DVD it is not quite what I would hope it would be. I'll be getting a 1080p here pretty soon but my question for now is: Is there settings on the TV or the player that need tweeked to give me a better picture? Maybe I'm just being too picky but I really thought the picture would be more HD quality. My Blu player is the Sony S-300. Thanks for any help.
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On a 1080i (aka 720p) TV, 720p is a better choice. P stands for progressive scan; therefore, every 720 lines of resolution are shown all at one. I stand for interlaced, with this only half of the resolution shown. I have 2 720p (1080i) TVs and 1 1080p TV, and I have realized 720p setting looks much better than 1080i on a 720p (1080i) TV. And I recommend using DVI or HDMI cable.

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use a hdmi cable and use 720p
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what movies have you used for reference? What settings is your sony tv pic set to, Dynamic or standard or custom? If its a newer sony projection, a10, e2000 etc adjusting sharpness and contrast and brightness can really change the picture quality.
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use a hdmi cable and use 720p
i use HDMI only and I think I'll change to 720p and see what happens. You are talking about using the BluRay remote to change the setting, right?
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On a 1080i (aka 720p) TV, 720p is a better choice. P stands for progressive scan; therefore, every 720 lines of resolution are shown all at one. I stand for interlaced, with this only half of the resolution shown. I have 2 720p (1080i) TVs and 1 1080p TV, and I have realized 720p setting looks much better than 1080i on a 720p (1080i) TV. And I recommend using DVI or HDMI cable.
I will try that, I forgot that 720p was probably better. And I use HDMI only with my TV/blu ray. Thanks.
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what movies have you used for reference? What settings is your sony tv pic set to, Dynamic or standard or custom? If its a newer sony projection, a10, e2000 etc adjusting sharpness and contrast and brightness can really change the picture quality.
Its almost 3 years old, don't remember what that setting is, what do you recommend? The other could help as well, haven't thought of that. Thanks!
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I will try that, I forgot that 720p was probably better. And I use HDMI only with my TV/blu ray. Thanks.
No problem, I had the same problem with my 720p TVs last year. And someone on this form has helped me out.
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First, have the tv calibrated. I recommend a professional to calibrate the system, but if it is out of your price range, there will be a self calibration Blu-ray disc out soon, it should help (although not nearly as well as a professional can).
Make sure the TV/projector is set to 1080i (if 1080p is not available) or 720p is the interlaced image annoys you (as it does to me).
Make sure the player is set to 1080i as well (or 720p). Remember at that size, 1080p is noticeably better than 720p. If you can get a 1080p tv, that would be best.
Also, for a projector, you need to make sure everything is focused correctly, the angle is correct, and the surface being projected upon has the proper reflective properties (there are screens and paints that can be used).

Is there anything in particular you are noticing that you don't like?
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i have a 50inch Sony projection HDTV that goes up to 1080i, the model number escapes me right now. When I watch a Blu DVD it is not quite what I would hope it would be. I'll be getting a 1080p here pretty soon but my question for now is: Is there settings on the TV or the player that need tweeked to give me a better picture? Maybe I'm just being too picky but I really thought the picture would be more HD quality. My Blu player is the Sony S-300. Thanks for any help.
Wont see much if any difference with 1080I/P. Dont beleive the hype unless you have a 100" screen to watch it on.

Has your set been calibrated? If its a few years old its probably time to change the bulb in it.

Yes tweak the settings on the TV. I have a 50inch Rear Projection with every thing set to 1080I and the picture is Beatiful. I couldnt stand 720P on it. I thought 1080I was better.

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First, have the tv calibrated. I recommend a professional to calibrate the system, but if it is out of your price range, there will be a self calibration Blu-ray disc out soon, it should help (although not nearly as well as a professional can).
Make sure the TV/projector is set to 1080i (if 1080p is not available) or 720p is the interlaced image annoys you (as it does to me).
Make sure the player is set to 1080i as well (or 720p). Remember at that size, 1080p is noticeably better than 720p. If you can get a 1080p tv, that would be best.
Also, for a projector, you need to make sure everything is focused correctly, the angle is correct, and the surface being projected upon has the proper reflective properties (there are screens and paints that can be used).

Is there anything in particular you are noticing that you don't like?
I think he has A rear projection TV not a projector. Thats they way I read it.
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First, have the tv calibrated. I recommend a professional to calibrate the system, but if it is out of your price range, there will be a self calibration Blu-ray disc out soon, it should help (although not nearly as well as a professional can).
Make sure the TV/projector is set to 1080i (if 1080p is not available) or 720p is the interlaced image annoys you (as it does to me).
Make sure the player is set to 1080i as well (or 720p). Remember at that size, 1080p is noticeably better than 720p. If you can get a 1080p tv, that would be best.
Also, for a projector, you need to make sure everything is focused correctly, the angle is correct, and the surface being projected upon has the proper reflective properties (there are screens and paints that can be used).

Is there anything in particular you are noticing that you don't like?
The picture isn't as sharp or HD as I would think it would be. Of course it could be I'm pretty picky but when I watch a sporting event in HD then watch a BD DVD I'm disappointed. I keep telling myself that the sporting event SHOULD look better but I'm not totally sure. I'm not sure of the TV setting (i will be heading home here soon) other than it works great with my cable when I watch HD programming. What on the TV determines settings?
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I think he has A rear projection TV not a projector. Thats they way I read it.
That is correct, rear projection HD Sony, almost 3 years old.
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The picture isn't as sharp or HD as I would think it would be. Of course it could be I'm pretty picky but when I watch a sporting event in HD then watch a BD DVD I'm disappointed. I keep telling myself that the sporting event SHOULD look better but I'm not totally sure. I'm not sure of the TV setting (i will be heading home here soon) other than it works great with my cable when I watch HD programming. What on the TV determines settings?
Are you saying that the pic is ok w/ Blu, but not with live TV ??
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Wont see much if any difference with 1080I/P. Dont beleive the hype unless you have a 100" screen to watch it on.

Has your set been calibrated? If its a few years old its probably time to change the bulb in it.

Yes tweak the settings on the TV. I have a 50inch Rear Projection with every thing set to 1080I and the picture is Beatiful. I couldnt stand 720P on it. I thought 1080I was better.

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i dont know where did u get that but i have 2 TV's one 1080i and the other one 1080p and there is a big diff.
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Wont see much if any difference with 1080I/P. Dont beleive the hype unless you have a 100" screen to watch it on.

Has your set been calibrated? If its a few years old its probably time to change the bulb in it.

Yes tweak the settings on the TV. I have a 50inch Rear Projection with every thing set to 1080I and the picture is Beatiful. I couldnt stand 720P on it. I thought 1080I was better.

Chris
While I don't agree with you on the 1080i/p thing requiring a 100 inch screen, I do agree that on certain TV's, 1080i does look better than 720p. It all depends on the TV itself as to wether 720p or 1080i looks better. As for the 1080i vs 1080p thing, I find that 1080p TV's will also handle 1080i better than a 720p TV will... if that made sense.
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Are you saying that the pic is ok w/ Blu, but not with live TV ??
Saying that the picture on an HD channel on my cable like a sporting event is wonderful but not so much when i watch a blu DVD.
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Wont see much if any difference with 1080I/P. Dont beleive the hype unless you have a 100" screen to watch it on.

Has your set been calibrated? If its a few years old its probably time to change the bulb in it.

Yes tweak the settings on the TV. I have a 50inch Rear Projection with every thing set to 1080I and the picture is Beatiful. I couldnt stand 720P on it. I thought 1080I was better.

Chris
Absolutely you will see a difference - the difference between a 1080i HDTV and 1080p HDTV is over one million pixels!!

Where you won't notice a difference is when you have a 1080p HDTV and you're comparing a 1080p24 source and a 1080i60 source, because if the TV deinterlaces properly then you get back to 1080p24.

However lots of 2005 and 2006 1080p sets failed deinterlacing tests which results in only 540 lines of information being sent to the screen, as it discards all of the odd or even lines.
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Everyone should give this entire article a read.

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volum...07-part-1.html
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While I don't agree with you on the 1080i/p thing requiring a 100 inch screen, I do agree that on certain TV's, 1080i does look better than 720p. It all depends on the TV itself as to wether 720p or 1080i looks better. As for the 1080i vs 1080p thing, I find that 1080p TV's will also handle 1080i better than a 720p TV will... if that made sense.
You also have to remember that hardly any sets actually display a 1080i signal. If you don't have a 1080 line interlaced display, your television takes the 1080i signal and displays it progressively, which is what 720p/1080i televisions do - they are progressive displays with 720 and 768 lines.
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